My concern is that by spending ordinance on cities, they are spending it on fighting men and, through them, the equipment that those men would operate. The Russian tactic is to break the Ukrainians' will through this devastation. Are we to assume the Uke soldiers won't care?Nagler said:Waffledynamics said:
Is it just me, or are we seeing less Ukrainian destruction of Russian artillery? Destroying those would be key to stopping Russia's cowardly strategy of shelling cities.
Militarily I'm not sure they're as concerned with them shelling cities. It sucks but if they're spending ordinance on cities they're not spending it on fighting men and equipment.
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They do care, but if I can disrupt 10 artillery positions by disrupting 1 resupply convoy, I'm hitting the convoy.Waffledynamics said:My concern is that by spending ordinance on cities, they are spending it on fighting men and, through them, the equipment that those men would operate. The Russian tactic is to break the Ukrainians' will through this devastation. Are we to assume the Uke soldiers won't care?Nagler said:Waffledynamics said:
Is it just me, or are we seeing less Ukrainian destruction of Russian artillery? Destroying those would be key to stopping Russia's cowardly strategy of shelling cities.
Militarily I'm not sure they're as concerned with them shelling cities. It sucks but if they're spending ordinance on cities they're not spending it on fighting men and equipment.
That agreement actually expired and Ukraine didn't renew it.ttu_85 said:Didn't Russia and the Clinton Administration "guarantee Ukraine's security and sovereignty" in the late 1990's If Ukraine would to give its Soviet era nukes to Russia. See how well that worked out.Agthatbuilds said:BREAKING: Zelenskyy says he’s prepared to discuss a commitment from Ukraine not to seek NATO membership in exchange for a cease-fire, the withdrawal of Russian troops and a guarantee of Ukraine’s security. - AP
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) March 22, 2022
Russia has no intention of honoring its agreements.
Ukraine - Reports the Mariupol airport was vacated by Ukrainian troops a few days ago to reinforce eastern Primord’kyi. Russian forces moved into there without a fight. Russian Marines from 810th pushing east from there into city now. https://t.co/ZIv2YUswqC
— The Cavell Group (@TCG_CrisisRisks) March 22, 2022
Ukraine - Heavy fighting reported, Bucha, Vorzel and Dibrova northwest of Kyiv. Reports of fast air up over the far west of the city.
— The Cavell Group (@TCG_CrisisRisks) March 22, 2022
For the purposes of this map, I have defined firm control as areas where there is the concentration or forward deployment of forces such that the enemy would not be able to gather or manoeuvre combat-scale units (say a company or more) without detection and destruction.
— Nathan Ruser (@Nrg8000) March 22, 2022
I didn't think anything out of the ordinary for that flight path.Spinnaker96 said:
Interesting to me as it appears that the C5 went out of its way to not overfly any country except Denmark.
At the moment though it must be show of force day because there are over 160 military aircraft showing right now all over Europe.
Ukrainian tanks engaging Russian forces in Mariupol.🇺🇦
— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) March 22, 2022
The fact Ukrainian armour is still functional and able to operate pretty openly indicates the city is still some way off being taken by the Russians. pic.twitter.com/TA1B8ZhLrt
Not exactly. The Budapest Memorandum was executed as one in a series of agreements. Some of the other agreements expired but in 2009 both Russia and the US reaffirmed the Budapest Agreement would remain in effect.mts6175 said:That agreement actually expired and Ukraine didn't renew it.ttu_85 said:Didn't Russia and the Clinton Administration "guarantee Ukraine's security and sovereignty" in the late 1990's If Ukraine would to give its Soviet era nukes to Russia. See how well that worked out.Agthatbuilds said:BREAKING: Zelenskyy says he’s prepared to discuss a commitment from Ukraine not to seek NATO membership in exchange for a cease-fire, the withdrawal of Russian troops and a guarantee of Ukraine’s security. - AP
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) March 22, 2022
Russia has no intention of honoring its agreements.
However, after the Maidan Revolution, Putin reneged on the agreement saying Russia had never had any agreement with the "new state" that resulted from the revolution, removing Yanukovych in early 2014.
IOW, once the Russian friendly Yanukovych was deposed, Putin refused to honor any past agreements with Ukraine. So he annexed Crimea a few months later.
I'm not sure I could realistically comprehend sitting in my home and watching tanks fire on the enemy from what is essentially my front yard. Just boggles the mind.TRM said:Ukrainian tanks engaging Russian forces in Mariupol.🇺🇦
— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) March 22, 2022
The fact Ukrainian armour is still functional and able to operate pretty openly indicates the city is still some way off being taken by the Russians. pic.twitter.com/TA1B8ZhLrt
This would be really big, and a sign that Russia already started to over extend while attacking from the North of Kyiv. https://t.co/GD6SykuUZX
— The Intel Hub (@The_IntelHub) March 22, 2022
The Ukes must have had some serious stockpiles there for them to be operating like this. The city's been cut off for weeks.TRM said:Ukrainian tanks engaging Russian forces in Mariupol.🇺🇦
— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) March 22, 2022
The fact Ukrainian armour is still functional and able to operate pretty openly indicates the city is still some way off being taken by the Russians. pic.twitter.com/TA1B8ZhLrt
Do we really know if this is new footage, or could it be old?
According to unconfirmed but realistic looking reports, Russian troops have got surrounded in Bucha, Irpin and Hostomel area near Kyiv, cut from supplies. If true - the biggest defeat of a Russian army until now, and Ukraine needs to start worrying about too many POWs. pic.twitter.com/8t10oZIk7d
— Sergej Sumlenny (@sumlenny) March 22, 2022
Handling large numbers of Russian POWs. Not a logistics problem most would have foreseen at this point.
