The gulag archipelago?agent-maroon said:
Cool. Where do they anticipate finding the fresh meat to "train"?
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Ukraine uses a light plane converted into a drone to strike at a key Russian drone factory. This is the classic "poor man's cruise missile" that NORAD has been worrying about for many decades.
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I'd've thought this would have been done a long time ago...
It struck the dormitory next to the factory, injuring 2 people, apparently.
This is, yet, an effective way to divert/stretch air defense assets, agreed.
#Ukraine Air Force attempted to target the factory which manufactures Shahed-136 (Geran-2) one-way attack drones in republic of Tatarstan, #Russia. The one-way attack drone which was used in this attack hit another building located 100m away from the factory. They were so close… pic.twitter.com/E5vwDltydK
— Babak Taghvaee - The Crisis Watch (@BabakTaghvaee1) April 2, 2024
This is, yet, an effective way to divert/stretch air defense assets, agreed.
more please!!74OA said:
Ukraine uses a light plane converted into a drone to strike at a key Russian drone factory. This is the classic "poor man's cruise missile" that NORAD has been worrying about for many decades.
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agent-maroon said:
Cool. Where do they anticipate finding the fresh meat to "train"?
Over the last 10 days, about 16,000 Russians have signed contracts to participate in the SMO - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
— Olga Bazova (@OlgaBazova) April 3, 2024
Since the beginning of this year, more than 100 thousand people have already entered military service under contract in the Armed… https://t.co/fGzTANO6wt pic.twitter.com/PGwIjCvVW7
Enlistments.
Source- https://t.co/tEn60npUuW
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 2, 2024
“If we combine these one million shells, the Czechs' potential purchases, our buying capabilities, and also the British…I dare say that it would be possible to send Ukraine 2-2.5 million shells this year, if the funding were available.
Ukraine is now producing 96x 2S22 Bohdana 155mm SPG a year which would be equal to 5 US Field Artillery Battalions plus 1 battery https://t.co/Na69wJUCDB
— Intelschizo (@Schizointel) April 2, 2024
When this is the second part of her tweet, I'm supposed to believe the first part of it for what reason now?Quote:
Feeble attempts to sow the discord in Russian society have produced the opposite effect on every step of NATO escalation ladder from arming the criminal regime in Kiev to committing atrocious terrorist acts on the territory of the Russian Federation.
Hopefully the Ukrainian ammo production is also increasing.
It is, though not by that much. The Rheinmetall plant should/could open next year. Though domestic production is up I think they will be largely dependent on foreign aid for 155mm shells this year.Waffledynamics said:
Hopefully the Ukrainian ammo production is also increasing.
So Russia added another 100k soldiers this year that willingly joined? Still seems they are getting rid of all of the undesirables, not sure how long they can keep doing this before it starts hurting their economy long term due to lack of work force.
Russia has an annual conscription anyway. Below is is Wikipedia's description:
As of 2021, all male citizens aged 1827 are subject to conscription for 1 year of active duty military service in the armed forces, but the precise number of conscripts for each of the recruitment campaigns, which are usually held twice annually, is prescribed by particular Presidential Decree
As of 2021, all male citizens aged 1827 are subject to conscription for 1 year of active duty military service in the armed forces, but the precise number of conscripts for each of the recruitment campaigns, which are usually held twice annually, is prescribed by particular Presidential Decree
The Fife said:When this is the second part of her tweet, I'm supposed to believe the first part of it for what reason now?Quote:
Feeble attempts to sow the discord in Russian society have produced the opposite effect on every step of NATO escalation ladder from arming the criminal regime in Kiev to committing atrocious terrorist acts on the territory of the Russian Federation.
The Olga Bazova account is literal Russian government propaganda. All of her enlistment numbers are complete and total BS. To use it to refute anything here is laughable.
Which could be interesting long term... what will be the effect of sending a generation of men to their deaths?
After the Terror attack all Muslim immigrants must be put on the front lineagent-maroon said:
Cool. Where do they anticipate finding the fresh meat to "train"?
No really, if I was them, I would keep emptying the prisons
Russia is so massive and backwards I think they can keep playing this game for much longer than our Western minds can fathom.2023NCAggies said:After the Terror attack all Muslim immigrants must be put on the front lineagent-maroon said:
Cool. Where do they anticipate finding the fresh meat to "train"?
No really, if I was them, I would keep emptying the prisons
The long-term consequences are real but I don't think Putin gives two ****s about that.
They are killing and maiming a generation or two of laborers/workers and fathers. This will damage them deeply and permanently. Eastern Russian regions will eventually fracture and separate, and Russia proper won't be able to stop it.
