***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Rossticus
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2:45p, 4/14/22
Per Russia WW3 has already started. Guess we can stop *****footing around and kick some ass since we don't have to worry about that elephant in the room any longer.

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2:48p, 4/14/22
BAYYYYYYYRRRRRAKTARRRRRRRR INNNNNNNCOMMMMMMIIIIIINNNNNGGGGG!!!! Please.



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In reply to Rossticus • 2:50p, 4/14/22
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Rossticus said:
Per Russia WW3 has already started. Guess we can stop *****footing around and kick some ass since we don't have to worry about that elephant in the room any longer.

should have thought of that before they invaded
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In reply to docb • 2:54p, 4/14/22
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Just remember. Only Russia is allowed to strike other countries legally. Any attack on Russian troops or Russian soil is considered an illegal attack
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In reply to docb • 2:54p, 4/14/22
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docb said:
Rossticus said:
Per Russia WW3 has already started. Guess we can stop *****footing around and kick some ass since we don't have to worry about that elephant in the room any longer.

should have thought of that before they invaded
I will say, the reaction by Europe has been the most surprising of all of this, second only to the ingenuity of Uke Farmers. There was 0 intel that indicated Ukraine would be any different than the rest of the annexations. Now the Russians are stuck Bagdad Bob-ing to try to buy time to salvage the Special Op.
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2:57p, 4/14/22
TAG! You're it! Hey. HEY! Hmmm…must've tagged too hard…

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2:58p, 4/14/22
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Sunken ship parade back on- Russian MoD reports Moskva capsized and sank.
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3:02p, 4/14/22
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In reply to Rossticus • 3:02p, 4/14/22
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Rossticus said:
TAG! You're it! Hey. HEY! Hmmm…must've tagged too hard…

Do they just not have enough tubes to lay in a "fire for effect" type barrage?
Today, unfortunately, many Americans have good reason to fear that they will be victimized if they are unable to protect themselves. And today, no less than in 1791, the Second Amendment guarantees their right to do so. - Justice Samuel Alito 2022
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In reply to RebelE Infantry • 3:02p, 4/14/22
RebelE Infantry said:
Sunken ship parade back on- Russian MoD reports Moskva capsized and sank.


Channeling my inner Dr Seusse…

Moskva, The three words that best describe you are as follows, and I quote:

"SINK, SANK, SUNK!"
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In reply to RebelE Infantry • 3:04p, 4/14/22
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Sunken ship parade back on- Russian MoD reports Moskva capsized and sank.
Like the feint at Kyiv, this was part of the plan - in this case to transition the Moskva to a submarine.
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In reply to JB!98 • 3:08p, 4/14/22
Nope. Volume is not a luxury they currently have at their disposal.
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In reply to RebelE Infantry • 3:09p, 4/14/22
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RebelE Infantry said:
Sunken ship parade back on- Russian MoD reports Moskva capsized and sank.
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In reply to Rossticus • 3:10p, 4/14/22
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Rossticus said:
Nope. Volume is not a luxury they currently have at their disposal.
Well maybe someone should remedy that for them.
Today, unfortunately, many Americans have good reason to fear that they will be victimized if they are unable to protect themselves. And today, no less than in 1791, the Second Amendment guarantees their right to do so. - Justice Samuel Alito 2022
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In reply to rally-cap • 3:11p, 4/14/22
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rally-cap said:
RebelE Infantry said:
Sunken ship parade back on- Russian MoD reports Moskva capsized and sank.
Probably gonna send the crewmate's families to the gulag for this blunder
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In reply to JB!98 • 3:13p, 4/14/22
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JB!98 said:
Rossticus said:
TAG! You're it! Hey. HEY! Hmmm…must've tagged too hard…

Do they just not have enough tubes to lay in a "fire for effect" type barrage?
Who would have ever believed we'd watch actual combat footage in almost real-time set to Euro-Techno Music. It is surreal
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In reply to Rossticus • 3:14p, 4/14/22
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Well, then stop fighting and pull back or you're forever going to be viewed like the Nazis and the Kaiser. If you're getting your *** kicked in a proxy war, just think about what happens if regular troops and a free flow of equipment and airpower are introduced.
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In reply to JB!98 • 3:18p, 4/14/22
JB!98 said:
Rossticus said:
Nope. Volume is not a luxury they currently have at their disposal.
Well maybe someone should remedy that for them.


