GAC06 said:

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Cool video showing the anti-personnel rounds from the CV-90 and some other stuff

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I think that link is incorrect. I almost added in earlier post in fact still in my cache to attach. The newer models are pretty impressive with their threat detection system, auto nav to ideal firing position etc. This is the old video and horrible sales pitch to not use actual enemy armor as targets but still impressive. Apparently set up for short to medium range engagements unlike the long range of TOW carrying vehicles.

Oops that's what I was trying to post

DOG XO 84 said:

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Errybody was Kung Fu fightin'- Ha! ....those fists were fast as lightning...Was a little bit frightening....

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All I can picture is Indiana Jones with an M-4 chewing him to pieces.

revvie said:

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I was wondering the same thing. If anything just to get Germany off their position.

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has Germany done anything but roadblock stuff and promise stuff then week later say sorry we're not doing that

https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/news/military-support-ukraine-2054992

14 Panzerhaubitze 2000
30 Gepards
Lots of SAM's and anti tank rockets, ammo, small arms, spare parts, trucks, etc

Supposedly 40 marders and more gepards in the works but I guess we'll see

sclaff said:

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We haven't checked in with the Belarusians in a while

A bit of random Belarusian chaos, enjoy pic.twitter.com/oLo0h5PDqY

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) January 22, 2023

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Yeah I think I saw these guys perform at the Bellagio. I had better luck at slots later on.

GAC06 said:

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https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/news/military-support-ukraine-2054992

14 Panzerhaubitze 2000
30 Gepards
Lots of SAM's and anti tank rockets, ammo, small arms, spare parts, trucks, etc

Supposedly 40 marders and more gepards in the works but I guess we'll see

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As much as they seem to be stalling on a lot of items they have also provided some key items:

• Bridging equipment
• ADA radars, anti drone, Iris, and the Gepards (all supposedly VERY effective)
• A **** load of DET Chord.
• Mine clearing tanks/equipment
• 2MM rounds of small arms ammo
• Bunch of various ANTI tank weapons
• Tank transporting trucks
• Fuel

196,000 rds of 40MM those likely to work in the CV90s. Let em rip.
40 Marders??? they must not have much operational as those are being phased out. 70's built.
Not much night vision equipment.

Defenses need to hold better around Bakhmut.

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sclaff said:

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We haven't checked in with the Belarusians in a while

A bit of random Belarusian chaos, enjoy pic.twitter.com/oLo0h5PDqY

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) January 22, 2023

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About the stupidest thing . . .

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maybe they could perform at half time of the Mavericks game

Today's SITREP.

10k Russians remain of 50k Wagner mercenaries.

https://news.yahoo.com/10-000-wagner-group-mercenaries-172400044.html

lb3 said:

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10k Russians remain of 50k Wagner mercenaries.

https://news.yahoo.com/10-000-wagner-group-mercenaries-172400044.html

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That is insane ratios if close to correct.

How Russia's tactics have changed since the beginning of the war - 4 strategies of the Russian command 1/#russianlosses #Russiawar #UkraineRussiaWar pic.twitter.com/wgakM0LtX4

— Volodymyr Dacenko (@Volodymyr_D_) January 23, 2023

sclaff said:

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We haven't checked in with the Belarusians in a while

A bit of random Belarusian chaos, enjoy pic.twitter.com/oLo0h5PDqY

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) January 22, 2023

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Looks like a Chuck Norris movie set .. that's funny as hell

11 months of my 3 day war.

I remain a master strategist.

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) January 24, 2023

MouthBQ98 said:

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Better protection, more accurate targeting, better optics and sighting, especially at night, independent commander viewers allows for hunter killer operation and better situational awareness. Operating with supporting armored infantry and adequate engineering vehicle support, these vehicles will allow a powerful combined arms force that will allow rapid assaults that the Russian forces should not be able to adequately resist, with proper cooperative and integrated operation.

Alternatively on defense, any Russian attack that comes out in the open on the attack should be easily repelled by quick detection and accurate targeting.

These vehicles, used in concentration with a more western doctrine, should allow for Ukraine to launch attacks against Russian positions, even if there are levels of prepared defenses.

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when you analyze the situation:

there will be around 3 squadrons or companies of advanced tanks for the UFA

it may be the best possible usage of that force to serve as a mobile reserve, in that wherever the Russkies make a penetration of the defense line you send in this armored regiment to push the advancing infantry back.

similar to what happened last week in Soledar and around Bakhmut, this mobile reserve would be able to close off any "shwerpunkt" by the Russians.

if you just throw 40 tanks into an assault against prepared Russian lines, they can use Malyutka AT-3 Saggers or whatever to just knock them out as they come across the fields.

seems to be better to use the Soviet equipment for Ukrainian offensives and keep the advanced equipment to really make a difference long term in preventing any withdrawals.

To "close off any schwerpunkt" is a strange way to use that term.

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/military-review/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20070228_art014.pdf

I'd say initially, yes, a mobile reserve is the best use for small numbers.