That's the dirty secret in this. If they don't succeed in taking Ukraine they most likely won't have the labor force or raw materials / resources to continue as they are today unless they import them from somewhere else. It's too late to correct the brain drain they experienced the last couple decades.MouthBQ98 said:
They are killing and maiming a generation or two of laborers/workers and fathers. This will damage them deeply and permanently. Eastern Russian regions will eventually fracture and separate, and Russia proper won't be able to stop it.
At some point the question becomes where is the breaking point to have to start throwing the white collar Russians from St. Petersburg and Moscow into the grinder before they take too many laborers and prisoners for their economy to continue?
They are probably still at a net positive based on all the kids they stole from eastern Ukraine to send to eastern Russia.AgLA06 said:That's the dirty secret in this. If they don't succeed in taking Ukraine they most likely won't have the labor force or raw materials / resources to continue as they are today unless they import them from somewhere else. It's too late to correct the brain drain they experienced the last couple decades.MouthBQ98 said:
They are killing and maiming a generation or two of laborers/workers and fathers. This will damage them deeply and permanently. Eastern Russian regions will eventually fracture and separate, and Russia proper won't be able to stop it.
At some point the question becomes where is the breaking point to have to start throwing the white collar Russians from St. Petersburg and Moscow into the grinder before they take too many laborers and prisoners for their economy to continue?
I read some article a few weeks ago that argued that Russia can't afford to win or lose this war. They are royally f-ed no matter what.AgLA06 said:That's the dirty secret in this. If they don't succeed in taking Ukraine they most likely won't have the labor force or raw materials / resources to continue as they are today unless they import them from somewhere else. It's too late to correct the brain drain they experienced the last couple decades.MouthBQ98 said:
They are killing and maiming a generation or two of laborers/workers and fathers. This will damage them deeply and permanently. Eastern Russian regions will eventually fracture and separate, and Russia proper won't be able to stop it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-economy-ukraine-war-moscow-military-spending-inflation-worker-shortage-2024-2#:~:text=Russia's%20economy%20can't%20afford,massive%2C%22%20Renaud%20Foucart%20says.Quote:
Russia's economy can't afford to win or lose the war in Ukraine, one economist says. That's because Russia can't afford the cost of rebuilding and securing Ukraine. The cost of repairing its own nation is already "massive," Renaud Foucart says.
Last I heard they stole 900k-1mm kids and workers from eastern Ukraine. If that is the case they are about even between Russians that are no longer able to work, dead or injured, from war.
I agree it is a conundrum, particularly for their aristocratic types.
RGV ground mechanized assault this month in strategic developments of note;
RGV ground mechanized assault this month in strategic developments of note;
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I broke the story of the first ever mechanized ground robot assault. Now, as promised, the story has been updated:It turns out the Russian project is producing much more of them than I thought:Quote:
The first drone assault attack in history!
In Berdychi, which is now being taken by Russian troops, field testing of a new promising Russian robotic platform took place.
As part of the combat mission, a group of assault drones took part in supporting the assault operations, ensuring the suppression of Ukrainian positions in the village using the installed AGS-17 grenade launcher modules, firing several hundred grenades. During combat use, drones showed good results. The drones were able to continue operating even in conditions where losses of personnel and expensive equipment from enemy fire would have been inevitable.
The experience gained in combat use will be taken into account for further production and development of the assault robotic platforms. The combat use of such drones in Berdychi is actually similar to the first tank attack during the First World War.
A successful tracked base has great potential for developing a robotic platform for assault with installation of various combat modules and support operations like transportation and installation of mines, evacuation of wounded, transportation of cargo and equipment.
In the future, such platforms will take their place on the battlefield. Despite the fact that there are similar developments in the USA, Britain and China, it was Russia that was the first to use a group of assault drones in a real war.
The future has already arrived.
We can officially state that the age of ground robot combat has now begun, with Russia inaugurating it with this historic first foray. Unfortunately, it's clear to see the type of madness the near future will hold, as Ukrainian FPVs were able to waylay the robotic UGVs just as readily as they do sluggish foot soldiers:
While the results remain inconclusive, it's clear that ground combat will steadily transition to UGV augmented assaults either way. The big concern, as always, is that things will devolve into another set of WWI-like positional stalemates, just this time with robots.
here ya go, from the aforementioned updates74OA said:
Zelensky lowers conscription age and other notes from the front.
UPDATES
"The Russian Defense Ministry has said that more than 100,000 people have enlisted to join the Russian military forces since the beginning of the year.
It said that some 16,000 had signed up in the past 10 days, citing the deadly attack on a concert hall in Moscow last month as the reason. Russia has blamed Ukraine for the attack which was claimed by so-called Islamic State".
Reduced conscription age from 27 to 25. They can't be hurting that much if they aren't even in the teens yet.74OA said:
Zelensky lowers conscription age and other notes from the front.
