***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Rossticus
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Rossticus said:


Well that Hitler circle is now complete. From Putin's Sudenteland speech to a "final solution."
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Russia should quit flattering themselves. Nazi Germany tried to eliminate everyone's culture that was not there own.
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Rossticus said:


That's a good sign. Delusion.
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Thats a tough watch. Really curious as to the current whereabouts of the Yuliia Paievska, the paramedic who captured the videos. According to the video description, 256 GB of video was smuggled out of Mariupol in a tampon.
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aggiehawg said:

Rossticus said:


Well that Hitler circle is now complete. From Putin's Sudenteland speech to a "final solution."


It's a news media piece. And there are several faces on there who show disagreements with his position. We don't have the full clip. So you can't consider that is the voice of RUS without posting the full clip. Anyone have it?
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Good article about a Ukrainian sniper team made up of volunteers. With both sides digging in, it's going to be tough, especially since these snipers seem to be learning on the fly.

Some excerpts:



Dodging shells, mines and spies: On the front with Ukraine's snipers
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Shortly after the Ukrainian sniper team arrived, a Russian shell slammed close to the operations base, rattling the windows and shaking the earth. A second one crashed moments later, then a third. Two Ukrainian drone operators arrived on yellow bicycles. They, too, had narrowly avoided a mortar attack.

"The Russians only fire with artillery and tanks now," said Curly, 35, a drone operator who gave only his nom de guerre. "They don't engage in close combat.

Like many Ukrainian fighters, the five had been civilians before Russia invaded on Feb. 24. All from the southeastern city of Dnipro, they shared a passion for high-powered guns; all were members of a local shooting club called Wild Fields. They joined a volunteer corps and were sent to protect strategic sites. But what they really wanted was to put their skills to use. Now they were finally getting their chance. For three of them, Maryinka was their first front-line mission.

They were a motley crew. There was Alex, 34, a tall, blond boxing trainer; Andrei Kolupailo, 47, a towering businessman; and Oleksi Shapoval, 33, a wiry construction worker. Dima, also a construction worker, was a sniper trainer at the shooting club. All had purchased their own sniper rifles.


https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2022-05-22/eastern-ukraine-snipers-6087042.html
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Zelensky: "I am glad to note that Ukrainian-Polish relations are finally on a completely clean, sincere basis, without any quarrels and old conflict heritage. This is an achievement. The historical achievement of our nations. And I want the brotherhood between Ukrainians and Poles to be preserved forever."



The Poles and Ukrainians have had a troubled past, mainly the Wolyn Massacre where Ukrainians killed 100,000 Poles. Glad to see these two nations come together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
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Agthatbuilds said:



Can't imagine the strain war puts on a combat soldiers relationship.

James and his wife were posting this just a few weeks ago


They both sound like good people going through a rough patch. I hope the two of them talk it out and find the best path forward.
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Agthatbuilds said:



Can't imagine the strain war puts on a combat soldiers relationship.

James and his wife were posting this just a few weeks ago


They both sound like good people going through a rough patch. I hope the two of them talk it out and find the best path forward.


No, her husband left to fight a war that he was not obligated to fight. I'm amazed it lasted this long. Men going on Quixotic adventures are rarely supported by their wives. Good for her. Move on for stability.
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10thYrSr said:

CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Agthatbuilds said:



Can't imagine the strain war puts on a combat soldiers relationship.

James and his wife were posting this just a few weeks ago


They both sound like good people going through a rough patch. I hope the two of them talk it out and find the best path forward.


No, her husband left to fight a war that he was not obligated to fight. I'm amazed it lasted this long. Men going on Quixotic adventures are rarely supported by their wives. Good for her. Move on for stability.


Where is the down button vote?

So how do you feel about the Good Samaritans in general.
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I for one would have thought that mercenaries would have a more stable home life.
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Probably nuff said on this guy sad he and his wife have such differing opinions on what to do
hope there are not children involved in this breakup
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Maybe something brewing near Kherson?
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Here's to hoping they all pop up sunflowers
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ABATTBQ11 said:

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That's heroic but terrible. I'm sure the US had drones to do that. Why weren't the given to them.


We don't have that capability with drones either. We'd have to resupply the same way they did. The average American far overestimates drone capability….




Only a 40 mile range. Not sure you could realistically reach them with that platform. You'd have to stage and launch basically from the front lines. You'd also be making a lot of trips. Even if you used their largest model, a helicopter carries 20x the weight.
In addition to the cargo glider I mentioned earlier, here is an example of cargo drones also being experimented with.
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Looks like the Ukrainians may have blown up the dam near Svitlodarsk. About 10 hours ago, they blew up a bridge a bit Northwest of the dam, also near the same town. This is maybe 20-30 km South of Popasna, I think.

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More on what the M777 howitzer brings to the fight. BIG GUN

(P.S. The mention of a "jet engine" on the Excaliber round is odd.)
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That's pretty much what would be needed. It has the range and capacity to move what's necessary to where it's needed in the volume necessary. I think it's biggest advantage is a gas engine. Batteries will never have the required energy density and become expensive dead weight as they're used up. There are some interesting hybrid optima emerging though, specifically some using lightweight rotary engines that run on jet fuel or diesel. That said, none of this technology is mature, and the ability to address this mission is just not commercially available yet.