If they can accumulate a brigade strength of western armored vehicles, they can look at changing the strategic picture in an area, however. Long term, if they can't push Russia out of a geography, they have conceded it to them.

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Belarusian armed forces recovering vehicles from long-term storages for Joint grouping of forces with Russia

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https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/24-january-belarusian-armed-forces-recovering-vehicles-from

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Government of Ukraine approved dismissal of heads of regional administration of Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhia, Kyiv, Kherson and Sumy regions

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https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/24-january-government-of-ukraine-approved-dismissal-of-heads

Taiwan has delivered a shipment of high-capacity generators to Ukraine as Russian bombing leaves millions facing emergency blackouts. pic.twitter.com/8Zq8GEi4t1

— TaiwanPlus (@taiwanplusnews) January 24, 2023

Ulysses90 said:

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To "close off any schwerpunkt" is a strange way to use that term.

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/military-review/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20070228_art014.pdf

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Haven't read that term since Red Storm Rising

Saggers though

GAC06 said:

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Saggers though

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An unfortunate consequence of an aging military force.

B-1 83 said:

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Ulysses90 said:

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To "close off any schwerpunkt" is a strange way to use that term.

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/military-review/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20070228_art014.pdf

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Haven't read that term since Red Storm Rising

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Defeating the Schwerpunkt

"The holy grail of military science is an algorithm that calculates the optimal point of attack upon an enemy's lines. In German, the word is Schwerpunkt and is commonly translated as "the point of maximum effort."

I have written extensively about Schwerpunkt previously in this blog, in academic papers and in my doctoral thesis.

MATE (Machine Analysis of Tactical Environments 2.0, the AI behind General Staff: Black Powder) is now able to calculate Schwerpunkt to a new, substantially greater, degree of accuracy. There are a number of reasons why this is now possible, but the primary cause must be the ability to analyze the battlefield in 3D and to accurately map where every unit on the map can project its force. Indeed, for many years now I have looked at the problem of computational military reasoning (AI for tactical situations) as a force projection problem."

(this is from an academic I found not my own research)

Wait WHAT

The Biden administration is leaning toward sending “a significant number” of M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine, two U.S. officials told me and @alexbward. An announcement could come as early as this week. https://t.co/Mzwvjrth15

— Lara Seligman (@laraseligman) January 24, 2023

Waffledynamics said:

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Wait WHAT

The Biden administration is leaning toward sending “a significant number” of M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine, two U.S. officials told me and @alexbward. An announcement could come as early as this week. https://t.co/Mzwvjrth15

— Lara Seligman (@laraseligman) January 24, 2023

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Politics at play. Trying to give cover to the Germans

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The Pentagon never took tanks off the table, stressed a fourth U.S. official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the matter ahead of an announcement. But in recent weeks U.S. officials have publicly cited the difficulties of providing the M1s, the Army's main battle tank. They have said the Abrams made little operational sense for Ukraine at this moment because they guzzle jet fuel and require long supply lines to maintain.

"The Abrams tank is a very complicated piece of equipment. It's expensive, it's hard to train on. It has a jet engine, I think it's about three gallons to the mile of jet fuel. It is not the easiest system to maintain," Colin Kahl, the Pentagon's top policy official, told reporters last week after a trip to Kyiv. "It may or may not be the right system."

The developments come after weeks of tense discussions between Washington, Berlin and their European allies. Since Scholz met with U.S. lawmakers last week, the German government has shifted its stance, at one point denying it had linked the transfers of the Abrams and Leopards.

A parade of Democrats and Republicans has pressured the Biden administration to grant Berlin's request to send U.S. tanks first.

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We should send surplus Abrams to the countries donating Leo's to Ukraine. This will encourage larger Leo donations and allow Ukraine to concentrate on operating and supporting just Leo's using next-door access to the continent-wide Leo logistics network.

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That would make more sense than sending them directly to Ukraine.

We should send them to back fill the leopards and to start training the Ukranians on them. Logistics be damned. Figure it out. Russia doesn't understand threats as much as action.

Our foreign materiel exploitation folks must be working overtime, too. CAPTURED

The good news is that both DOD and Congress are finally focused on fixing the problem. MUNITIONS

Yes, if NATO decisively gives Ukraine enough combat power to make Russia's war untenable, they will be forced to negotiate and from a weaker position, instead of the idea they can drag the war on until Ukraine acquiesces.

74OA said:

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The good news is that both DOD and Congress are finally focused on fixing the problem. MUNITIONS

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I think this was the wakeup call we needed. DOD got too comfortable slow rolling contracts to the same groups to provide just in time munitions for steady conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan. There's no such thing in a real war (and I'm not downplaying the blood that was shed in those conflicts, but it wasn't a world war or korea).

My concern is I'm hearing more and more people against the war as they see it nothing more than a money grab by politicians and the defence industry.

I don't see it that way. I see it as the best opportunity since WW2 to cripple our main nuclear threat with a large standing army without shedding US soldier blood. However, they conservative economic policy in me can see the conundrum.