***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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aezmvp said:

BattleGrackle said:

Who is carrying this stolen mail. Nothing Should be going out of the country in wartime.
Dude even US troops did this from Europe. This isn't a shock. It's just part of war.


As well as Iraq too …
Edit: in no way does this justify what is happening.
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Apparently a few thousand dead civilians can speed things up significantly. Funny how things speed up when people in certain positions start to realize that this will get hung around their necks like a dead albatross.

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Rossticus said:

Apparently a few thousand dead civilians can speed things up significantly. Funny how things speed up when people in certain positions start to realize that this will get hung around their necks like a dead albatross.


No MiGs though. That would be too much.
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Rossticus said:

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Unfortunately, staff removed it. It's important to make sure these things are documented and that people understand the brutality of war (especially the Russian kind). I don't know what it was, but I doubt it was anything warm and fuzzy.

Speaking of horrific actions by the Russians, what realistically will happen to any of the Russian brass or even Putin himself after this, assuming they end up with little to no gains? I can't imagine Putin would get any warm welcomes in any international events. I also wonder if any of the backlash will eventually have any effect on their tactics, though I don't think we see any evidence of that as of yet.

It's just bizarre that Russia would do some of the things they're doing in an age of instant documentation and dissemination. Did none of them think that footage would immediately get out? How is a country with supposedly vaunted information warfare capabilities failing so much at the information war?


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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1510370003887009799.html


These are crimes against humanity. Pure and simple.
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MeatDr said:


Ukes better be ready for the Donbas offensive. It's going to be intense. From the Speak the Truth videos, it looks like they have a lot of people there. It would be nice if they were able to hold Izyum or take it back. Same with Kherson down in the southern portion.
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MeatDr said:




Whoever it is better hope they are allowed to stay in a bunker in Moscow. If they get any closer to Ukraine they'll be in the ground by the end of the month
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We all knew the Russian scum were likely to do this, but still it's absolutely revolting
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MeatDr said:




The world should make clear that anyone in charge of the Russian invasion will be investigated and if proven, trued as a war criminal.
Seven and three are ten, not only now, but forever. There has never been a time when seven and three were not ten, nor will there ever be a time when they are not ten. Therefore, I have said that the truth of number is incorruptible and common to all who think. — St. Augustine
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Just heard that Biden has reached out to Republican leadership to issue a coordinated, joint, bipartisan, apolitical statement/response to recent developments.

US Intel has confirmed that the order for recent Russian military atrocities originated directly from the top of Russian government, blessed by Vlad. Intel has been shared with gang of 8 regarding literal dedicated "death squads".

We'll see where this all leads and what materializes.
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How are you going to get at them in order to put them on trial?
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Rossticus said:

Just heard that Biden has reached out to Republican leadership to issue a coordinated, joint, bipartisan, apolitical statement/response to recent developments.

US Intel has confirmed that the order for recent Russian military atrocities originated directly from the top of Russian government, blessed by Vlad.

We'll see where this all leads and what materializes.

I dont know what took so long. I'm not in favor of troops on the ground but give them all they need. They have shown the hearts of lions, give them them the meat they need to survive.
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Waffledynamics said:

MeatDr said:


Ukes better be ready for the Donbas offensive. It's going to be intense. From the Speak the Truth videos, it looks like they have a lot of people there. It would be nice if they were able to hold Izyum or take it back. Same with Kherson down in the southern portion.
It's now a race to see which side can more quickly switch forces to reinforce in the east and south of Ukraine.

Ukraine has to recapture its southern coast along the Sea of Azov if it is to at least regain the territorial status quo from before the invasion.



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Rossticus said:

Just heard that Biden has reached out to Republican leadership to issue a coordinated, joint, bipartisan, apolitical statement/response to recent developments.

US Intel has confirmed that the order for recent Russian military atrocities originated directly from the top of Russian government, blessed by Vlad. Intel has been shared with gang of 8 regarding literal dedicated "death squads".

We'll see where this all leads and what materializes.
Wonder if this was what Rubio's cryptic tweets were about weeks ago?
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They've had intel pointing to it for weeks (has been part of Russia's gameplan from the jump to sow chaos and fear) but compromised Russian comms plus recent proof have wrapped it all up with a nasty little bow.
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The best thing to do, instead of talk about war crimes, is to do the necessary actions, to prevent them from happening any further in Ukraine right now.

