Waffledynamics said:

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Some people spoke about Dugin's letter from yesterday, here's the full translation. He states that Russian authorities reached the limit of what they can surrender. He blames Putin directly for the failures and low-key threatens him with death. https://t.co/SHbZCikkRY pic.twitter.com/U397Swv2RM

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 11, 2022

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Someone just please put a bullet in Putin's head already.

We know that Putin had a level of control over the day to day operations and I am extremely curious as to the parallels we will see with Hitler when it comes to military decisions, once this is all over.

Also, a thank you again to those updating this thread. Been on the road last few days with spotty internet but I can always get this site to load. It's always a go to for me of course but it has been the ONLY go to for me as of late. Nice to have a reliable page for the news of Kherson.

Speaking of Kherson, what an absolute turning point. If anything is going to spark some true civil unrest in Russia in the near future, you would have to think it is right about now, no? The statement above is true more proof in my eyes.

Eliminatus said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Some people spoke about Dugin's letter from yesterday, here's the full translation. He states that Russian authorities reached the limit of what they can surrender. He blames Putin directly for the failures and low-key threatens him with death. https://t.co/SHbZCikkRY pic.twitter.com/U397Swv2RM

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 11, 2022

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Someone just please put a bullet in Putin's head already.

We know that Putin had a level of control over the day to day operations and I am extremely curious as to the parallels we will see with Hitler when it comes to military decisions, once this is all over.

Also, a thank you again to those updating this thread. Been on the road last few days with spotty internet but I can always get this site to load. It's always a go to for me of course but it has been the ONLY go to for me as of late. Nice to have a reliable page for the news of Kherson.

Speaking of Kherson, what an absolute turning point. If anything is going to spark some true civil unrest in Russia in the near future, you would have to think it is right about now, no? The statement above is true more proof in my eyes.

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If not, crossing the river and entering Crimea definitely would

The problem is that Dugin isn't advocating removing Putin and withdrawing. He's advocating turning things up to 11 and refusing to cede another inch of Ukraine (which is now Russia because they said so) even if it means total dictatorship, full wartime mobilization, and nuclear deployment.

They truly still don't think that the US or Europe have the balls to put them in their place if they display a full willingness to bring the fight to us should we not back down from supporting Ukraine. They think that there's a ytbd level of crazy they can ratchet this thing up to that will make us all tuck our tails and give them a victory.

The Russian Federation has begun evacuation from the Kakhovka district of the Kherson region. pic.twitter.com/gZTAJhTBfW

— MAKS 22🇺🇦 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) November 11, 2022

"We intend to return as soon as possible with further support to Ukraine - both political, financial and military, which includes the transfer of more modern weapons systems."

— MAKS 22🇺🇦 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) November 11, 2022

So when does Russia go to the negotiation table? They certainly don't have any leverage

Russia has announced that compulsory military training, the same as during the Soviet era, will be introduced in Russia's high school curriculums starting in 2023 - TASS

— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) November 11, 2022

They've been trying to and Ukraine has already given them their terms.

Agthatbuilds said:

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So when does Russia go to the negotiation table? They certainly don't have any leverage

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I don't think they do. They've declared 30% of Ukraine to be sovereign Russian territory. Politically they've painted themselves into a corner where they have to hold/regain what they've claimed. The hardliners are running the show. Russia won't negotiate unless a situation transpired where Ukraine was willing to cede that territory, or at least a significant portion of it.

IMO, they're not leaving unless they're forced out militarily or they can claim something negotiated that approaches what they'd have achieved via full military victory. They've put tens of thousands of men in the ground in less than a year. Politically, they can't accept walking away without something significant.

Full story - https://t.co/SvvzvWHoeX

— Artoir (@ItsArtoir) November 11, 2022

Crap like this leaking is what emboldens the Russian viewpoint that it's only a matter of time until we wilt.

A disagreement has emerged at the highest levels of the US government over whether to press Ukraine to seek a diplomatic end to its war with Russia, with America’s top general urging negotiations while other advisers & Biden argue that it is too soon.

https://t.co/sSYWpvXTXI

— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) November 11, 2022

No offense, buy some organization called "Faytuks" would be the last to know about dissension in our ranks.

It's some Ukrainian "connected" news network that puts something like that out constantly so that westerners get riled up again and send more money and arms to Ukraine. If something like that was real, it would be coming directly from their President or consolut.