UPDATES
I have an uncle who served in WWII at age 14.
Again, I wouldn't blindly accept anything the Kremlin says. Russia recently called up a large class of annual conscripts, but that's hardly voluntary enlistment.sclaff said:here ya go, from the aforementioned updates74OA said:
Zelensky lowers conscription age and other notes from the front.
UPDATES
"The Russian Defense Ministry has said that more than 100,000 people have enlisted to join the Russian military forces since the beginning of the year.
It said that some 16,000 had signed up in the past 10 days, citing the deadly attack on a concert hall in Moscow last month as the reason. Russia has blamed Ukraine for the attack which was claimed by so-called Islamic State".
Teslag said:[Instead of broadly claiming that a source is probably wrong, put the effort into demonstrating that specific elements are incorrect, or don't post such an accusatory rebuttal -- Staff]nortex97 said:
I agree it is a conundrum, particularly for their aristocratic types.
RGV ground mechanized assault this month in strategic developments of note;Quote:
I broke the story of the first ever mechanized ground robot assault. Now, as promised, the story has been updated:It turns out the Russian project is producing much more of them than I thought:Quote:
The first drone assault attack in history!
In Berdychi, which is now being taken by Russian troops, field testing of a new promising Russian robotic platform took place.
As part of the combat mission, a group of assault drones took part in supporting the assault operations, ensuring the suppression of Ukrainian positions in the village using the installed AGS-17 grenade launcher modules, firing several hundred grenades. During combat use, drones showed good results. The drones were able to continue operating even in conditions where losses of personnel and expensive equipment from enemy fire would have been inevitable.
The experience gained in combat use will be taken into account for further production and development of the assault robotic platforms. The combat use of such drones in Berdychi is actually similar to the first tank attack during the First World War.
A successful tracked base has great potential for developing a robotic platform for assault with installation of various combat modules and support operations like transportation and installation of mines, evacuation of wounded, transportation of cargo and equipment.
In the future, such platforms will take their place on the battlefield. Despite the fact that there are similar developments in the USA, Britain and China, it was Russia that was the first to use a group of assault drones in a real war.
The future has already arrived.
We can officially state that the age of ground robot combat has now begun, with Russia inaugurating it with this historic first foray. Unfortunately, it's clear to see the type of madness the near future will hold, as Ukrainian FPVs were able to waylay the robotic UGVs just as readily as they do sluggish foot soldiers:
While the results remain inconclusive, it's clear that ground combat will steadily transition to UGV augmented assaults either way. The big concern, as always, is that things will devolve into another set of WWI-like positional stalemates, just this time with robots.
My mistake. I guess we have two threads now for unchecked Russian government propaganda.
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Munson is laughing at 16,0000 that joined.... if like you said, they really did
That Russia would see an increase in volunteers after blaming the attack on Ukraine is entirely predictable and is a prime reason to believe that there is no way Ukraine or the US would be involved in paying for or organizing such an attack. I don't believe their numbers, but I absolutely believe they saw an uptick in the number of volunteers.sclaff said:here ya go, from the aforementioned updates74OA said:
Zelensky lowers conscription age and other notes from the front.
UPDATES
"The Russian Defense Ministry has said that more than 100,000 people have enlisted to join the Russian military forces since the beginning of the year.
It said that some 16,000 had signed up in the past 10 days, citing the deadly attack on a concert hall in Moscow last month as the reason. Russia has blamed Ukraine for the attack which was claimed by so-called Islamic State".
Listened to this podcast the other day: Conned into the Russian army.
Talks about how they are conning people from places in India to sign up for "security" but are being sent to the front lines.
Talks about how they are conning people from places in India to sign up for "security" but are being sent to the front lines.
Pretty stupid, in my opinion. How have they not lowered it to 18? That could add 1,000,000 troops possiblylb3 said:Reduced conscription age from 27 to 25. They can't be hurting that much if they aren't even in the teens yet.74OA said:
Zelensky lowers conscription age and other notes from the front.
UPDATES
I have an uncle who served in WWII at age 14.
I do not think the younger Ukraine people care to fight
After WW2 our men came home and had a lot of sex and as a result, a lot of kids.MouthBQ98 said:
They are killing and maiming a generation or two of laborers/workers and fathers. This will damage them deeply and permanently. Eastern Russian regions will eventually fracture and separate, and Russia proper won't be able to stop it.
Might happen for Russia after this war
2023NCAggies said:After WW2 our men came home and had a lot of sex and as a result, a lot of kids.MouthBQ98 said:
They are killing and maiming a generation or two of laborers/workers and fathers. This will damage them deeply and permanently. Eastern Russian regions will eventually fracture and separate, and Russia proper won't be able to stop it.
Might happen for Russia after this war
Well, they also had a generation of incredible economic prosperity, too...
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