This is like a murder going on in the neighbors house, but lets not respond, even after multiple calls for help, until the thug goes home, where we can call him a criminal and ask him to come to trial, while we pay to have the cities rebuilt, so those tragically killed will be easier to mourn.
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Rossticus said:

How are you going to get at them in order to put them on trial?


You probably can't unless the regime changes and they are handed over. But it brings more pressure.
Seven and three are ten, not only now, but forever. There has never been a time when seven and three were not ten, nor will there ever be a time when they are not ten. Therefore, I have said that the truth of number is incorruptible and common to all who think. — St. Augustine
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Rossticus said:

How are you going to get at them in order to put them on trial?
Israel has already set the example. Tried many Nazi'e in absentia then wacked their asses where ever they found them.

If I am the Ukes I begin searching for the smartest, meanest, most dedicated badasses to begin the training and education to fulfill this long on going mission.
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Unrolled: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1510294004356759553.html
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I would love to see us tell them we are not going to allow war crimes to continue and just start blasting every Russian column that crosses the border with drones and guided missiles. Tell the Russians it is Ukrainians piloting drones we gave them.
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lb3 said:

aggiehawg said:

PJYoung said:

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Rossticus said:

Something between Bosnia and WW2. You have to wonder how history will view this a generation from now.
Russians will be the new Nazis in committing genocide in the 21st Century, like the Germans were in the 20th.

And by genocide, I'll also include the people who die by starving through food shortages. All because Putin is a bad actor who is mentally unstable.


This can't happen without a lot of Russians supporting it. That country has a very outsized view of its place in history.
They always have that view. They are Soviets. St. Petersburg is likely the only Western leaning city now. Outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg, most of Russia is backwards. Third world.

It's time for Russia The Current Russian Regime to be ground into dust and scattered to the wind and removed then replaced with a Constitutional Republic .

St. Petersburg and surrounding region become would obviously be a viable European state but the rest is harder to draw. Moscow would have to be the center of another country but would need to be land locked and not allowed to reach to the Black Sea.

Looking at a map, it's hard to see natural dividing lines for 6+/- viable states:

Fixed it for you !!

Good thing our governments aren't thinking like this. Nothing would get the average Russian from lukewarm to hating Putin to rallying to sign up for the Russian army with fervent patriotism, than pulling a stunt like this.

The Average Russian Hated Stalin in 1939 and by 1943 those same Russians began calling WW2 the "Great Patriotic war" because the Nazi's wanted to erase the Russian nation and people.
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Tweets omitted to avoid graphic video. Look to unroll for full thread. Thread makes an interesting point.







Unroll: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1510440549433720833.html
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All conscious humans witnessing these abominations will carry this pain within them for decades. Still we collectively carry the sorrows of our fathers and grandfathers.

We have a dark side within us that must be conquered. Failure to do so means failure for the genus Homo.
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F it. Give Ukrainians the fancy ground missile air defense systems. If russia wants to target them so be it. But what would their counter be?,

Bomb USA foreign airbases? NATO response is triggered...
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UN inspectors and other world health professionals need to be in Bucha and surrounding areas yesterday to get full documentation of what occurred. We know atrocities happened. The world knows it. But there still needs to be a third party, first hand, documented mission to record this to remove the biased claims. For future Russian generations. Russia needs to be broken of their views of their roles in this world. They need to know they are the bad guys and always have been. (If possible of course, big ask)
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Aint that the truth
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Eliminatus said:

UN inspectors and other world health professionals need to be in Bucha and surrounding areas yesterday to get full documentation of what occurred. We know atrocities happened. The world knows it. But there still needs to be a third party, first hand, documented mission to record this to remove the biased claims. For future Russian generations. Russia needs to be broken of their views of their roles in this world. They need to know they are the bad guys and always have been. (If possible of course, big ask)
Russia is on the security council. Good luck doing anything to them.
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Rossticus said:




This vid filled w mostly canned content is stating the last helo shot down was the first starstreak kill. Hopefully one of many.

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And don't expect any cooperation from Hungary unless Orban loses the upcoming election.
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