Gonna be a few days of sweeping and clearing Russians and securing the river line. Need to get over and push towards Melitipol / Mariupol. Trying to cross that river on anything other than raids is probably a really bad idea with Ukraine's resources.

Didn't we try that with Germany?

Can't wait for Russian tvs, cars, and walkmans to flood the market.

How much would you really want to destroy them, and would a broken up Russia where someone like China for example ends up with the far east be better in the long run? Japan would be a better option but in my opinion they're unlikely to make that kind of a move.

Why can't we push further into Russia (Ukraine has already done some precision attacks)? I don't get why we have not already to cut off more logistic lines.

Crimea is such a huge naval and economic center for both Russia and Ukraine, something like 75% of Ukraine's navy was based there and 80% of their economy used to go through Crimea. Sevastopol is Russia's only warm water port where they have been launching equipment that has been sending long range weapons into Ukraine.

Sitting back and letting this draw out does not benefit Ukraine, it does to Russia more now that they have China, Iran, and North Korea sending them weapon systems. They may not be the same quality as the west but as was proven in the Korean war quantity can sometimes beat quantity.

We know Russia does not have the ability to stop the Ukraine offensives. Find a way to get across the river (CAS planes would help greatly) and keep pushing. Even the "elite" Wagner group is getting their butt's kicked so keep pushing. A month and a half ago everyone was predicting Ukraine would be at the Dnipro and here we are in mid November already there. Russian forces are collapsing, make them surrender before signing a treaty

P.U.T.U said:

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Why can't we push further into Russia (Ukraine has already done some precision attacks)? I don't get why we have not already to cut off more logistic lines.

Crimea is such a huge naval and economic center for both Russia and Ukraine, something like 75% of Ukraine's navy was based there and 80% of their economy used to go through Crimea. Sevastopol is Russia's only warm water port where they have been launching equipment that has been sending long range weapons into Ukraine.

Sitting back and letting this draw out does not benefit Ukraine, it does to Russia more now that they have China, Iran, and North Korea sending them weapon systems. They may not be the same quality as the west but as was proven in the Korean war quantity can sometimes beat quantity.

We know Russia does not have the ability to stop the Ukraine offensives. Find a way to get across the river (CAS planes would help greatly) and keep pushing. Even the "elite" Wagner group is getting their butt's kicked so keep pushing. A month and a half ago everyone was predicting Ukraine would be at the Dnipro and here we are in mid November already there. Russian forces are collapsing, make them surrender before signing a treaty

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Why is the Crimean port so important to Russia? They have the coast just to the east all the way to Sochi and have another close by huge military and industrial port already in the Black Sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Novorossiysk

P.U.T.U said:

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Why can't we push further into Russia (Ukraine has already done some precision attacks)? I don't get why we have not already to cut off more logistic lines.

Crimea is such a huge naval and economic center for both Russia and Ukraine, something like 75% of Ukraine's navy was based there and 80% of their economy used to go through Crimea. Sevastopol is Russia's only warm water port where they have been launching equipment that has been sending long range weapons into Ukraine.

Sitting back and letting this draw out does not benefit Ukraine, it does to Russia more now that they have China, Iran, and North Korea sending them weapon systems. They may not be the same quality as the west but as was proven in the Korean war quantity can sometimes beat quantity.

We know Russia does not have the ability to stop the Ukraine offensives. Find a way to get across the river (CAS planes would help greatly) and keep pushing. Even the "elite" Wagner group is getting their butt's kicked so keep pushing. A month and a half ago everyone was predicting Ukraine would be at the Dnipro and here we are in mid November already there. Russian forces are collapsing, make them surrender before signing a treaty

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Sevastopol is not Russia's only port on the Black Sea. It has a high strategic value and big Soviet infrastructure, but they would still have Black Sea access without it. The naval base at Sevastopol and the holiday resorts along the coast have been populated with Russians from all over for a long time, but that's not so much the case with the bulk of the peninsula.

Sevatopol is Russia's only warm water naval base meaning it is the only one that does not freeze over during the winter. It is Russia's key base to provide supplies to places like Syria and also allows Russia to block Ukraine exports out of the region which is huge. Without Turkey stepping in Ukraine would have lost the majority of their export GDP.

Technically Russia has the port leased until 2042 but I am pretty certain with the current conflict if Ukraine can take it they will find a way to get out of the lease agreement.

The hunt for collaborators goes on. SBU

Ukraine's Armed Forces entered the city of Kherson on Nov. 11, according to the Defense Ministry's Intelligence Directorate.

"Kherson returns to Ukraine, as the Armed Forces enter the city," its statement. "The retreat routes are under the fire control of the Ukrainian army. Every Russian soldier who resists will be destroyed."

For those Russian soldiers who were left behind, "the only chance to avoid death is to immediately surrender," writes the Defense Ministry's Intelligence Directorate.

At about 12 p.m., Russia's Defense Ministry announced the complete withdrawal of Russian forces from the west bank of the Dnipro River, including from Kherson.

More on the liberation of Kherson City. FREE AGAIN

Should be able to reopen the bridge using a tactical section until it is repaired. SPAN

Need more attention to Bakhmut.