Outside the scope of this thread, but Berger is looking like a genius for pushing some of this technology for his vision of the Marines. He knows this type of supply will be critical to distributed and austere operations against a near peer in contested areas, similar to Mariupol
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ABATTBQ11 said:

That's pretty much what would be needed. It has the range and capacity to move what's necessary to where it's needed in the volume necessary. I think it's biggest advantage is a gas engine. Batteries will never have the required energy density and become expensive dead weight as they're used up. There are some interesting hybrid optima emerging though, specifically some using lightweight rotary engines that run on jet fuel or diesel. That said, none of this technology is mature, and the ability to address this mission is just not commercially available yet.
Yep, this drone's use of a turbine is a big step up.
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CS78 said:

74OA said:

Wild. Looks like all three crew got out.

GRIM


Is there a way to see the reddit links without an account?
replace 'www' with 'old'
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Waffledynamics said:

Looks like the Ukrainians may have blown up the dam near Svitlodarsk. About 10 hours ago, they blew up a bridge a bit Northwest of the dam, also near the same town. This is maybe 20-30 km South of Popasna, I think.


It's a shame. What the Russians aren't destroying, the Ukrainians themselves are forced to destroy in defense.
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ABATTBQ11 said:


Outside the scope of this thread, but Berger is looking like a genius for pushing some of this technology for his vision of the Marines. He knows this type of supply will be critical to distributed and austere operations against a near peer in contested areas, similar to Mariupol


Indeed it is but I'll vebture to add that the bar for genius isn'twhat it used to be. Zinni and Van Riper have very valid concerns about FD2030.

https://www.csis.org/events/future-marine-corps-assessing-force-design-2030
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/23/world/europe/us-ukraine-howitzers.html

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Camouflaged in a heap of branches cut from nearby trees, the weapon that Ukraine hopes will make a critical difference in its war with Russia is all but invisible from more than a few feet away.

Soon, a single round shoots out with a boom and a howling, metallic shriek as it sails toward Russian positions.

It is the American-made M777 howitzer. It shoots farther, moves faster and is hidden more easily, and it's what the Ukrainian military has been waiting for.
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Three months into the war in Ukraine, the first American heavy artillery the most lethal weapons the West has provided so far are now deployed in combat in Ukraine's east. Their arrival has buoyed Ukraine's hopes of achieving artillery superiority at least in some frontline areas, a key step toward military victories in a war now fought mostly on flat, open steppe at long ranges.
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The American howitzers are chunky machines of steel and titanium swathed in hydraulic hoses and perched on four braces that fold up and down. They have already fired hundreds of rounds since arriving around May 8, destroying armored vehicles and killing Russian soldiers, Ukrainian commanders say.
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The United States said weeks ago it would provide the howitzers, but their use in combat has so far been mostly hinted at in online videos posted, mostly anonymously, by soldiers. On Sunday, the military provided The New York Times a tour of a gun line in eastern Ukraine, the first independent confirmation by international media that the guns are in use.

Military analysts say the full effect won't be felt for at least another two weeks, because Ukraine has yet to train enough soldiers to fire all 90 such howitzers pledged by the United States and other allies. Only about a dozen guns are now at the front, and they are not a guarantee of victory, as the Russians continue to engage in fierce fighting in the eastern Donbas region.

Arming Ukraine with more powerful weapons is a politically sensitive issue. The United States, France, Slovakia and other Western nations have been rushing in heavy artillery and support systems such as drones, counter-battery radar and armored vehicles for towing guns even as Russia accuses the West of fighting a proxy war in Ukraine, and threatens unspecified consequences if weapons shipments continue.

Disagreements over how aggressively to confront Russia have cropped up in the Western coalition. France, Italy and Germany have suggested that Ukraine use the leverage of more powerful weapons to push for a cease-fire that might lead to a negotiated withdrawal of Russian forces.

Ukrainian officials have pushed back. They insist that momentum is on their side and that talks should come only after battlefield wins and recapturing territory once an almost inconceivable idea that became more tenable after Ukraine's military inflicted multiple setbacks on Russia even before the arrival of Western heavy weaponry.

President Volodymyr Zelensky, in an interview on Ukrainian television over the weekend, said a diplomatic solution would come only after additional military victories for Ukraine, along with an influx of weapons. The Ukrainian military has repelled Russian troops from Kyiv and from positions near the country's second-largest city, Kharkiv, but is under intense pressure now in a more limited battle for control of the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine.

"It's like an automobile, not a gas-powered, or electric, but a hybrid," he said of ending the war with a mix of military gains and talks. "And that is how war is: complicated."

"Victory will be bloody," Mr. Zelensky said.
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Out on the open plains of the east, a long drive over potholed roads and dirt tracks ends with jeeps pivoting quickly into a tree line.

Secrecy is paramount in the cat-and-mouse artillery duels that have defined the war in recent weeks. Soldiers waste no time piling fresh-cut branches onto the vehicles, as camouflage against enemy drones.

In the artillery duels, soldiers value not just range but the ability to quickly hide and move guns and supporting vehicles.
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Since their deployment two weeks ago, the dozen or so howitzers operating in two artillery batteries had by Sunday fired 1,876 rounds, according to Ukrainian officers.

With a mix of airburst, anti-personnel fragmentation rounds and other types of projectiles, the Ukrainian gunners have destroyed at least three Russian armored vehicles, and by Colonel Kachur's estimate killed at least several dozen Russian soldiers.
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A Ukrainian gun crew fired a M777 howitzer toward Russian positions in the Donetsk region of Ukraine.


Soldiers with Ukraine's 55th Separate Artillery Brigade cleaned and carried out maintenance on the howitzer.


Soldiers position the weapon in a stand of trees for camouflage.


The gun crew moved quickly to another position after firing at Russian forces.


Artillery operators at a firing position.

(Pictures from article and credit to NYT)
74OA
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........and now Harpoons, too.
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Uncorroborated, but it wouldn't surprise me either.

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