***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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In reply to 74OA • 3:24p, 4/21/22
"Russia the Righteous vs The World and Evil Nazi USA, who is the sole reason Russia is not prosperous and Russia isn't a great power, is out to get us".

There are ways for people to access outside info but they choose to believe Russian propaganda over every other available source of info. There's a reason that many Russian expats also support what Russia is doing with little concern. Being Russian is, to many Russians, a religion as much as anything else.
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In reply to Rossticus • 3:25p, 4/21/22
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Rossticus said:
"Russia the Righteous vs The World and Evil Nazi USA, who is the sole reason Russia is not prosperous and Russia isn't a great power, is out to get us".
We weren't, but we are now. Actions have consequences, Ivan.
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3:31p, 4/21/22
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If it flies, it dies.
Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 3:38p, 4/21/22
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

NSFW


Nvmd. Seems like standard crew and this was an armed Mi-8. I count at least 3 bodies.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 3:43p, 4/21/22
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Hopefully all fsb or wagner. I cant see russia transporting conscripts in helos.
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3:47p, 4/21/22
The Russians, being Russians, do a funny thing where they put fuel tanks inside the cabin on Mi-8/17's ...

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3:48p, 4/21/22
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I thought I was at the "You've seen one, You've seen 'em all" stage with tank turrets.

I was wrong. 5th floor!
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In reply to Jayhawk • 3:50p, 4/21/22
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The Russians, being Russians, do a funny thing where they put fuel tanks inside the cabin on Mi-8/17's ...

Bet there is not a single no smoking sign in there either.
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In reply to Jayhawk • 3:53p, 4/21/22
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"You know how much we think of our soldiers? We put them in the same boxes as all of the burney and explodey stuff."
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3:54p, 4/21/22
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Fabulous article by a former Commander, US Army Europe.

Shares his first-hand observation of both the Russian and Ukrainian armies over the course of several decades.

Definitely worth a read: WHAT I SAW
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In reply to bonfarr • 4:02p, 4/21/22
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bonfarr said:
one MEEN Ag said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
PJYoung said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
Rossticus said:
Just sayin'…


We don't have enough weapons to defend against Russia. We have enough to obliterate them, conventionally at least.


You think we're short of nukes?

If nukes come in to play, there are no winners and there are no losers. It's a reset button.
China wins because there is no reason to attack them and they would be the largest remaining power. America, Europe and Russia would be a smoldering husk.


If the US and Russia annihilated each other with nukes there wouldn't be a winner. The entire planet would experience a nuclear winter and die. The Aussies and New Zealanders would be the last to die but ultimately the fallout kills them too.

The cockroaches are the only winners in a ful scale nuclear war.
This is false. There have been over 800 atmospheric tests to date. A couple thousand more won't destroy the planet.
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4:02p, 4/21/22
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/on-the-battlefield-with-russia-afghanistan-s-loss-is-ukraine-s-gain/ar-AAWqiWh?ocid=BingNewsSearch

Wash Post story of US transferring Russian made Mi-17 helicopter previously used in Afghanistan...by Afghans..

we bought it and paid for it, Now we re-directing to Ukrainians...
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In reply to lb3 • 4:04p, 4/21/22
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lb3 said:
bonfarr said:
one MEEN Ag said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
PJYoung said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
Rossticus said:
Just sayin'…


We don't have enough weapons to defend against Russia. We have enough to obliterate them, conventionally at least.


You think we're short of nukes?

If nukes come in to play, there are no winners and there are no losers. It's a reset button.
China wins because there is no reason to attack them and they would be the largest remaining power. America, Europe and Russia would be a smoldering husk.


If the US and Russia annihilated each other with nukes there wouldn't be a winner. The entire planet would experience a nuclear winter and die. The Aussies and New Zealanders would be the last to die but ultimately the fallout kills them too.

