I would need some new underwear…JFABNRGR said:
I am guessing Zelensky never missed a beat like Patton and the Greek pm hit the dirt screaming.
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Since the invasion, the Kremlin is repressing dissent with a ruthlessness not seen since the days of the USSR.
This is the world Putin would give us all.
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This is the world Putin would give us all.
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Russian troops intensified offensive attempts at Robotyne and Verbove
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/7-march-russian-troops-intensified-offensive-attempts-at#google_vignette
More arty would really help.
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In Kazan, the Higher Command Tank School is on fire
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/7-march-in-kazan-the-higher-command-tank-school-is-on-fire
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Security Service of Ukraine detained a woman in Odesa, spying on behalf of Russian Federation, revealing air defense positions
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/7-march-security-service-of-ukraine-detained-a-woman-in-odesa
endless supply of meat for the grinderWaffledynamics said:Quote:
Russian troops intensified offensive attempts at Robotyne and Verbove
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/7-march-russian-troops-intensified-offensive-attempts-at#google_vignette
More arty would really help.
2wealfth Man said:endless supply of meat for the grinderWaffledynamics said:Quote:
Russian troops intensified offensive attempts at Robotyne and Verbove
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/7-march-russian-troops-intensified-offensive-attempts-at#google_vignette
More arty would really help.
That only works until it doesn't.
Congratulations to Sweden for officially joining NATO. https://t.co/c2FiTSC7uq pic.twitter.com/ZFvMixuLhB
— FJ (@Natsecjeff) March 7, 2024
At this point, Russia's existential threat is peace.74OA said:
Since the invasion, the Kremlin is repressing dissent with a ruthlessness not seen since the days of the USSR.
Waffledynamics said:Quote:
Security Service of Ukraine detained a woman in Odesa, spying on behalf of Russian Federation, revealing air defense positions
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/7-march-security-service-of-ukraine-detained-a-woman-in-odesa
She should be dragged in the street and shot.
I prefer a proper trial and punishment by the law. Somebody has to at least try to do things justly. If guilty, then she gets what is coming.
Agreed.
Arrest. Try. Drag. Shoot.
Arrest. Try. Drag. Shoot.
Welp, look like there is now confirmed (IMhumbleO) Russian T-55/54 tanks in Ukraine. Not the first, but the first I have seen LEADING actual attacks.
Not sure if this link will work but here is video of it happening.
https://funker530.com/video/russian-attack-fails-confusion-reigns/
Saw a picture of one burned out and thought, alright. Probably one used as an impromptu SPG gun and picked off behind the lines somewhere. Still horribly deficient in that role but hey, a gun is a gun I guess. Then saw the video of it actually making up the spearhead of an assault…
I don't think much needs be said about the state of the Russian ground forces if tanks about five generations and countless iterations old, are being used on the frontlines in actual direct maneuver warfare.
I tentatively identified myself after the picture claimed it to be a -55/54. Driver hatch to the left of the gun, meaning -62 or previous and fume extractor at the tip of the barrel. Meaning -55/54. Third major identifier is the wheels but can't see them. I'm satisfied with the other two though until proven otherwise.
Can you imagine fighting and possibly dying in a tank that your grandfather fought in? And not just the model, the ACTUAL tank itself?
This is why the "sustainment" debate is so contentious. You have numbers on paper warring with what we are seeing on the battlefield. I don't think even Russia would have these relics in direct combat unless they felt they had to/no other choice. We would not be seeing this unless there was a serious and even crippling vehicle crunch in Russia.
ETA: Included a still of it.
Not sure if this link will work but here is video of it happening.
https://funker530.com/video/russian-attack-fails-confusion-reigns/
Saw a picture of one burned out and thought, alright. Probably one used as an impromptu SPG gun and picked off behind the lines somewhere. Still horribly deficient in that role but hey, a gun is a gun I guess. Then saw the video of it actually making up the spearhead of an assault…
I don't think much needs be said about the state of the Russian ground forces if tanks about five generations and countless iterations old, are being used on the frontlines in actual direct maneuver warfare.
