***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Why is a that such a rare tank? Is it new?
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Rossticus said:


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aggiehawg said:

Why is a that such a rare tank? Is it new?


"Commander" variant of the T-80U. Equipped with Shtora-1 APS (electro-optical active protection system or suite for tanks, designed to disrupt the laser designator and laser rangefinders of incoming anti-tank guided missiles.) and thermal imaging night sight TO1-PO2T (detection range / target classification range = 6,400/4,600 meters at night).

Apparently large scale production of this variant has yet to ramp up and recent sanctions on technology used for the listed upgrades now make it unlikely that it ever will.
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74OA said:

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Hope they enjoyed their brief ownership of that Mercedes before getting wacked.
/End of Message
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aggiehawg said:

Why is a that such a rare tank? Is it new?


It's an upgraded T-80. The T-80U is an upgraded version with thermal/NV sights and a missile system. The UK is a command version with better sights and range finding. Probably meant as the commander's version to lead the slightly less well equipped tanks around it.
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Thanks.
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Is he with them? Or is he dead?
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aggiehawg said:

Is he with them? Or is he dead?


My belief is that he wasn't with them in-country.
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Would be huge if he was killed, no way to hide it. The Ukrainians would be shouting it from the rooftops
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74OA said:

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Hope they enjoyed their brief ownership of that Mercedes before getting wacked.
Strong early message to other potential collaborators.
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Rossticus said:

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Is he with them? Or is he dead?


My belief is that he wasn't with them in-country.
Yes he was. Link
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aggiehawg said:

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Is he with them? Or is he dead?


My belief is that he wasn't with them in-country.
Yes he was. Link


I believe that right after he claimed that, someone found a photo he'd posted to social media within the past 24 hours showing he, his mother, and some others out on the town somewhere in Russia.
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Russia allows the citizens to leave and then flattens the city. That is their MO.

They have lost 1000s of troops and equipment but they are not wanting to slaughter the citizens.


That is the opposite of the Russian MO. They rubbled Grozny without letting the population escape. They did the same to Aleppo.

The reason that the 'official ' UN total is 902 civilian deaths is because of the hundreds of blue helmet observers spread across Kharkiv, Mariupol, Sumy, Gostomel, Mykolaiv, and the rest of Ukraine. If you haven't seen them in the UN observers in the thousands of eye witness videos from the battlefield well, that's the point. They aren't there.
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100%. They're targeting individual civilians, targeting civilian vehicles, targeting apartment buildings, targeting refugee corridors, targeting fleeing civilians, targeting civilian shelters, denying access of medical aid and humanitarian aid to civilians.

Russians are not only trying to slaughter civilians, they ARE slaughtering civilians.
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Yeah. The Uke trench reference was to his comment of sophisticated and interconnected trenches which we have previously seen.
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Player To Be Named Later said:

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Hope they enjoyed their brief ownership of that Mercedes before getting wacked.


You hate to see it.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Any word on Poland mobilizing?
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How 1939 of her.
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GAC06 said:

Any word on Poland mobilizing?


Everyone is keeping their poker face on but based on increased air defense deployments, redeployment of U.S. armor, and the increasing public push of eastern flank countries to put an end to this, I wouldn't be surprised with development toward that end following the upcoming NATO powwow.

Probably wholly dependent on US/UK/French commitment to defensive combat role within the respective mobilizing countries should Russia or Belarus launch attacks on their turf.
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Rossticus said:

GAC06 said:

Any word on Poland mobilizing?


Everyone is keeping their poker face on but based on increased air defense deployments, redeployment of U.S. armor, and the increasing public push of eastern flank countries to put an end to this, I wouldn't be surprised with development toward that end following the upcoming NATO powwow.

Probably wholly dependent on US/UK/French commitment to defensive combat role within the respective mobilizing countries should Russia or Belarus launch attacks on their turf.

We aren't seeing the rush and support over to Europe as it was in the Cold War, but I would eat my shoe AND your shoe if we are not quietly staging and ramping up at least some assets in the area, aside from the ones we know of. Especially our intel. The US has gotten pretty good at projecting strength without official "organized" units over the last ten years or so. Our wargamers and planners probably have not gotten much sleep I would think as well. If nothing else, it is a damn good exercise.
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Ultimatums? Sounds to me like Putin has gotten some very bad news.

ETA: Escalate to de-escalate?
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Why do we keep saying what we will "not" do???? We should say " All options are on the table, and that depends on what Russia does".
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What am I looking at? Anti missile defense?
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aggiehawg said:

What am I looking at? Anti missile defense?
that is my guess, but it looks like they are shooting at some sort of flare

alternative is... someone is playing BeatSaber.
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Rossticus said:




Putin has a plan for Ukraine and we see how well that's going. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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