The Kherson region remains a subject of the Russian Federation, there are no changes in this status - Kremlin

— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) November 11, 2022

AgLA06 said:

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No offense, buy some organization called "Faytuks" would be the last to know about dissension in our ranks.

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He's just quoting the NYT article.

Meanwhile in Russia, they're grasping at straws as to anything to feel good about: portraying the U.S. as a hellhole no one wants to visit and presenting their retreat from Kherson as an orderly withdrawal & not a hasty escape. Neither one of these talking points cheered them up. pic.twitter.com/Wd5BMWHZ3K

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) November 11, 2022

AgLA06 said:

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No offense, buy some organization called "Faytuks" would be the last to know about dissension in our ranks.

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I read the NYTimes article that said the same. About what I expect from them these days.

There's some article like that all the time. If that was real President Zelensky would be yelling it.

agent-maroon said:

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AgLA06 said:

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No offense, buy some organization called "Faytuks" would be the last to know about dissension in our ranks.

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I read the NYTimes article that said the same. About what I expect from them these days.

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Giving Russia hope of a negotiated settlement just delays their mobilization and costs more Russian lives. These stories are just as likely to be planted for strategic purposes as they are to be true reports of dissenting opinions.

ATX_AG_08 said:

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They've been trying to and Ukraine has already given them their terms.

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That's funny. Russia has given theirs too. But one side is getting their asses kicked and the other is doing the kicking. Therefore, Russia needs to capitulate unless they have some master strategy to not have to walk from kherson all the way to Russia

This chick is BSC:

Russian woman, a member of natsbol [Nationalist Bolsheviks] organisation appears to be manifesting in Russia against the withdrawal from Kherson. She cuts her arm and says the blood of various Russian people is on Putin, Shoygu, and Surovikin. pic.twitter.com/VErRfz5WgG

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 11, 2022

See below

lb3 said:

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This chick is BSC:

Russian woman, a member of natsbol [Nationalist Bolsheviks] organisation appears to be manifesting in Russia against the withdrawal from Kherson. She cuts her arm and says the blood of various Russian people is on Putin, Shoygu, and Surovikin. pic.twitter.com/VErRfz5WgG

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 11, 2022

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Putin: it's just a flesh wound.

The main russian propagandist finds the scapegoat for russian defeats.

Who do you think it's going to be? Listen and read captions here⤵️⤵️⤵️ pic.twitter.com/Hojc62sdeg

— ✙🍉 Constantine 🍉✙ (@Teoyaomiquu) November 11, 2022

Thread:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1591192952923369472.html

🧵Kherson
Some people seems confused about the Ukrainian victory in Kherson.

It is important to understand the strategy and the goals.

The goal was to liberate the area, not to kill as many Russians as possible or to destroy as much infrastructure as possible.

— Def Mon (@DefMon3) November 11, 2022

Top Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov is so mad about Russia's retreat from Kherson that he forgot the name of his own show and admitted to missing life the way it used to be. Watch his furious tirade, full of sighs, insults and outlandish lies: pic.twitter.com/X2KCTJVaCW

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) November 12, 2022

Southern Axis Update:

ISW has recoded all western #Kherson Oblast as liberated based on our high confidence assessment that the #Russians have deprived themselves of the ability to hold terrain on the right bank of the #Dnipro. /1https://t.co/L9PzmCGXgN pic.twitter.com/itlkwTegfE

— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) November 12, 2022

Southern Axis Update:#Ukrainian forces continued to target #Russian force concentrations in #Zaporizhia Oblast. /3https://t.co/L9PzmCGXgN

— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) November 12, 2022

With Kherson back under Ukraine control, is the goal too go to
Melitpol or Mariupol and try to cut off supplies to southeastern Ukraine and Crimea (with the Kerch bridge still down)?

Today's SITREP.

I will not be surprised if Solovyov is either dismissed or suicided in the next 365 days. I'd take the under if I was a betting man.

RikkiTikkaTagem said:

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With Kherson back under Ukraine control, is the goal too go to
Melitpol or Mariupol and try to cut off supplies to southeastern Ukraine and Crimea (with the Kerch bridge still down)?

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This would be my guess, however Winter may play a part in operations. I'm a layman, but i predict some sort of offensive towards Melitopol or Mariupol (leaning towards Melitopol).

That being said, I would not be entirely surprised to see that as a bluff as Ukraine retakes Lysychansk and Severodonetsk, which would be a massive punch in the gut to Russia yet again.