***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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In reply to Rossticus • 10:30p, 3/25/22
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They need to stop posting this. Yesterday the WSJ mentioned this town and the dates of future deliveries.

I'm all for media transparency and think there needs to be more in the media, but when discussing when aid is being delivered this shouldn't be discussed until after all deliveries have been made and that location is no longer the gathering point of aide
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In reply to neAGle96 • 10:33p, 3/25/22
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To be fair POTUS just landed there and there are patriot defense systems there. I don't believe anyone is concerned.
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10:43p, 3/25/22
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That Twitter account is using information from a public flight tracking website. The planes have their transponders on. Nothing they are doing is secret. If they don't want to be publicly tracked, they turn their transponders off.

I'm pretty sure the Russians, even as dumb as they have been during much of this war, know we have transport planes flying in and out of that airport. It isn't rocket science.
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In reply to neAGle96 • 10:50p, 3/25/22
If they have their transponders on then they don't care. It's publicly available info that everyone in the world is able to view. As far as location of shipments, if they wanted to keep it secret, it would be. The fact that some things are visible and disclosed isn't necessarily an indication that all things are.
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In reply to neAGle96 • 10:55p, 3/25/22
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I get the angst, but you need to remember that there's a whole lot more stuff that's happening. Consider that post fluff. I swear to you that military ops are working outside the public schedule and nothing happens "according to the MSM schedule.
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In reply to Eliminatus • 10:56p, 3/25/22
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one MEEN Ag said:
aggiehawg said:
Rossticus said:
Whoa.

Rescue by sea? France, Turkey and Greece?
France is gonna play a game of chicken with Putin. Sink a french warship on a humanitarian mission and see what happens.
I have seen a few snippets of Macron now over past couple of weeks. The man is PISSED about what is happening in Ukraine. Almost like he is taking it personally. His rhetoric as of late is basically that France has the largest and best trained military in Europe and it NEEDS to be doing something. That is my take from his verbiage and body language at least. I approve.

And the Poles, more than anyone else not in Ukraine right now, know EXACTLY what is at stake here. They are surging their military size and I cannot imagine anyone being more deadly serious about it than them at the moment. Between their own tortured history with Russia, they are receiving huge swathes of the displaced Ukes into their country. They are seeing with their own eyes the fallout of what a Russian madman is capable of. Not that they really needed a reminder.

We have been saying for a long time that Europe needs to fix this Europe problem. Well, they just may end up doing that after all. Especially if we guarantee protection from retaliatory strikes. At this point, I don't doubt that there will be involvement and probably sooner rather than later.


The Baltic states are also vociferously endorsing the idea of intervention; probably because their memories of Russian occupation are still fresh.

All three of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were independent states that were absorbed by the Soviets in 1939, which caused these states to greet the German invaders in 1941 as liberators. When the Soviets retook them in 1944-45, the outrage was tangible. The partisan movement in Lithuania necessitated the deployment of >100,000 Soviet occupation troops, and if you applied the same ratio of citizens-to-partisans that the Lithuanians had in 1946-47 to the US population, we'd have 50 million partisans. They truly hate the Russians.
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11:12p, 3/25/22
feed suggests Shoigu had a heart attack...real medical or figurative idk...

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In reply to OKC~Ag • 11:20p, 3/25/22
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Drug induced heart attack from the FSB
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In reply to OKC~Ag • 11:24p, 3/25/22
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This was a subtweet. Chart is pretty interesting.

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11:34p, 3/25/22
Edit: can't get the tweet to post independently. Prior tweet in the thread has a bad word and I don't want a ban.
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In reply to MeatDr • 11:39p, 3/25/22
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I call BS
It doesn't take the Russian long to teach the crews to stay inside their armored coffins until they become Javellin food
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In reply to OKC~Ag • 11:41p, 3/25/22
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feed suggests Shoigu had a heart attack...real medical or figurative idk...


The cause of death is always a heart attack. Even if he took a bullet to the head, his heart stopped beating when it ran out of blood.


I would love to be a fly on the wall right now in the Kremlin. That has to be a major crap show right now.
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In reply to techno-ag • 11:51p, 3/25/22
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Saw military trucks on 6 today in BCS, presumably from Ft. Hood headed to port. Probably means little but I haven't seen that since the last Gulf War.


Or more likely a random national guard training convoy.
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In reply to Rossticus • 11:53p, 3/25/22
It seems significant Russian populace are warmongers..

russian protesters in general are the minority...

younger russian with western taste/talent, credentials, and options likely fled...brain drain...

only remaining are old warmongers...
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12:52a, 3/26/22
I hate that they keep calling it "Peace Keeping". There is no peace to keep. That just sounds less risky. It's "Peace Making" if anyone goes in and does anything other than humanitarian aid delivery.

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12:53a, 3/26/22
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12:55a, 3/26/22
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Disregard. Not corroborated.
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2:08a, 3/26/22
Lithuania "triggering" implementation of some firearm perks for trained members of their population and Americans doing American things.

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In reply to Rossticus • 2:55a, 3/26/22
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Rossticus said:
I hate that they keep calling it "Peace Keeping". There is no peace to keep. That just sounds less risky. It's "Peace Making" if anyone goes in and does anything other than humanitarian aid delivery.


I don't think it matters how many NATO members support the idea, it only matters what Putin thinks. And I can't imagine a scenario where he would be cool with the introduction of NATO troops into Ukraine. The fear of that very scenario is what drove him to this invasion in the first place.
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This is a pretty big one. I honestly doubt it was the tweets from US officials saying that shipments were on the way. Not nearly enough detail in them, but it fosters an air of complacency which builds and lets others think it is ok to let things slip. Those build and build and a picture can be painted of what to look for and where.

