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— DZENGA (@grimcultzero) April 15, 2022
This is beginning to remind me of the Einsatzgruppen massacres in Poland, the Baltics, & Soviet territory. Before it became industrialized & they just shot people en masse & buried them in ditches. Thankfully doesn’t appear to be on the same scale.https://t.co/LCbfEeKpdZ
— Patrick Fox (@RealCynicalFox) April 15, 2022
Again for context: at the Rumbula massacre at Riga in '41, 25,000 dead. At Babi Yar outside Kyiv in '41, over 33,700 dead. Whether it's a lack of time, organization, or intent we've not seen these kinds of numbers yet. I fervently hope it remains so.
— Patrick Fox (@RealCynicalFox) April 15, 2022
RUSSIA: We will bomb them into submission.aggiehawg said:This may be an indication of a few different things, either Russian Forces truly are beginning to run out of Stand-Off Cruise Missiles that can be fired from Bombers over Belarus or the Black Sea, or Russia is beginning to start risking Strategic Assets which is not a good sign.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) April 15, 2022
Yeah I would think Belarus is a good indicator of what support russia might actually get from any of their alliances.Waffledynamics said:
Kazakhstan has already told them to pound sand, right?
Would this declaration change US/NATO posturing at all?
Russian media is now pushing the conspiracy that Europe is about to divide into three parts
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) April 15, 2022
This conspiracy appears to be an adaptation of Alexander Dugin's Dublin to Vladivostok illiberal Russian Empire that will challenge U.S. hegemony
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) April 15, 2022
But this rhetoric is expressed within Putin's inner sanctum, as Dmitri Medvedev discussed a Lisbon to Vladivostok united Eurasia
Still no official report of how many died aboard the Moskva cruiser. No photographs of the ship or the 510 member crew, more than 24 hours after they were supposedly rescued. Just a wreath at a memorial in Sevastopol to the “ship and sailors.” https://t.co/X2OZLHMLHR
— Andrew Roth (@Andrew__Roth) April 15, 2022
And this is why we do whatever it takes to make sure their ambitions end here in Ukraine. If that means we send planes, tanks, whatever, and even if it means risking that Putin pushes the big red button, you do it. Otherwise your kids will get to see this same game play out across every other former soviet bloc country in the coming decades as Russia works to get the band back together. We keep saying we will learn from history and not repeat the mistakes. This is our Chamberlain moment...we can either back down and let the Russians take Ukraine and slaughter their population in return for "peace in our time" and no risk of Putin launching nukes, only to watch him do the same to the rest of eastern europe over the following years. Or we can stop them now and set about grinding their military up and making them a hermit state like North Korea that nobody but the Chinese will do business with.Rossticus said:
Good grief. They are nuttier than squirrel turds. It's like they're trying to talk themselves and their people into going full Hitler (never go full Hitler).Russian media is now pushing the conspiracy that Europe is about to divide into three parts
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) April 15, 2022This conspiracy appears to be an adaptation of Alexander Dugin's Dublin to Vladivostok illiberal Russian Empire that will challenge U.S. hegemony
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) April 15, 2022
But this rhetoric is expressed within Putin's inner sanctum, as Dmitri Medvedev discussed a Lisbon to Vladivostok united Eurasia
Agree. We are not dealing with people who are based in reality. The paranoia and inferiority complex drives these boastful tells of their deep seated fears. Quite the massive neuroses.Quote:
Good grief. They are nuttier than squirrel turds.
aggiehawg said:Agree. We are not dealing with people who are based in reality. The paranoia and inferiority complex drives these boastful tells of their deep seated fears. Quite the massive neuroses.Quote:
Good grief. They are nuttier than squirrel turds.
aggiehawg said:
I don't see Orban as being that land hungry though. Does he speak of himself as some sort of emperor?
Are we sure they actually do, this is an honest question. After what we have seen over the last month, i'm just really not sure what kinds of tech they have versus what they say they have. Now if you told me they had some Nikon Cameras attached to helium balloons floating above Ukraine, i'd believe that. BTW, thanks for all you and others have contributed since this thread started, outside of RebelRussiaLover, haven't missed a single post and it has been very much appreciated by myself and others I'm sure.Rossticus said:
They have imaging satellites too and can certainly confirm shipments entering the country. The senate passed lend/lease and the house will too so there won't be any secrets. It all depends on how confrontational Russia chooses to be over it but a full declaration of war on Ukraine changes some of the dynamics and significantly raises stakes.
