Video of a Ukrainian UAV tracking Russian soldiers as they return to their position before targeting them with artillery fire.https://t.co/LobN6jjULk pic.twitter.com/odLBdWna2A

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) April 14, 2022

Ukrainian special operations forces detonated the bridge, the 🇺🇦 general staff said in a statement. Russian Tiger, Kamaz, and Ural vehicles were traveling in the convoy. pic.twitter.com/lw7Xn5Btb5

— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) April 14, 2022

Rossticus said:

---

FriscoKid said:

---

This ship had to be the most expensive piece of equipment in the whole war right? I'm still in shock that the Ukrainians sunk it.

Furthermore, does this kill the whole fleet since I read that this one was providing the majority of the air defense for the rest of the ships (and southern Ukraine for that matter)

---

Hands down. Doesn't kill the fleet but somewhere between kneecapping it and severing its Achilles. Glorious.

That said, Russia will go all in on breaking the will of the Ukrainians from here on out. This is a turning point and I don't see any "negotiated settlement" after today unless it's forced on Russia by virtue of decisive Ukrainian military victory. Ukraine just publicly humiliated Putin even more so than they had already.

---

I'm a little lost by this line of reasoning. I mean Putin has been going all in on breaking the will of the Civilian Ukes since about day 10 by demoing most every building in every city east of the Donbass River. Seems like all he managed to do is get the Ukes to go all in on publicly humiliating Putin in response to him leveling cities. I'm pretty sure the Ukes are looking for any way to humiliate Putin as often as possible. I just can't decide if the Russian Army is that bad or they are that bad on purpose, re Kherson? Airport. "Oh, those Nazi Uke's wouldn't Dare shoot at us again, surely they know it will really make us mad!"

Re the Mariupol link up posted somewhere else. If nothing else the 36th can share weapons or ammo and split fighting time with who they linked up with, and if nothing else, die with their friends even though the Russian's seem to have a hard time trying to make that happen.... They just keep adding to the legend of the Mariupolian Alamo. At the rate they are going, the might just survive with the loss of the Moskva. Won't be a pretty supply operation, but it just got a lot easier to use PT style boats if they try it, I suspect. I know they have the gonads to do it, if they haven't been trying already.

At the end of the day the Ukes may lose, but after today, every day they don't, makes it less likely they won't lose, and if Putin doesn't get his propaganda coup on 5/9 to celebrate that holiday, It's probably lights out for him. Either way, Russia is crippled for multiple generations, if not permanently.

Russian MoD statement says the Moskva is still afloat and will be towed to port. I guess we'll have to wait for satellite imagery in the coming hours/days to see if this is true or not.

LMCane said:

---

Captain Positivity said:

---

One of the things to remember is that the Russian cruiser Moskva carries 16 × P-500 Bazalt ASMs in external launch tubes. Each weighs about 10,600lbs, and is made up of mostly explosive stuff. A hit to any of these units may cause some serious damage, or an "ammunition explosion" pic.twitter.com/PxL1Mus5wG

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 14, 2022

Was wondering what was in those tubes. Gees.

---

Hoping the Moskva's complement of choppers is at the bottom of the Black Sea as well.

---

I guess it's safe to assume that being the flagship, it had what was russkie naval elite personnel on there that a good portion were lost? I guess it's not like they have other cruisers to backfill on, maybe go grab a couple of oligarch yachts and paint Z's on the side.

Flipping through the news this morning makes it seem that US intelligence is telling US media that there may be a new surge in Kyiv soon

And yet you need to control the oceans. Ships can launch and operate drones themselves in both an offensive and defensive capacity and can be designed with defenses against such attacks…if prepared and well thought out. As long as you need ships to move cargo, something must escort and protect them.

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

---

LMCane said:

---

Captain Positivity said:

---

One of the things to remember is that the Russian cruiser Moskva carries 16 × P-500 Bazalt ASMs in external launch tubes. Each weighs about 10,600lbs, and is made up of mostly explosive stuff. A hit to any of these units may cause some serious damage, or an "ammunition explosion" pic.twitter.com/PxL1Mus5wG

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 14, 2022

Was wondering what was in those tubes. Gees.

---

Hoping the Moskva's complement of choppers is at the bottom of the Black Sea as well.

---

I guess it's safe to assume that being the flagship, it had what was russkie naval elite personnel on there that a good portion were lost? I guess it's not like they have other cruisers to backfill on, maybe go grab a couple of oligarch yachts and paint Z's on the side.