I've been on that train for a while. Let's make it rain.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 3:21p, 4/14/22
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ABATTBQ11 said:
Well, then stop fighting and pull back or you're forever going to be viewed like the Nazis and the Kaiser. If you're getting your *** kicked in a proxy war, just think about what happens of regular troops and a free flow of equipment and airpower are introduced.
Exactly. Our technology is so superior, that even using the aging Ukrainian weapons, outmanned army and inflicting heavy damage on the Russians.

Really amazing.
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3:34p, 4/14/22
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I'm going to guess Russian construction quality and maintenance and damage control training was less than optimal, and once hit, lots of things went poorly onboard.
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3:35p, 4/14/22
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Hate to rain on some of yalll's ship hasn't sunk yet party…..hahaha
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3:47p, 4/14/22
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Today's SITREP.

Russia confirms Moskva sank while under tow.
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3:51p, 4/14/22
Heading west. Guess Russia is going to either threaten Finland or move them into Belarus and pound citizens in Kyiv to get even for their cruiser.

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In reply to PJYoung • 3:51p, 4/14/22
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PJYoung said:
Project Gemini said:
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, I do money not warfare for a living. Its seems the ship is damaged but still floating and they are trying to get it back for repairs. Why wouldn't the Ukranians be sending more ordinance at it to permanently sink it? Is that not cool in legal warfare to hit it? Perhaps they can't because medical / rescue personnel are there? I suppose there are many reasons why not and we probably don't know if they tried again.
The Russians aren't going to repair it.
It's an old ship, that now has (likely) significant battle damage.

This entire exercise of taking it back to port is so that folks can say the ship wasn't sunk.
This is an absolute embarrassment for the Ruskies.

Ha, serves me right - shouldn't have posted before reading the entire thread.
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In reply to 74OA • 3:53p, 4/14/22
Daily Mail story

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Russia's Black Sea flagship has been sunk, Moscow's defence ministry finally admitted tonight, after Kyiv officially claimed earlier to have been behind a double-missile strike late on Wednesday off the coast of Ukraine.

The Moskva - a huge Soviet-era missile cruiser - sank as it was towed back to port in stormy weather following an explosion and fire, Russian news agencies reported on Thursday.


That account tallies with information put out by the Lithuanian Minister of National Defense, Arvydas Anuauskas. Posting on social media today, he wrote: 'An SOS signal was given from the Russian cruiser Moscow at 1.05am.

'[At] 1.14am The cruiser lay on its side and after half an hour all the electricity went out. From 2am, the Turkish ship evacuated 54 sailors from the cruiser, and at about 3am, Turkey and Romania reported that the ship was completely sunk. The related losses of Russian personnel are not yet known, although there were 485 people on board (66 of them officers).'
Reminiscent of a WWII German leader-


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Putin was 'furious' in a way 'never seen before', the General SVR Telegram channel said.

Full Mail article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10720215/Russias-Black-Sea-flagship-Moskva-SUNK-Moscows-defence-agency-admits.html
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In reply to Rossticus • 3:56p, 4/14/22
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Rossticus said:
Heading west. Guess Russia is going to either threaten Finland or move them into Belarus and pound citizens in Kyiv to get even for their cruiser.

Translation? Is it time to panic about nukes being in play and repositioned?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 3:58p, 4/14/22
aggiehawg said:
Rossticus said:
Heading west. Guess Russia is going to either threaten Finland or move them into Belarus and pound citizens in Kyiv to get even for their cruiser.

Translation? Is it time to panic about nukes being in play and repositioned?
You don't need to move a Topol-M missile "west" to attack anyone. They can fire that thing from pretty much anywhere in Russia and hit whatever they want.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 4:01p, 4/14/22
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MouthBQ98 said:
I'm going to guess Russian construction quality and maintenance and damage control training was less than optimal, and once hit, lots of things went poorly onboard.
Vodka is a helluva drug!
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In reply to aggiehawg • 4:01p, 4/14/22
Nah. They'll have conventional warheads. Not concerned about nukes or any threat to anyone other than Ukraine. They may saber rattle at Finland over NATO membership but it would be sheer stupidity for Russia to expand the war right now. I don't think Putin has completely stroked out and started pulling levers blindly (yet).
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In reply to Rapier108 • 4:02p, 4/14/22
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That's not very reassuring.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 4:05p, 4/14/22
No but less likely to be attacked if they're firing them out of Belarus, depending on where they're moving them from. That or making a visible statement to Finland if they park them on the border like they threatened to a few days back.
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4:05p, 4/14/22
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4:09p, 4/14/22
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That is the second weapon system they have moved west, the first one went to Vyborg which is very close to Finland
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4:13p, 4/14/22
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