I tentatively identified myself after the picture claimed it to be a -55/54. Driver hatch to the left of the gun, meaning -62 or previous and fume extractor at the tip of the barrel. Meaning -55/54. Third major identifier is the wheels but can't see them. I'm satisfied with the other two though until proven otherwise.
Can you imagine fighting and possibly dying in a tank that your grandfather fought in? And not just the model, the ACTUAL tank itself?
This is why the "sustainment" debate is so contentious. You have numbers on paper warring with what we are seeing on the battlefield. I don't think even Russia would have these relics in direct combat unless they felt they had to/no other choice. We would not be seeing this unless there was a serious and even crippling vehicle crunch in Russia.
ETA: Included a still of it.
I read another source (maybe from earlier in this thread, can't remember), that was saying the Russian claim of 100 MBTs per month being produced included "refurbishment" of older models. So if they wire a cope cage on top of a T-62 or a T-55 and send it to the front, it counts as 1 of the 100 they are "producing" that month. Should put that whole statistic in a new light for anybody who was foolish enough to believe it in the first place.Eliminatus said:
Welp, look like there is now confirmed (IMhumbleO) Russian T-55/54 tanks in Ukraine. Not the first, but the first I have seen LEADING actual attacks.
Not sure if this link will work but here is video of it happening.
https://funker530.com/video/russian-attack-fails-confusion-reigns/
Saw a picture of one burned out and thought, alright. Probably one used as an impromptu SPG gun and picked off behind the lines somewhere. Still horribly deficient in that role but hey, a gun is a gun I guess. Then saw the video of it actually making up the spearhead of an assault…
I don't think much needs be said about the state of the Russian ground forces if tanks about five generations and countless iterations old, are being used on the frontlines in actual direct maneuver warfare.
I tentatively identified myself after the picture claimed it to be a -55/54. Driver hatch to the left of the gun, meaning -62 or previous and fume extractor at the tip of the barrel. Meaning -55/54. Third major identifier is the wheels but can't see them. I'm satisfied with the other two though until proven otherwise.
Can you imagine fighting and possibly dying in a tank that your grandfather fought in? And not just the model, the ACTUAL tank itself?
This is why the "sustainment" debate is so contentious. You have numbers on paper warring with what we are seeing on the battlefield. I don't think even Russia would have these relics in direct combat unless they felt they had to/no other choice. We would not be seeing this unless there was a serious and even crippling vehicle crunch in Russia.
Weird that the Russians are having to use old rust buckets when we were assured they were producing 200 T-90's per month.
Teslag said:
Weird that the Russians are having to use old rust buckets when we were assured they were producing 200 T-90's per month.
Remember, they are using the relics to clear out old, paid off equipment and saving the front line pieces for later!
for defending the Russian border with Chinachickencoupe16 said:Teslag said:
Weird that the Russians are having to use old rust buckets when we were assured they were producing 200 T-90's per month.
Remember, they are using the relics to clear out old, paid off equipment and saving the front line pieces for later!
txags92 said:I read another source (maybe from earlier in this thread, can't remember), that was saying the Russian claim of 100 MBTs per month being produced included "refurbishment" of older models. So if they wire a cope cage on top of a T-62 or a T-55 and send it to the front, it counts as 1 of the 100 they are "producing" that month. Should put that whole statistic in a new light for anybody who was foolish enough to believe it in the first place.Eliminatus said:
Welp, look like there is now confirmed (IMhumbleO) Russian T-55/54 tanks in Ukraine. Not the first, but the first I have seen LEADING actual attacks.
Not sure if this link will work but here is video of it happening.
https://funker530.com/video/russian-attack-fails-confusion-reigns/
Saw a picture of one burned out and thought, alright. Probably one used as an impromptu SPG gun and picked off behind the lines somewhere. Still horribly deficient in that role but hey, a gun is a gun I guess. Then saw the video of it actually making up the spearhead of an assault…
I don't think much needs be said about the state of the Russian ground forces if tanks about five generations and countless iterations old, are being used on the frontlines in actual direct maneuver warfare.