EU hates Orban anyway. They keep threatening to sanction him. But his remaining neutral is walking a tightrope.Quote:
Orban isn't going to go out and try to conquer those countries himself, no. I just think it's a less than subtle way for Russia to signal that he's on their side and sow a little discord by emphasizing the already prevalent view among most NATO nations that there's a Fox in the henhouse.
Makes me think that the anti-ship missiles slammed right into those exposed missile canisters and detonated most or all of them on one side, wiping out much of the crew in an instant, with most of the others being trapped below deck by the fire and later dying from it.MeatDr said:Still no official report of how many died aboard the Moskva cruiser. No photographs of the ship or the 510 member crew, more than 24 hours after they were supposedly rescued. Just a wreath at a memorial in Sevastopol to the “ship and sailors.” https://t.co/X2OZLHMLHR
— Andrew Roth (@Andrew__Roth) April 15, 2022
2) 13:30. A train with equipment (11 BMP-2, 21 Ural trucks of various modifications, 6 Grad MLRS, 7 KamAZ trucks, GAZ 66) was seen at Gomel-Passenger station, moving east. The train also had 3 passenger cars and 2 freight cars.
— Belarusian Hajun project (@MotolkoHelp) April 15, 2022
2/8
You may be onto something there. It was during a heavy storm so nearly everyone would be below deck, if not stationed on the bridge itself.Quote:
Makes me think that the anti-ship missiles slammed right into those exposed missile canisters and detonated most or all of them on one side, wiping out much of the crew in an instant, with most of the others being trapped below deck by the fire and later dying from it.
S-300sB-1 83 said:What is the most effective way to knock these out of the sky?aggiehawg said:This may be an indication of a few different things, either Russian Forces truly are beginning to run out of Stand-Off Cruise Missiles that can be fired from Bombers over Belarus or the Black Sea, or Russia is beginning to start risking Strategic Assets which is not a good sign.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) April 15, 2022
***BREAKING***
— H I Sutton (@CovertShores) April 15, 2022
Updated article at https://t.co/tDVzYYzfpj
Tonight, Russian Navy warships have been sailing out of Sevastopol. Too soon to say destination but direction Ukraine. There were more landing ships near Crimean coast pic.twitter.com/9n6Z9n8BWV
B-1 83 said:
I wonder if they're escorted or the Ukes have intercept capabilities.
If it were a blast big enough to blow a hole in the side large enough to cause an immediate list, then it would seem likely that everyone below deck would have been killed instantly. At least that's how I prefer to view it anyways...aggiehawg said:You may be onto something there. It was during a heavy storm so nearly everyone would be below deck, if not stationed on the bridge itself.Quote:
Makes me think that the anti-ship missiles slammed right into those exposed missile canisters and detonated most or all of them on one side, wiping out much of the crew in an instant, with most of the others being trapped below deck by the fire and later dying from it.
Tough way to go.
Nice thought but depends on whether the below deck bulkheads were in the closed position. It didn't sink immediately, took some time from all accounts I have seen.Quote:
If it were a blast big enough to blow a hole in the side large enough to cause an immediate list, then it would seem likely that everyone below deck would have been killed instantly. At least that's how I prefer to view it anyways...
Death toll after Russians shelled Kharkiv rises to 10, including a 7-month-old child. 35 civilians are injured. On April 15 at 4:30PM, Russians fired with Uragan self-propelled multiple rocket launcher system at Industrialnyi District District of Kharkiv.
— Hromadske Int. (@Hromadske) April 15, 2022
Next round of #Russian crack troops. Wtf am I even looking at? pic.twitter.com/19t0lmsvQj
— Canadian Ukrainian Volunteer 🇺🇦🇨🇦✊🏻 (@CanadianUkrain1) April 14, 2022
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 15, 2022
(Full image) pic.twitter.com/6vusoOyO30
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 15, 2022
The Times is reporting that British SAS troops are training Ukrainian forces around Kyiv. https://t.co/mOxlfoYzAU
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 15, 2022
That's going to need some hard work to resolve pic.twitter.com/9EIwKiCd7b
— Jon Hawkes (@JonHawkes275) April 15, 2022
Video allegedly showing Ukrainian forces shooting down a Russian Orlan-10 UAV. https://t.co/bAl3SCTFdP pic.twitter.com/QN96X2YQIF
— Rob Lee (@RALee85) April 15, 2022