Could be old. Just came across it.
New: Belarus could "soon" join war in Ukraine, US/NATO officials say,
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) March 22, 2022
and is already taking steps to do so. “Putin needs support. Anything would help,” said one official. Belarusian opposition tells me combat units are ready as soon as next few days, with 1000s prepared to deploy
Pretty sure the polish would be pleased to provide guest services.VaultingChemist said:According to unconfirmed but realistic looking reports, Russian troops have got surrounded in Bucha, Irpin and Hostomel area near Kyiv, cut from supplies. If true - the biggest defeat of a Russian army until now, and Ukraine needs to start worrying about too many POWs. pic.twitter.com/8t10oZIk7d
— Sergej Sumlenny (@sumlenny) March 22, 2022
Handling large numbers of Russian POWs. Not a logistics problem most would have foreseen at this point.
Ukrainian forces retake Kiev suburb. FIGHTING
"Early Tuesday, Ukrainian troops drove Russian forces out of the Kyiv suburb of Makariv after a fierce battle, Ukraine's Defense Ministry said. The regained territory allowed Ukrainian forces to retake control of a key highway and block Russian troops from surrounding Kyiv from the northwest."
"Early Tuesday, Ukrainian troops drove Russian forces out of the Kyiv suburb of Makariv after a fierce battle, Ukraine's Defense Ministry said. The regained territory allowed Ukrainian forces to retake control of a key highway and block Russian troops from surrounding Kyiv from the northwest."
Colonel General Mikhail #Mizintsev, who previously headed the #Russian military operation in #Syria, is personally in charge of the siege of #Mariupol. This was reported by Sergei #Bratchuk, the spokesman of the operative headquarters of the #Odesa administration. pic.twitter.com/Hh5O3FdPTx
— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 22, 2022
Seems like a l lot of the shelling of coastal cities is coming from Russian ships. Any kind of anti-ship weapons that could be deployed to counter that?
TRM said:New: Belarus could "soon" join war in Ukraine, US/NATO officials say,
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) March 22, 2022
and is already taking steps to do so. “Putin needs support. Anything would help,” said one official. Belarusian opposition tells me combat units are ready as soon as next few days, with 1000s prepared to deploy
This seems like a move that could lead to internal strife in Belarus?
Already evidence that some of their military leaders oppose involvement, not to mention the railroad workers turned saboteurs.
That is one bad azz soccer mom right there....driving her Aveo into battle!74OA said:
#Ukraine: We obtained video that shows that the Azov claim of a Russian Project 03160 "Raptor" patrol boat being struck near #Mariupol is accurate, with 2x 9M113 ATGM being fired, 1 successful hit.
— 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) March 22, 2022
According to Ru sources, the boat was put out of action and had to be towed away. pic.twitter.com/irgYo97IAJ
Is there a submarine equivalent of the UAVs we've been giving Ukraine?
Neptune anti ship missile..Ogre09 said:
Seems like a l lot of the shelling of coastal cities is coming from Russian ships. Any kind of anti-ship weapons that could be deployed to counter that?
Not quite up to the task as a mini van...but desperate times...Burrus86 said:That is one bad azz soccer mom right there....driving her Aveo into battle!74OA said:
They've been saying this for 2 weeks now. I feel like Belarus is gonna end up in civil war if they do push into Ukraine.TRM said:New: Belarus could "soon" join war in Ukraine, US/NATO officials say,
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) March 22, 2022
and is already taking steps to do so. “Putin needs support. Anything would help,” said one official. Belarusian opposition tells me combat units are ready as soon as next few days, with 1000s prepared to deploy
More strategic fallout from the invasion of Ukraine.
Unintended consequences are in full play.
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Unintended consequences are in full play.
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NEW: Russia's paramilitary Wagner Group is active in Ukraine, largely in the Donbas: senior U.S. defense official.
— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) March 22, 2022
There are no indications of foreign fighters coming into Ukraine from elsewhere, including Syria, the official said.
NEW: Russia continues to talk about using chemical and biological weapons in Ukraine, but U.S. has no indications of an imminent attack: senior U.S. defense official.
— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) March 22, 2022
U.S. is monitoring 🇷🇺 stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons for movements into 🇺🇦, the official said.
Not sure Putin counted on that.Quote:
Germany, Belgium, Romania, Italy, Poland, Norway and Sweden have all pledged to increase defense spending since Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
The first complete Neptune battalion was not scheduled to be ready for service until April.
It's a new system. The war may have come too early for it to be effective.
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Didn't I see here that Bealarus' army is about 40,000 soldiers?wangus12 said:They've been saying this for 2 weeks now. I feel like Belarus is gonna end up in civil war if they do push into Ukraine.TRM said:New: Belarus could "soon" join war in Ukraine, US/NATO officials say,
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) March 22, 2022
and is already taking steps to do so. “Putin needs support. Anything would help,” said one official. Belarusian opposition tells me combat units are ready as soon as next few days, with 1000s prepared to deploy
Lukashenko better not send too many to Ukraine, he's going to need more at home to stay in power.
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First he lost control of the narrative, now he has lost control of the consequences.aggiehawg said:Not sure Putin counted on that.Quote:
Germany, Belgium, Romania, Italy, Poland, Norway and Sweden have all pledged to increase defense spending since Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Apparently Russia is trying to rebuild the destroyed 200th Separate motorized brigade at Petsamo.
— Petri Mäkelä (@pmakela1) March 22, 2022
Could be to plug the gaps in the north if they feed the 80th Brigade to the meat grinder https://t.co/pMEl0tNS2P
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