I tentatively identified myself after the picture claimed it to be a -55/54. Driver hatch to the left of the gun, meaning -62 or previous and fume extractor at the tip of the barrel. Meaning -55/54. Third major identifier is the wheels but can't see them. I'm satisfied with the other two though until proven otherwise.
Can you imagine fighting and possibly dying in a tank that your grandfather fought in? And not just the model, the ACTUAL tank itself?
This is why the "sustainment" debate is so contentious. You have numbers on paper warring with what we are seeing on the battlefield. I don't think even Russia would have these relics in direct combat unless they felt they had to/no other choice. We would not be seeing this unless there was a serious and even crippling vehicle crunch in Russia.
Think that was my claim. The stuff I had gathered though was it was a mix of T-62s mostly getting upgraded to whatever the best version is these days. In addition to their continued T-72s getting spun up to working state after decades of open air storage. With actual new production on top. So all of those combined came to around that extremely fuzzy figure. A wild ballpark at best from my end.
We have seen a few things here and there about the -55s but this is the first I have seen them in direct combat. And these would absolutely have had to be refitted as well. The one in the pic is covered in ERA so it at least got a partial upgrade package. Which means at least time on a factory floor recently.
Interesting podcast with former green beret Russian specialist. They go in depth about what led up to the war, Russian ineptitude in the beginning, the whole Wagner group fiasco. It's a few weeks old, but I found it definitely worth a listen.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/36NStmTbNmde7v2GhaFa4E?si=A5IbPoa7R-2CSA7JIEicvA&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A6f92KNcL2DXQl9mCSwZxXC
If you don't do Spotify I'm sure it's available wherever you get your podcasts.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/36NStmTbNmde7v2GhaFa4E?si=A5IbPoa7R-2CSA7JIEicvA&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A6f92KNcL2DXQl9mCSwZxXC
If you don't do Spotify I'm sure it's available wherever you get your podcasts.
Tank crews is Russia's real problem right now. You can have hundreds of tanks, but a bad or inexperienced tank crew is just a dead tank rolling.
Company I-1, Ord-Ords '85 -12thFan and Websider-
Russian armor "production" at this point is predominately refurbishment of older generations of vehicles taken from long-term storage. There's very little production of new vehicles. No way Russia sends T-54/62/64s to the front if it is pumping out 1200 new T-72s a year.Eliminatus said:txags92 said:I read another source (maybe from earlier in this thread, can't remember), that was saying the Russian claim of 100 MBTs per month being produced included "refurbishment" of older models. So if they wire a cope cage on top of a T-62 or a T-55 and send it to the front, it counts as 1 of the 100 they are "producing" that month. Should put that whole statistic in a new light for anybody who was foolish enough to believe it in the first place.Eliminatus said:
Welp, look like there is now confirmed (IMhumbleO) Russian T-55/54 tanks in Ukraine. Not the first, but the first I have seen LEADING actual attacks.
Not sure if this link will work but here is video of it happening.
https://funker530.com/video/russian-attack-fails-confusion-reigns/
Saw a picture of one burned out and thought, alright. Probably one used as an impromptu SPG gun and picked off behind the lines somewhere. Still horribly deficient in that role but hey, a gun is a gun I guess. Then saw the video of it actually making up the spearhead of an assault…
I don't think much needs be said about the state of the Russian ground forces if tanks about five generations and countless iterations old, are being used on the frontlines in actual direct maneuver warfare.
I tentatively identified myself after the picture claimed it to be a -55/54. Driver hatch to the left of the gun, meaning -62 or previous and fume extractor at the tip of the barrel. Meaning -55/54. Third major identifier is the wheels but can't see them. I'm satisfied with the other two though until proven otherwise.
Can you imagine fighting and possibly dying in a tank that your grandfather fought in? And not just the model, the ACTUAL tank itself?
This is why the "sustainment" debate is so contentious. You have numbers on paper warring with what we are seeing on the battlefield. I don't think even Russia would have these relics in direct combat unless they felt they had to/no other choice. We would not be seeing this unless there was a serious and even crippling vehicle crunch in Russia.