The cockroaches are the only winners in a ful scale nuclear war.
This is false. There have been over 800 atmospheric tests to date. A couple thousand more won't destroy the planet.
Perhaps you're being funny, but "a couple thousand more" all at once very likely would.
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In reply to lb3 • 4:11p, 4/21/22
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lb3 said:
bonfarr said:
one MEEN Ag said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
PJYoung said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
Rossticus said:
Just sayin'…


We don't have enough weapons to defend against Russia. We have enough to obliterate them, conventionally at least.


You think we're short of nukes?

If nukes come in to play, there are no winners and there are no losers. It's a reset button.
China wins because there is no reason to attack them and they would be the largest remaining power. America, Europe and Russia would be a smoldering husk.


If the US and Russia annihilated each other with nukes there wouldn't be a winner. The entire planet would experience a nuclear winter and die. The Aussies and New Zealanders would be the last to die but ultimately the fallout kills them too.

The cockroaches are the only winners in a ful scale nuclear war.
This is false. There have been over 800 atmospheric tests to date. A couple thousand more won't destroy the planet.

If you were stung by 800 bees over your lifetime, would that kill you? No.

If you were stung by several thousand bees at once, you'd be dead.
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In reply to 74OA • 4:11p, 4/21/22
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74OA said:
Fabulous article by a former Commander, US Army Europe.

Shares his first-hand observation of both the Russian and Ukrainian armies over the course of several decades.

Definitely worth a read: WHAT I SAW
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With tongue firmly in cheek, I told the translator to tell the colonel that having fought in Desert Storm, I had seen many T-72sbut none of them still had the turret attached. The interpreter hesitated and asked me if I really wanted to say that to his colonel. Nodding my head, I watched my new friend's face turn red, but then transition to a slight grin. "Those were the export versions we gave the Iraqis."
Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
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In reply to OKC~Ag • 4:13p, 4/21/22
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OKC~Ag said:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/on-the-battlefield-with-russia-afghanistan-s-loss-is-ukraine-s-gain/ar-AAWqiWh?ocid=BingNewsSearch

Wash Post story of US transferring Russian made Mi-17 helicopter previously used in Afghanistan...by Afghans..

we bought it and paid for it, Now we re-directing to Ukrainians...
.

If only our Pentagon leadership had the foresight to have predicted that Russian helicopters would be put to better use by the Ukrainians than the Afghans.
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In reply to doctorAg13 • 4:15p, 4/21/22
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doctorAg13 said:
10thYrSr said:
Sharpshooter said:
Is anyone alarmed that this thread falls during the day? I guess we have gotten used to the fact that people are dying every day. Not to say that we don't care, but our attention is worn out. You can tell by the frequency of postings. This is all great information but we have become exhausted.

Granted I am not trained military; however, isn't it normal that fighting subsides during the night? Our day is their night, so, it seems normal that posts would subside as well. Sorry if I am misunderstanding your post.


What I mean to say is that people are losing interest in this conflict. This thread used to be at the top of the page every time. Now I wouldn't be surprised to find it on the second page if it weren't for Rossticus late night updates
I've noticed when I go to the listing of the threads it may indicate that there are, say 100 new posts since I last looked at it, like this morning. But when I opened the thread there were maybe 30 new posts. Often there are significantly fewer posts. This happens quite often - does that mean the mods are throttling down on the posts or removing redundant posts?

[YES, TRYING TO REMOVE THE DERAILS. -STAFF]
Thanks, stay focused!
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In reply to FriscoKid • 4:18p, 4/21/22
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FriscoKid said:
74OA said:
Fabulous article by a former Commander, US Army Europe.

Shares his first-hand observation of both the Russian and Ukrainian armies over the course of several decades.

Definitely worth a read: WHAT I SAW
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With tongue firmly in cheek, I told the translator to tell the colonel that having fought in Desert Storm, I had seen many T-72sbut none of them still had the turret attached. The interpreter hesitated and asked me if I really wanted to say that to his colonel. Nodding my head, I watched my new friend's face turn red, but then transition to a slight grin. "Those were the export versions we gave the Iraqis."