---

Unfortunately for them, the oligarchs keep their badass yachts in ports of places people actually want to be and those countries have already seized them lol. Another blow for the Russian Navy

The Russian MOD claims that the source of the fire on the Moskva has been isolated, ammunition explosions have stopped. https://t.co/kSOEgWELeQ

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 14, 2022

Charpie said:

---

Flipping through the news this morning makes it seem that US intelligence is telling US media that there may be a new surge in Kyiv soon

---

From where and with what troops?

UPDATE: Pentagon spokesman John Kirby just said on CNN that the warship Moskva is still afloat but clearly damaged. He said it remains unclear whether the damage was caused by Ukraine missile attack. Russia claims that a fire onboard caused ammunition to explode.

— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) April 14, 2022

According to early reports, the attack took place during a storm. This would have made flying difficult but also helps to conceal shore-based activity from observation. The Russians wouldn't have seen the preparations. /7

— ChrisO (@ChrisO_wiki) April 14, 2022

combat tactics

HTownAg98 said:

---

Charpie said:

---

Flipping through the news this morning makes it seem that US intelligence is telling US media that there may be a new surge in Kyiv soon

---

From where and with what troops?

---

I believe that what the analysts are actually predicting is TBM attacks on Kyiv to try and take out Zelenskyy and his staff. There's nothing left of the Russian Army capable to retaking the ground they retreated from in northern Ukraine. However, even non-nuclear TBM attacks on Kyiv seem to be difficult for Russia because their stocks are depleted. They will fire some missiles but I don't believe they have a lot of them left other than the boutique hypersonics.

I believe this pushes up the likelihood of an act of desperation such as employing a tactical nuke, not on Kyiv, but on the pocket of Ukrainian forces in the east. Of course, the Russian forces around the salient are not going to be thrilled about that and their willingness to obey their commanders after being flash blinded would be very suspect.

So do we know what artillery pieces were sent to Ukraine ?

Was the HIMARS system sent?

What's worse to Russians....ineptitude that caused a fire and significant damage on own ship or enemy damaged your ship in a war zone.

Apparently the enemy is worse.

fullback44 said:

---

Was the HIMARS system sent?

---

Doubtful IMO. Remembering the switchblade debate, NATO may be holding back on long range precision weapons. NATO has lots of conventional tools in their toolbox and they may be saving weapons like these in case Russia escalates.

wangus12 said:

---

RebelE Infantry said:

---

Sorry for raining on the sunken ship parade

---

At the end of the day, whether it was hit by Neptunes or it was an ammunition explosion, its a significant piece removed from the board. If they had to abandon her, its damaged enough that it probably will be in dry dock for a long period of time and I doubt the Russians can refit her quickly.

Still wish she was at the bottom of the Black though

---

Don't disagree with this one bit. Major blow to Russia. Shipwrights in Sevastopol certainly have their work cut out for them.

Update- ASB Military News (pro Russian independent account so grains of salt and whatnot) are reporting that the Moskva reached Sevastopol under her own power.

Not sure I buy it given that Russian MoD reported evacuation of the crew. Satellite imagery should shed some light on this in the next day or so.

RebelE Infantry said:

---

Sorry for raining on the sunken ship parade

---

The Ukes attacked the flagship of the Russian Navy.
That is highly embarrassing for the Russians *at best*.

The Slava is a large ship, so it wouldn't surprise me that 2 neptunes wouldn't sink it, but that's absolutely horrendous optics for the Russians. If there was an onboard fire, and there were ammunition explosions, that ship is stricken, even if they tow it back to port.

Fire again!

RebelE Infantry said:

---

Update- ASB Military News (pro Russian independent account so grains of salt and whatnot) are reporting that the Moskva reached Sevastopol under her own power.

Not sure I buy it given that Russian MoD reported evacuation of the crew. Satellite imagery should shed some light on this in the next day or so.

---

Pentagon also reporting she's under her own power-

❗️The Pentagon confirms at least one powerful explosion on the cruiser "#Moskva" but does not yet know what caused it John Kirby told CNN in a commentary.#Washington also believes that cruiser was able to make its way to #Sevastopol for repairs after all https://t.co/tlp7io4F16

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) April 14, 2022

wangus12 said:

---

RebelE Infantry said:

---

Sorry for raining on the sunken ship parade

---

At the end of the day, whether it was hit by Neptunes or it was an ammunition explosion, its a significant piece removed from the board. If they had to abandon her, its damaged enough that it probably will be in dry dock for a long period of time and I doubt the Russians can refit her quickly.

Still wish she was at the bottom of the Black though

---

And how much of what they might need to replace on her comes from countries now embargoing Russia?