Think that was my claim. The stuff I had gathered though was it was a mix of T-62s mostly getting upgraded to whatever the best version is these days. In addition to their continued T-72s getting spun up to working state after decades of open air storage. With actual new production on top. So all of those combined came to around that extremely fuzzy figure. A wild ballpark at best from my end.
We have seen a few things here and there about the -55s but this is the first I have seen them in direct combat. And these would absolutely have had to be refitted as well. The one in the pic is covered in ERA so it at least got a partial upgrade package. Which means at least time on a factory floor recently.
They have had some losses of these old tanks but a few of those were remote controlled "bombs" or more or less stationary defense units in less active areas that were found and killed with a drone or artillery. Using them on the attack isn't unreasonable given they aren't going up against opposing armor, and are being used in infantry support roles, provided they last that long.
Russia is also using decades old MTLB armored "tractors" and BTR and BRDM armored cars from the 50's and 60's, and Chinese "golf cart" UTV's for front line attack and transport. They really are running low on kit and the quality of their forces will keep degrading. At some point, they'll be stuck with infantry attacking on foot without any real armored transport or support.
Russia is also using decades old MTLB armored "tractors" and BTR and BRDM armored cars from the 50's and 60's, and Chinese "golf cart" UTV's for front line attack and transport. They really are running low on kit and the quality of their forces will keep degrading. At some point, they'll be stuck with infantry attacking on foot without any real armored transport or support.
MouthBQ98 said:
They have had some losses of these old tanks but a few of those were remote controlled "bombs" or more or less stationary defense units in less active areas that were found and killed with a drone or artillery. Using them on the attack isn't unreasonable given they aren't going up against opposing armor, and are being used in infantry support roles, provided they last that long.
Russia is also using decades old MTLB armored "tractors" and BTR and BRDM armored cars from the 50's and 60's, and Chinese "golf cart" UTV's for front line attack and transport. They really are running low on kit and the quality of their forces will keep degrading. At some point, they'll be stuck with infantry attacking on foot without any real armored transport or support.
Their ability to conduct a real offensive is becoming dreadfully apparent at the moment.
What kind of reaction would have happened if the Russians had ended up hitting and killing Zelensky AND the Greek PM.Waffledynamics said:
Surprised this wasn't posted yet. Russia attacked Odessa and a missile hit within a couple hundred meters of Zelensky and the Greek PM.🚨BREAKING: Footage of powerful explosion in Odessa, where the Prime Minister of Greece was supposed to meet with President Zelensky. pic.twitter.com/hflNQivmPc
— InsidersHut (@InsidersHut) March 6, 2024Russians almost struck both Zelensky and the Prime Minister of Greece in a missile strike in Odessa
— Dylan Burns 🇺🇦🏳️🌈 (@DylanBurns1776) March 6, 2024
The missile impact missed them by roughly 300 meters pic.twitter.com/SVNOiHBVWl
Zelensky is one thing...but Greece is a member of NATO and Russia would have just assassinated its leader. Would Greece feel the need to respond? Would NATO?
General Zaluzhny has himself a new job. Ambassador to to the UK. Actually think this is a very fitting role for him and not just shuffling him off to a basement desk somewhere. He has an International Relations grad degree and has worked hand in hand with the Brits for a long time and there has to be a lot of mutual respect there from both sides I would think. The Brits still need to agree on their end but I would be surprised if they don't ok it.
https://mfa.gov.ua/news/komentar-pressluzhbi-mzs-shchodo-pogodzhennya-prezidentom-ukrayini-kandidaturi-posla-ukrayini-v-spoluchenomu-korolivstvi
https://mfa.gov.ua/news/komentar-pressluzhbi-mzs-shchodo-pogodzhennya-prezidentom-ukrayini-kandidaturi-posla-ukrayini-v-spoluchenomu-korolivstvi
I think that would have been a huge ****show and necessitated NATO retaliation or Russian concessions to avoid retaliation. Probably not ground troops, but definitely debilitating air or missile strikes. I think Russia would kiss a number of airfields and/or naval vessels goodbye.
certain people keep saying this.74OA said:
Sweden officially joins NATO. The Baltic Sea is now a NATO lake.