The most alarming parts of the Bakhmut area are Klishchiivka and the towns south. In the past three or so days, Russia has pushed substantially west, and as their infantry moves up, so do their artillery pieces. pic.twitter.com/OPji12ATxG

— Andrew Perpetua (@AndrewPerpetua) November 11, 2022

Russians claim to have captured Opytne, the one near Avdiivka. It’s likely true, as I wrote yesterday the town was totally contested and on the brink of falling. There is some chance Ukraine is holding on, but Russia’s claim of capture is likely true.

— Andrew Perpetua (@AndrewPerpetua) November 11, 2022

"After the capture of Opytne, the battles for Vodiane take on importance, as the capture of Vodiane opens up opportunities for the Russian Federation Armed Forces to advance towards the Avdiivka AFU's main supply route via Orlovka. https://t.co/3EhbnTMXIM pic.twitter.com/pSAq79L1aK

— Таино (@Omani1love) November 11, 2022

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Just a reminder that allegedly 87% of Kherson voted to be annexed by Russia.

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is that the vote where they went door to door with two gentlemen with AK's in tow

AlaskanAg99 said:

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How many Russians were estimated to rout?

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general figures were that there had been 20,000 Russkies in the Kherson pocket last month.

how many have been exfilled via the Khakhovka dam and the 6 ferries/barges, we won't know for some time.

hopefully, just like the Germans had at Stalingrad in September 1942, the Ukes have spotters along the northern bank of the Dnipro calling in strikes against the ferries and the Antonovskiy bridge zone.

let's see how the Mobiks enjoy being at the bottom of these Uke style Katyushas

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I'm not an expert but I think crossing that river is suicidal. I would think trying to push from the north towards Melitopol makes more sense.

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Yep, exactly. You leave a blocking force and all your arty safe behind the river then send in your offense from the North towards Melitopol while the orcs get shelled to bits. Bye bye water canal to Crimea...

javajaws said:

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lobopride said:

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I'm not an expert but I think crossing that river is suicidal. I would think trying to push from the north towards Melitopol makes more sense.

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Yep, exactly. You leave a blocking force and all your arty safe behind the river then send in your offense from the North towards Melitopol while the orcs get shelled to bits. Bye bye water canal to Crimea...

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Right, since Ukrainian artillery has superior range, it can use the river as a secure firing line and switch most of the assets that would otherwise be devoted to area security over to offensive operations elsewhere in the country. I suspect the Russians hope to do the same but are instead going to suffer the same indirect attrition in Kherson Oblast as they've suffered for months now.

In the meantime, the key port of Odessa and Ukraine's essential internal LOCs are fully secure from Russian ground attack for the first time since the war started.

Kherson pic.twitter.com/fBmNAbo5cY

— WarMonitor🇺🇦 (@WarMonitor3) November 11, 2022

VU Day

Are the Ukrainians driving minivans?

You sure these aren't soccer moms and the mob is just clamoring for some orange slices?

While we celebrate and share inspiring images of Kherson’s liberation from savage Russian occupation, let’s not forget the vast human cost from the occupation and the fight to liberate the city from the genocidal barbarians. Ukrainians pay in blood. Life is the ultimate price. pic.twitter.com/GH5q5P8CWJ

— ArianaGic/Аріянॳць (@GicAriana) November 11, 2022

rgag12 said:

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Are the Ukrainians driving minivans?

You sure these aren't soccer moms and the mob is just clamoring for some orange slices?

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If they want orange slices then give them orange slices until they ask you to stop.

Beautiful scene...

You can't accuse the Russians of lacking confidence...

After the Kherson withdrawal, MP Andrei Gurulyov insists it's inevitable that Russian troops will reach Ukraine's borders with Poland Slovakia, Hungary and Romania

"It's a question of time!" pic.twitter.com/w1NbiySuWY

— Francis Scarr (@francis_scarr) November 11, 2022

We cannot miss any stop, because our people are there, we see how they suffer."
⚡@Flash_news_ua

— FLASH (@Flash_news_ua) November 11, 2022

Russian Nazis are accusing Ukrainian "Nazis" of not being real Nazis and of, no joke here, culturally appropriation.
Mind you, this is the channel of an actual Russian military unit. pic.twitter.com/Z5aiExOAvZ

— Christo Grozev (@christogrozev) November 11, 2022

Waffledynamics said:

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Russian Nazis are accusing Ukrainian "Nazis" of not being real Nazis and of, no joke here, culturally appropriation.
Mind you, this is the channel of an actual Russian military unit. pic.twitter.com/Z5aiExOAvZ

— Christo Grozev (@christogrozev) November 11, 2022

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I guess the Russians aren't begging Iran for drones and missles and begging North Korea for shells.

Some people spoke about Dugin's letter from yesterday, here's the full translation. He states that Russian authorities reached the limit of what they can surrender. He blames Putin directly for the failures and low-key threatens him with death. https://t.co/SHbZCikkRY pic.twitter.com/U397Swv2RM

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 11, 2022