***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Yes, the article mentions all that.
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74OA said:

Yes, the article mentions all that.
Aah missed it

Should have just searched the page for the likely candidates.
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Another big mystery that continues to surround the Ukrainian JDAMs is exactly what aircraft platform is launching them. Likely candidates comprise the Ukrainian Air Force's MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker fighters, as well as the limited number of Su-24 Fencers that provide longer-range strike capabilities. An outside possibility is the Su-25 Frogfoot that otherwise mainly employs unguided rockets in the ground-attack role.
Didn't realize they still had Fencers
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deddog said:

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MORE INSANE FOOTAGE from the T just posted last couple hours. 2 tanks supported by 30MM armor.
First couple minutes the 30MM keeps the orcs head down in the trench. They do get one anti tank munition off but it misses 4:00.


Insane, also shows how effective trenches are though.
The T-72 had to come within what 15 yards before blowing them up.
The Ruskies were certainly deaf and possibly disoriented long before that.
That's crazy. Hell of a lot of tank rounds to eliminate one trench with 7-8 orcs in it. Somebody think about using the 12.7mm to do some of the work and saving the tank rounds? I am assuming the dismounts were in the BMP that was behind the tanks?
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JFABNRGR said:

MORE INSANE FOOTAGE from the T just posted last couple hours. 2 tanks supported by 30MM armor.
First couple minutes the 30MM keeps the orcs head down in the trench. They do get one anti tank munition off but it misses 4:00.



Insane is the exact right word. Holy crap.

I now see why combined arms are so important. I'm assuming if they had an IFV, the soldiers could have streamed out and made short work of the shell shocked troops in the trench.
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JB!98 said:

deddog said:

JFABNRGR said:

MORE INSANE FOOTAGE from the T just posted last couple hours. 2 tanks supported by 30MM armor.
First couple minutes the 30MM keeps the orcs head down in the trench. They do get one anti tank munition off but it misses 4:00.


Insane, also shows how effective trenches are though.
The T-72 had to come within what 15 yards before blowing them up.
The Ruskies were certainly deaf and possibly disoriented long before that.
That's crazy. Hell of a lot of tank rounds to eliminate one trench with 7-8 orcs in it. Somebody think about using the 12.7mm to do some of the work and saving the tank rounds? I am assuming the dismounts were in the BMP that was behind the tanks?


Was this the same spot where we saw Ukrainians defending against that infantry assault a few days ago?
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AtlAg05 said:

JB!98 said:

deddog said:

JFABNRGR said:

MORE INSANE FOOTAGE from the T just posted last couple hours. 2 tanks supported by 30MM armor.
First couple minutes the 30MM keeps the orcs head down in the trench. They do get one anti tank munition off but it misses 4:00.


Insane, also shows how effective trenches are though.
The T-72 had to come within what 15 yards before blowing them up.
The Ruskies were certainly deaf and possibly disoriented long before that.
That's crazy. Hell of a lot of tank rounds to eliminate one trench with 7-8 orcs in it. Somebody think about using the 12.7mm to do some of the work and saving the tank rounds? I am assuming the dismounts were in the BMP that was behind the tanks?


Was this the same spot where we saw Ukrainians defending against that infantry assault a few days ago?
Yes, the people who created this say they were pushed back, but reclaimed it
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Slightly longer footage from that sniper video a couple of days ago plus a couple of other shots.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/127i197/wagner_forces_being_eliminated_near_bakhmut_date/
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any reason to believe that these snows help the Russians more than Ukes?

I would think this is excellent news for the defenders as it holds the Russian assaults all along the front, screws up their logistics, and gains day after day for the NATO training cadres to keep working and assembling in the west
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*eye roll*

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I think it helps the attackers. With videos of 30 inches of snow in the trenches it's going to be miserable. You dig out your trench but then can't see over the snow banks. As soon as it thaws, your trench is full of mud.

I would expect soldiers to prefer to be storming a trench than living in one for the next two weeks.
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They did have an IFV BMP2 that provided suppressing fire on the trench to allow the tanks to assault. Seen at beginning and doubt it had any INF aboard because it appears UKes objective was not to occupy T but simply to destroy the enemy at that location.

This is why I think the Bradleys and other western IFVs will be a force multiplier especially if the electronic targeting/mapping of the enemy shows up on all screens of the Uke force.

Given the prolific use of drones battlefield doctrine is changing. I think speed and sustained fire rates of 25/30 MM with ability to shoot 1-2 ATGMs when needed will be better than having tanks. In the future this will change to IFVs having a significant anti drone capability.