Doesn't seem like the domestic ones were much better.
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In reply to 74OA • 4:21p, 4/21/22
Excellent read. Thanks!
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In reply to 74OA • 4:25p, 4/21/22
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74OA said:
Fabulous article by a former Commander, US Army Europe.

Shares his first-hand observation of both the Russian and Ukrainian armies over the course of several decades.

Definitely worth a read: WHAT I SAW


Excellent read. It seems all that work is paying off in the form of dead Russians.
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In reply to 74OA • 4:26p, 4/21/22
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74OA said:
lb3 said:
bonfarr said:
one MEEN Ag said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
PJYoung said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
Rossticus said:
Just sayin'…


We don't have enough weapons to defend against Russia. We have enough to obliterate them, conventionally at least.


You think we're short of nukes?

If nukes come in to play, there are no winners and there are no losers. It's a reset button.
China wins because there is no reason to attack them and they would be the largest remaining power. America, Europe and Russia would be a smoldering husk.


If the US and Russia annihilated each other with nukes there wouldn't be a winner. The entire planet would experience a nuclear winter and die. The Aussies and New Zealanders would be the last to die but ultimately the fallout kills them too.

The cockroaches are the only winners in a ful scale nuclear war.
This is false. There have been over 800 atmospheric tests to date. A couple thousand more won't destroy the planet.
Perhaps you're being funny, but "a couple thousand more" all at once very likely would.
Almost all of the biggest nukes are exoatmospheric or air bursts. Cities will burn and lots of smoke will be released altering weather patterns and possibly cause large scale famines but the "nuclear winter" will be much closer to a Mount St. Helens event than a planet killing mass extinction event.
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In reply to 74OA • 4:30p, 4/21/22
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74OA said:
Fabulous article by a former Commander, US Army Europe.

Shares his first-hand observation of both the Russian and Ukrainian armies over the course of several decades.

Definitely worth a read: WHAT I SAW

This was really good. Definitely highlights the importance of NCOs and a truly professional fighting force.
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4:43p, 4/21/22
Resistance

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Rossticus said:
Resistance

that's good point about deleting video off of phones.

Maybe we need to be sending in burner phones
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In reply to Rossticus • 4:49p, 4/21/22
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Viva Espaa!
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to lb3 • 4:50p, 4/21/22
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lb3 said:
74OA said:
lb3 said:
bonfarr said:
one MEEN Ag said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
PJYoung said:
mickeyrig06sq3 said:
Rossticus said:
Just sayin'…


We don't have enough weapons to defend against Russia. We have enough to obliterate them, conventionally at least.


You think we're short of nukes?

If nukes come in to play, there are no winners and there are no losers. It's a reset button.
China wins because there is no reason to attack them and they would be the largest remaining power. America, Europe and Russia would be a smoldering husk.


If the US and Russia annihilated each other with nukes there wouldn't be a winner. The entire planet would experience a nuclear winter and die. The Aussies and New Zealanders would be the last to die but ultimately the fallout kills them too.

The cockroaches are the only winners in a ful scale nuclear war.
This is false. There have been over 800 atmospheric tests to date. A couple thousand more won't destroy the planet.
Perhaps you're being funny, but "a couple thousand more" all at once very likely would.
Almost all of the biggest nukes are exoatmospheric or air bursts. Cities will burn and lots of smoke will be released altering weather patterns and possibly cause large scale famines but the "nuclear winter" will be much closer to a Mount St. Helens event than a planet killing mass extinction event.

The radiation is the problem
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In reply to MeatDr • 4:51p, 4/21/22
MeatDr said:
I thought I was at the "You've seen one, You've seen 'em all" stage with tank turrets.

I was wrong. 5thEspada!




It went 5th Element "Big Boom!"
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In reply to Rossticus • 5:00p, 4/21/22
Rossticus said:


Slava Ukraini
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