DONE
is there something that is blocking the Gulf of Finland to Russian ships now?!
considering St. Petersburg is sitting right there not very far from the entrance to the Baltic Sea.
what's the difference between yesterday and today when it comes to Russian access to the Baltic?!
Another 1000 miles of coastline owned by nato?
In peacetime, nothing of course, but in any conflict with NATO, the run between St. Petersburg and Kaliningrad and/or the open sea is far more unsurvivable for the Russian navy than it was previously, and the Baltic state's coastlines are far more secure with Finland and Sweden covering them from amphibious attack.LMCane said:certain people keep saying this.74OA said:
Sweden officially joins NATO. The Baltic Sea is now a NATO lake.
DONE
is there something that is blocking the Gulf of Finland to Russian ships now?!
considering St. Petersburg is sitting right there not very far from the entrance to the Baltic Sea.
what's the difference between yesterday and today when it comes to Russian access to the Baltic?!
LAKE
LMCane said:certain people keep saying this.74OA said:
Sweden officially joins NATO. The Baltic Sea is now a NATO lake.
DONE
is there something that is blocking the Gulf of Finland to Russian ships now?!
considering St. Petersburg is sitting right there not very far from the entrance to the Baltic Sea.
what's the difference between yesterday and today when it comes to Russian access to the Baltic?!
As others have stated, it isolates St. Petersburg and Kaliningrad. Before, Russian ships could hug the Swedish or Finnish coasts to stay in neutral territorial waters, potentially insulating them from attack. Now, not only would they not have friends around, they wouldn't even have acquaintances.
strap some logs to the top of 50 year old APC, New "up" armored APC rolls outta the factorytxags92 said:I read another source (maybe from earlier in this thread, can't remember), that was saying the Russian claim of 100 MBTs per month being produced included "refurbishment" of older models. So if they wire a cope cage on top of a T-62 or a T-55 and send it to the front, it counts as 1 of the 100 they are "producing" that month. Should put that whole statistic in a new light for anybody who was foolish enough to believe it in the first place.Eliminatus said:
Welp, look like there is now confirmed (IMhumbleO) Russian T-55/54 tanks in Ukraine. Not the first, but the first I have seen LEADING actual attacks.
Not sure if this link will work but here is video of it happening.
https://funker530.com/video/russian-attack-fails-confusion-reigns/
Saw a picture of one burned out and thought, alright. Probably one used as an impromptu SPG gun and picked off behind the lines somewhere. Still horribly deficient in that role but hey, a gun is a gun I guess. Then saw the video of it actually making up the spearhead of an assault…
I don't think much needs be said about the state of the Russian ground forces if tanks about five generations and countless iterations old, are being used on the frontlines in actual direct maneuver warfare.
I tentatively identified myself after the picture claimed it to be a -55/54. Driver hatch to the left of the gun, meaning -62 or previous and fume extractor at the tip of the barrel. Meaning -55/54. Third major identifier is the wheels but can't see them. I'm satisfied with the other two though until proven otherwise.
Can you imagine fighting and possibly dying in a tank that your grandfather fought in? And not just the model, the ACTUAL tank itself?
This is why the "sustainment" debate is so contentious. You have numbers on paper warring with what we are seeing on the battlefield. I don't think even Russia would have these relics in direct combat unless they felt they had to/no other choice. We would not be seeing this unless there was a serious and even crippling vehicle crunch in Russia.
Here are losses I could identify today.
— Andrew Perpetua (@AndrewPerpetua) March 8, 2024
I posted before, but there was an error so I repost.https://t.co/lZLivxUud6 pic.twitter.com/3AH0kteweY
"Thereafter, the trafficked Indian nationals were trained in combat roles and deployed at front bases in (the) Russia - Ukraine War Zone against their wishes, thus, putting their lives in grave danger. It has been ascertained that some of the victims also got grievously injured in the war zone."
⚡️India identifies 'major human trafficking network' luring Indians to fight for Russia in Ukraine.
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) March 8, 2024
The news came after multiple media reported that Indian men who came to Russia for work or tourism were then coerced into joining the war against Ukraine. https://t.co/W0RRsip5kf
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