OPSEC is a huge thing in war and the West has not proven up to task in several regards. We need to do better. Much better.

Loose lips sink ships. This has been said for generations and generations but we always need reminders and discipline. The above is extremely disappointing.
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In reply to pagerman @ work • 5:33a, 3/26/22
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Rossticus said:
I hate that they keep calling it "Peace Keeping". There is no peace to keep. That just sounds less risky. It's "Peace Making" if anyone goes in and does anything other than humanitarian aid delivery.


I don't think it matters how many NATO members support the idea, it only matters what Putin thinks. And I can't imagine a scenario where he would be cool with the introduction of NATO troops into Ukraine. The fear of that very scenario is what drove him to this invasion in the first place.


Fear of NATO expansion may have played a big role in the invasion.

But Putin's motivation has be primarily restoration of the Soviet Union. He's been talking about this for years, and he's been very explicit, and just a few years before he took Crimea, he called the fall of the Soviet Union the greatest tragedy of the 21th century and he longed for it to be restored. He's been blaming NATO more lately because that offers Putin some level of logic behind being proactive militarily.

NATO expansion was, I'm sure, a driver to invade, but only because it would have made restoring the USSR much more difficult.

Just my two cents
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In reply to BonsaiGreen • 6:33a, 3/26/22
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pagerman @ work said:
Rossticus said:
I hate that they keep calling it "Peace Keeping". There is no peace to keep. That just sounds less risky. It's "Peace Making" if anyone goes in and does anything other than humanitarian aid delivery.


I don't think it matters how many NATO members support the idea, it only matters what Putin thinks. And I can't imagine a scenario where he would be cool with the introduction of NATO troops into Ukraine. The fear of that very scenario is what drove him to this invasion in the first place.


Fear of NATO expansion may have played a big role in the invasion.

But Putin's motivation has be primarily restoration of the Soviet Union. Russian Empire He's been talking about this for years, and he's been very explicit, and just a few years before he took Crimea, he called the fall of the Soviet Union the greatest tragedy of the 21th 20th century and he longed for it to be restored. He's been blaming NATO more lately because that offers Putin some level of logic behind being proactive militarily.

NATO expansion was, I'm sure, a driver to invade, but only because it would have made restoring the USSR Russian Empire much more difficult.

Just my two cents
FIFY. I think its important to understand Putin is NOT a communist he is a Russian Nationalist. And yes he was KGB but renounced Bolsheviki philosophy in the 1990's. And yes he did say what you quoted. but not in the context of your post.

Before the USSR totally blew apart there was a plan for 9 of the former Soviet Republics to stay together as a NONCOMMUNIST state. Due to the failed Commie coup that plan died. That is what Putin referred too.

Territorial ambitions were one of the few ideological characteristics the commies and Putin shared. Putin is more of a scum bag fascist crime boss than a commie party boss. Both are awful
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In reply to ttu_85 • 7:01a, 3/26/22
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BonsaiGreen said:
pagerman @ work said:
Rossticus said:
I hate that they keep calling it "Peace Keeping". There is no peace to keep. That just sounds less risky. It's "Peace Making" if anyone goes in and does anything other than humanitarian aid delivery.


I don't think it matters how many NATO members support the idea, it only matters what Putin thinks. And I can't imagine a scenario where he would be cool with the introduction of NATO troops into Ukraine. The fear of that very scenario is what drove him to this invasion in the first place.


Fear of NATO expansion may have played a big role in the invasion.

But Putin's motivation has be primarily restoration of the Soviet Union. Russian Empire He's been talking about this for years, and he's been very explicit, and just a few years before he took Crimea, he called the fall of the Soviet Union the greatest tragedy of the 21th 20th century and he longed for it to be restored. He's been blaming NATO more lately because that offers Putin some level of logic behind being proactive militarily.

NATO expansion was, I'm sure, a driver to invade, but only because it would have made restoring the USSR Russian Empire much more difficult.

Just my two cents
FIFY. I think its important to understand Putin is NOT a communist he is a Russian Nationalist. And yes he was KGB but renounced Bolsheviki philosophy in the 1990's. And yes he did say what you quoted. but not in the context of your post.

Before the USSR totally blew apart there was a plan for 9 of the former Soviet Republics to stay together as a NONCOMMUNIST state. Due to the failed Commie coup that plan died. That is what Putin referred too.

Territorial ambitions were one of the few ideological characteristics the commies and Putin shared. Putin is more of a scum bag fascist crime boss than a commie party boss. Both are awful


Perfect description of Putin.
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This is older news from a couple days ago, so apologies if it's already been posted, but I don't remember seeing it. The soldiers from Snake Island plus 19 civilian Ukrainian sailors have been exchanged for 11 sailors on the sunken Russian Alligator ship.
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Looks like the Ukrainians are about to de-nazify Sevastopol

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In reply to pagerman @ work • 7:07a, 3/26/22
pagerman @ work said:
Rossticus said:
I hate that they keep calling it "Peace Keeping". There is no peace to keep. That just sounds less risky. It's "Peace Making" if anyone goes in and does anything other than humanitarian aid delivery.


I don't think it matters how many NATO members support the idea, it only matters what Putin thinks. And I can't imagine a scenario where he would be cool with the introduction of NATO troops into Ukraine. The fear of that very scenario is what drove him to this invasion in the first place.


It's becoming very clear that unless Putin is going to is nukes worldwide, his rag-tag excuse for an army can't handle their own against a significantly smaller force; and because of both things, NATO may become less concerned about what he thinks and start doing what pretty much the majority of Americans at least are thinking - kick his ass out of Ukraine.
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