much less somehow promote its recent deploymentagent-maroon said:P.U.T.U said:
Each is estimated to be worth $250,000,000
Normally have to sink a naval vessel to destroy something that expensive. I wonder if the genius that authorized this system's use has fallen out of a window yet?
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AgLA06 said:
Nope. Nothing but a made up excuse to grab people and resources to slow a dying, mismanaged Russia.
Exactly. Much like Hitler did, Putin is just deciding what he wants to control and then making up whatever excuse he needs to justify it. The only reasoning we should listen to is the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians that voted to be independent from Russia in 1991. They are (or were) a free country that does not want to live as a Russian vassal a la Belarus. We should be defending them and standing up for our word that we gave them when they gave up their nukes. What we have done so far is give them just enough to keep them from losing.
"There is no more money to provide military assistance to Ukraine, White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby told reporters Wednesday. "We have given now Ukraine the last security assistance package that we have funds to support right before New Year's, right after Christmas," said Kirby."
Today's SITREP.
Today's SITREP.
74OA said:
"There is no more money to provide military assistance to Ukraine, White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby told reporters Wednesday. "We have given now Ukraine the last security assistance package that we have funds to support right before New Year's, right after Christmas," said Kirby."
Today's SITREP.
there will be another supplemental spending bill in January.
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/4-january-ukrainian-military-intelligence-su34-aircraft-ofQuote:
Ukrainian Military Intelligence: Su-34 aircraft of Russian Air Forces caught fire at Shagol airfield near Chelyabinsk last night
🔥 ГУР підтверджує, що в ніч на 4 січня на російському аеродромі «шаґол», що поблизу Челябінська, згорів тактичний бомбардувальник Су-34.
— ҐРУНТ (@grntmedia) January 4, 2024
Бойовий літак належав до складу авіаційного полку 21-ї змішаної авіадивізії пкс зс рф.
"Причини займання літака уточнюються", - пише ГУР. pic.twitter.com/x0m76SZrgT
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/4-january-wall-street-journal-russia-is-moving-forward-withQuote:
Wall Street Journal: Russia is moving forward with its plans to purchase Iranian ballistic missiles
Explosions reported along the coast in the last few hours, in Skadovsk, Yevpatoriya, and Sevastopol.
Russian MOD claims shootdowns.
Ukraine claims hit.
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/4-january-russian-ministry-of-defense-says-10-missiles-wereQuote:
Russian Ministry of Defense says 10 missiles were shot down over occupied Crimea
Russian MOD claims shootdowns.
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/4-january-ukrainian-military-claims-targeting-russian-commandQuote:
Ukrainian military claims targeting Russian command point in Sevastopol
Ukraine claims hit.
agent-maroon said:P.U.T.U said:
Each is estimated to be worth $250,000,000
Normally have to sink a naval vessel to destroy something that expensive. I wonder if the genius that authorized this system's use has fallen out of a window yet?
Not the first expensive AF radar they've lost. The Ukrainians have destroyed a bunch of surveillance radars and a few tracking/targeting radars for the S300's and S400's. Honestly, the replacement cost of losses for Russia must be staggering.
It is mind boggling why they keep pressing forward. It will take a decade or more of very elevated military spending just to recover from their equipment losses. And they're not that far from half a million dead or wounded beyond the capacity to serve military personnel. They will easily reach that number this year if the trends continue. Their population profile can't sustain those losses long term.
Missile expenditures, too. Putin isn't buying reloads from Iran just because he wants to.ABATTBQ11 said:agent-maroon said:P.U.T.U said:
Each is estimated to be worth $250,000,000
Normally have to sink a naval vessel to destroy something that expensive. I wonder if the genius that authorized this system's use has fallen out of a window yet?
Not the first expensive AF radar they've lost. The Ukrainians have destroyed a bunch of surveillance radars and a few tracking/targeting radars for the S300's and S400's. Honestly, the replacement cost of losses for Russia must be staggering.
Unless they relocated blue collar citizens from Ukraine which they have in larger numbers. Get rid of the unwanteds and replace those with people that can add to the economy.
In a further indicator of Russia's declining ability to restock domestic munitions it now resorts to using North Korean ballistic missiles and other notes.
UPDATES
UPDATES
NW of Bakhmut:
"Russia launched a large attack on Bohdanivka which was then stalled and at least partially reversed by Ukrainian counterattacks. It remains unclear exactly how successful these counterattacks were, and where the current front line is."
"Russia launched a large attack on Bohdanivka which was then stalled and at least partially reversed by Ukrainian counterattacks. It remains unclear exactly how successful these counterattacks were, and where the current front line is."
It's insanity in action and a great reminder that we haven't come that far as a species in the past 80 years.MouthBQ98 said:
It is mind boggling why they keep pressing forward. It will take a decade or more of very elevated military spending just to recover from their equipment losses. And they're not that far from half a million dead or wounded beyond the capacity to serve military personnel. They will easily reach that number this year if the trends continue. Their population profile can't sustain those losses long term.
More on Russia acquiring and using North Korean and Iranian ballistic missiles.
MISSILES
Interesting related note….
MISSILES
Interesting related note….