Smart countries should be paying attention to what is occurring here. It wont always be about air power (fast mover type).
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Maybe I missed it but I didn't see the tank using its coax machine gun. They should have enough ammo to hose that trench down that whole time
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GAC06 said:

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see the tank using its coax machine gun. They should have enough ammo to hose that trench down that whole time


You did not miss it. The belt fed weapon on top was never fired. I am no longer that familiar w soviet tanks but no small arms fired internally either, only 30mm from BMP off screen. Not sure if capability or a competence issue odd for sure.

One thing is for sure the drone operator had direct coms with the right tank and I bet the left tank had a different recon drone not shown.
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JFABNRGR said:

GAC06 said:

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see the tank using its coax machine gun. They should have enough ammo to hose that trench down that whole time


You did not miss it. The belt fed weapon on top was never fired. I am no longer that familiar w soviet tanks but no small arms fired internally either, only 30mm from BMP off screen. Not sure if capability or a competence issue odd for sure.

One thing is for sure the drone operator had direct coms with the right tank and I bet the left tank had a different recon drone not shown.
Do the T-72s have the ability to fire that machine gun without exposing the commander to return fire? Or does he have to stick his head and torso out the top hatch to fire it?
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Pretty much every tank, including the T-72 has a coaxial machine gun. That's typically a medium machine gun that is mounted in the turret next to the main gun. It does not need a crew member to be exposed to fire it. Most tanks also have a heavy machine gun mounted on top of the turret that may require a crew member to be exposed to operate it.
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Today's SITREP. Bakhmut still holds.
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There it is (again) ... and with that said, specifically what are the "other options" to extend range beyond current capabilities?

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GLSDB and JDAM-ER. Longer range than MLRS/HIMARS, with bigger warhead.
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Why Putin arrested the WSJ reporter in Moscow.

GERSHKOVICH
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Nvm. Is April fool.

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Well, that doesn't look pretty for the Wagner forces in that plant. Not sure that's a Tochka-U. Would Ukraine even have any left?
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Crazy they are using these things against something other than an apartment building.
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74OA said:

GLSDB and JDAM-ER. Longer range than MLRS/HIMARS, with bigger warhead.
Thanks. Was hoping for something not previously announced. GLSDB rollout at scale may be interesting. That said, I still have questions on survivability in contested airspace. e.g. Kursk Bridge.

Ukraine War Delayed Taiwan's 150-Kilometer Precision Bomb Purchase
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The GLSDB's range of 150 kilometers (93 miles) is almost double the GMLRS rockets deployed by both the HIMARS and the MLRS. This would allow Taiwanese forces to target an invading Chinese fleet on their own shore across the Taiwan Strait.

Taipei wants a three-layered land-based strike capability against a potential Chinese invasion, comprising the GMLRS (80 kilometers/50 miles), GLSDB (150 kilometers/93 miles), and ATACMS (300 kilometers/186 miles).
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The GLSDB is based on Boeing's air-launched GBU-39 small-diameter bomb and is capable of hitting a target within one meter (3.28 feet).

The munition can engage a target from any angle, including reverse slope engagements.

The 250-pound (113 kilograms) weapon comes with an "advanced anti-jam GPS system-aided inertial navigation system, combined with a multipurpose, penetrating blast-and-fragmentation warhead and programmable electronic fuze."
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What's old is new again. Russians bringing in T-12 anti tank guns from the 50's/early60's



Ukrainians dusting off similarly ancient anti aircraft guns for artillery or direct fire

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When will the mud dry and allow the Ukrainian counteroffensive to begin?

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GAC06 said:

What's old is new again. Russians bringing in T-12 anti tank guns from the 50's/early60's



Ukrainians dusting off similarly ancient anti aircraft guns for artillery or direct fire




It is like an 88
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Sort of. 88's were extremely effective against armor in their day. These systems are antiquated.

They'll work against pretty much anything less than an MBT, and can be used as artillery but it's anyone's guess whether either can actually be fired accurately as indirect fire
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JFABNRGR said:

GAC06 said:

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see the tank using its coax machine gun. They should have enough ammo to hose that trench down that whole time


You did not miss it. The belt fed weapon on top was never fired. I am no longer that familiar w soviet tanks but no small arms fired internally either, only 30mm from BMP off screen. Not sure if capability or a competence issue odd for sure.

One thing is for sure the drone operator had direct coms with the right tank and I bet the left tank had a different recon drone not shown.
Maybe the coaxial gun was not functioning?
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That's possible. Either way it's strange to me the tank doing the trench clearing wasn't hosing the trench with machine gun fire. An Abrams is able to carry 10,000rds of 7.62. They got the job done but they fired a lot of 125mm rds.

Here's some T-72's in a demo

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