Every Ukrainian downing of Russian hypersonic Kh-47M2 Kinzhal with the Patriot missiles will improve the Patriot missile intercept algorithm - and increase accuracy for all Patriot systems, a benefit for the US, the rest of NATO, and other Patriot AD users. The same goes for any… pic.twitter.com/u9Pni5Gt1J
— Jan Kallberg, Ph.D. (@Cyberdefensecom) January 3, 2024
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/4-january-several-projectiles-hit-kreyda-district-in-belgorodQuote:
Several projectiles hit Kreyda district in Belgorod
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/4-january-russian-ministry-of-defense-says-10-missiles-were-4726Quote:
Russian Ministry of Defense says 10 missiles were shot down over Belgorod
Their excuses about Ukraine being Nazis and all this other crap is just propaganda bs. Russia is run by paranoid nationalists who have been trained from birth to be paranoid about invasion considering the long Russian history of being invaded. Most of western Russia is just flat ground straight to moscow.
Their ultimate goal at the outset was to secure the eastern side of the Carpathians. Ukraine was in the way. Moldova is the real prize. If they control the Black Sea coast and the eastern Carpathians then they don't have to worry about placing too many defensive resources there because the geography is just not suitable for invasion from the west there.
Then they can move more of their limited defensive resources along the border with Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia. Ideally for them, they would take those three countries to form a land bridge to Kaliningrad and create a much narrower path for opposing forces should they choose to invade across the northern European plain. There's no doubt Putin would have already done so were it not for NATO. That's why they are so pissy about NATO encroaching so close to Russian territory.
Their ultimate goal at the outset was to secure the eastern side of the Carpathians. Ukraine was in the way. Moldova is the real prize. If they control the Black Sea coast and the eastern Carpathians then they don't have to worry about placing too many defensive resources there because the geography is just not suitable for invasion from the west there.
Then they can move more of their limited defensive resources along the border with Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia. Ideally for them, they would take those three countries to form a land bridge to Kaliningrad and create a much narrower path for opposing forces should they choose to invade across the northern European plain. There's no doubt Putin would have already done so were it not for NATO. That's why they are so pissy about NATO encroaching so close to Russian territory.
They're not going to have any military resources if they keep being stupid...Quote:
they don't have to worry about placing too many defensive resources
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They got unexpectedly bogged down. They were expecting to roll.
Rumor russian top general killed in Uke missile strike.
❗russia issues no comment over rumours of Putin's top war commander General Valery Gerasimov has been killed in Ukrainian missile strike on Crimea pic.twitter.com/jSOGedpCYQ
— АЗОВ South (@Azovsouth) January 5, 2024
That would be a pretty big score. Although not sure if it benefits Ukraine since they have been pretty incompetent and there is a possibility someone better could take over.JFABNRGR said:
Rumor russian top general killed in Uke missile strike.❗russia issues no comment over rumours of Putin's top war commander General Valery Gerasimov has been killed in Ukrainian missile strike on Crimea pic.twitter.com/jSOGedpCYQ
— АЗОВ South (@Azovsouth) January 5, 2024
Highly doubt it.
Latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine – 06 January 2024.
— Ministry of Defence 🇬🇧 (@DefenceHQ) January 6, 2024
Find out more about Defence Intelligence's use of language: https://t.co/eHd6Z9ial0 #StandWithUkraine 🇺🇦 pic.twitter.com/R1z1hu9o8v
Ukraine's air defense fights on but needs steady replenishment to continue knocking down Russian drones, missiles and aircraft at its current high rate.
IAD
IAD
Makes me wonder how our own air defenses would cope with this kind of warfare.
It's yet another of many "Thanks, Vlad" lessons-learned and is the motivation behind the Army embarking on a massive expansion and modernization of its IAD systems, combined with multi-year contracts to deepen missile stocks.ABATTBQ11 said:
Makes me wonder how our own air defenses would cope with this kind of warfare.
For example: NEW
ABATTBQ11 said:
Makes me wonder how our own air defenses would cope with this kind of warfare.
Presumably we wouldn't be playing purely defense. Ukraine is in the unenviable position of just soaking up attacks while Russia can launch them largely with impunity
Yep, the best air defense is a preemptive offensive air campaign, and we have the finest air force on the planet.GAC06 said:ABATTBQ11 said:
Makes me wonder how our own air defenses would cope with this kind of warfare.
Presumably we wouldn't be playing purely defense. Ukraine is in the unenviable position of just soaking up attacks while Russia can launch them largely with impunity
Yes this… we wouLd be taking it to their ass so hard they probably wouldn't be firing off missiles but rather running from our missiles. We would pound the F out of their airfields deep inside Russia as well as seek out their marine ships in the Black Sea turning them into new artificial reefs …. This is not even close to what Russia or any country would really see from the west. I, would hate to see what Russian marine short ports would look like? Their ship ports would prob be chopped liver if we take out their air defenses and drop about 20 Daisey cutters on each port …. No comparison really74OA said:Yep, the best air defense is a preemptive offensive air campaign, and we have the finest air force on the planet.GAC06 said:ABATTBQ11 said:
Makes me wonder how our own air defenses would cope with this kind of warfare.
Presumably we wouldn't be playing purely defense. Ukraine is in the unenviable position of just soaking up attacks while Russia can launch them largely with impunity
And yet we've ensured Ukraine can't.
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