***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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He said that the Russians are increasing their objectives without increasing support and thus, stretching resources. He couldn't comprehend the logic aside from taking one big, unbridle swing at Ukraine - which, again, seems desperate.
I'm not a tactician but that seems dumb as hell to me. You have a mission, you have a TOE based upon that mission. But then go in another direction without a TOE? Nor even the remote ability to fulfill one if you prepare one?
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Ukraine needs to get in the air fast. That alone would be a game changer.

The U.S. would wipe the floor with Russia. We'd own the skies from the start and every one of their armored vehicles would be destroyed in the first week alone. Russia is not prepared for any war much less neighboring Ukraine.
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I think the mindset for the Russians might be that the forces north and west of Kiev aren't adding anything to the fight just sitting there. In their mind they are willing to risk sending out those columns because it also means the Ukrainians also have to thin their lines in order to protect their flank, and if they get lucky and find a weak spot they will pour their troops there, and if they lose them than who cares.
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.-Thomas Paine
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Night vision making an appearance, on a machine gun. Sounds lethal.

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Do the Ukrainians have high altitude SAM missile batteries? With the Russkies switching to high altitude bombing with dumb bombs the shoulder launched missiles obviously won't help.

I read that Poland has some Patriot missiles I wonder if they can be sent to Ukraine but no idea how that works and if the Ukrainians could integrate those with their existing air defense.
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The su25 is the Russian a10.
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Not sure things are going to plan.
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Bloomberg reporting that Australia is investing $7.5b for a base for nuclear submarines because the Ukraine war will inevitably come to the Pacific.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-06/australia-to-build-new-7-4-billion-base-for-nuclear-submarines?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google
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The AGM-45 is a Vietnam war era weapon. Not sure why they are referencing that.

I wonder if the dearth of precision guided weapons is because the Russians don't have the microchips to replace the spent units.
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Dan Scott said:

Bloomberg reporting that Australia is investing $7.5b for a base for nuclear submarines because the Ukraine war will inevitably come to the Pacific.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-06/australia-to-build-new-7-4-billion-base-for-nuclear-submarines?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google
China will be happy to see this strategic development...
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Ag8556 said:

The AGM-45 is a Vietnam war era weapon. Not sure why they are referencing that.

I wonder if the dearth of precision guided weapons is because the Russians don't have the microchips to replace the spent units.


Comparison. What they have now might be comparable to what we had 50 years ago in terms of capability.
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Agthatbuilds said:

FJB said:





This might be the beginning of the feared escalation depending on how putin responds. He's already said he'd consider it an act of war.

He also said he considers the sanctions an act of war

He can say all he wants, but he if responds militarily, we're all in for a world of hurt.


I know Poland put out the rumors of them providing jets and airbase were false, and pretty sure that was like today.

Anyone know the timeline on that? Was that after this from Blinken?
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Ag8556 said:

The AGM-45 is a Vietnam war era weapon. Not sure why they are referencing that.

I wonder if the dearth of precision guided weapons is because the Russians don't have the microchips to replace the spent units.
Ghost weapons. Their stocks, even well before covid crap were being pilfered or falsely reported due to what always has happened under Marxist systems, lack of incentive for the work force. They get paid the same whether they actually manufacture stuff or not.

The readiness reports Putin has been given since 2000 are faked. Too much of it doesn't exist, in Russia and available for use there.

The pivot to using Syrian forces might have something to do with this. Does Putin believe that stuff is in Syria? Is that what he was told?
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Thinking about how this could go sideways. For example, if Russia's situation becomes more desperate ... Putin rolls the dice and launches cruise missiles into a Polish resupply base ... does NATO respond in kind (equivalency) or does NATO double down and take out a Russian asset twice as valuable? And so forth ...
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Dan Scott said:

Bloomberg reporting that Australia is investing $7.5b for a base for nuclear submarines because the Ukraine war will inevitably come to the Pacific.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-06/australia-to-build-new-7-4-billion-base-for-nuclear-submarines?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google


This has been planned for a while. Has less to do with Ukraine and more to do with long-term planning.
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benchmark said:

Thinking about how this could go sideways. For example, if Russia's situation becomes more desperate ... Putin rolls the dice and launches cruise missiles into a Polish resupply base ... does NATO respond in kind (equivalency) or does NATO double down and take out a Russian asset twice as valuable? And so forth ...
Get familiar with the term Suwalki Gap. That's the probably the next flashpoint.
Seven and three are ten, not only now, but forever. There has never been a time when seven and three were not ten, nor will there ever be a time when they are not ten. Therefore, I have said that the truth of number is incorruptible and common to all who think. — St. Augustine
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Pretty generic report. SIAP.

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bonfarr said:

Do the Ukrainians have high altitude SAM missile batteries? With the Russkies switching to high altitude bombing with dumb bombs the shoulder launched missiles obviously won't help.

I read that Poland has some Patriot missiles I wonder if they can be sent to Ukraine but no idea how that works and if the Ukrainians could integrate those with their existing air defense.


They had some S-300s (high altitude, long range) and some medium range (Buk, etc.). A few days into the war some of the S-300s were still operational, but not sure about now. Russia has had a hell of a time knocking out their mobile air defenses. They've also confiscated several Russian anti-air assets, which they may be able to use.

The Patriot is a completely different system than what they are used to operating and would require extensive training. Deployment of Patriot is not a simple task as it's a pretty complicated system.
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Demosthenes81 said:

benchmark said:

Thinking about how this could go sideways. For example, if Russia's situation becomes more desperate ... Putin rolls the dice and launches cruise missiles into a Polish resupply base ... does NATO respond in kind (equivalency) or does NATO double down and take out a Russian asset twice as valuable? And so forth ...
Get familiar with the term Suwalki Gap. That's the probably the next flashpoint.
Suwalki is very worrisome but probably not an immediate threat. Russia has it's hands full in Ukraine. IMO, the near term concern is another Putin miscalculation that escalates.
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Moldova is next. That's a near-certainty.

Next move probably involves a proxy, my guess is Serbia. Hungary has long teetered back and forth from Russian influence and NATO has already started efforts to solidify them. The wrong series of events could see them withdraw so the pathway to Slovenia and then most dangerously, a "neutral" Switzerland. Putin is an expert at political gamesmanship. This would effectively force NATO to go on the offensive which would "justify" the fear based offensive and lead the way to the use/positioning of tactical nuclear weapons deep in NATOs back yard.

Obviously that's total conjecture without any more info than anyone else has. All that being said, this whole thing has been a mess for Russia. They may not make it to Lviv, much less Geneva.
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Demosthenes81 said:

benchmark said:

Thinking about how this could go sideways. For example, if Russia's situation becomes more desperate ... Putin rolls the dice and launches cruise missiles into a Polish resupply base ... does NATO respond in kind (equivalency) or does NATO double down and take out a Russian asset twice as valuable? And so forth ...
Get familiar with the term Suwalki Gap. That's the probably the next flashpoint.



That explains all the attention by the global hawk and at times one of the awacs up there. IMO moldavo was next but given their challenges in UKR, I think he is thinking now outside the box and not sure what that is. Might be long range missiles into all the bridges & rail in west UKR coming from Poland to cut off supply and evacuation. It also forces the west to intensify.
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benchmark said:

Demosthenes81 said:

benchmark said:

Thinking about how this could go sideways. For example, if Russia's situation becomes more desperate ... Putin rolls the dice and launches cruise missiles into a Polish resupply base ... does NATO respond in kind (equivalency) or does NATO double down and take out a Russian asset twice as valuable? And so forth ...
Get familiar with the term Suwalki Gap. That's the probably the next flashpoint.
Suwalki is very worrisome but probably not an immediate threat. Russia has it's hands full in Ukraine. IMO, the near term concern is another Putin miscalculation that escalates.


Yes the land bridge to Kaliningrad is important. I felt the same way 12 days ago. Now I really don't.
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Another good thread from General Ryan

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Global Hawk long mission over Med...


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Just surreal and sad. It's an old Ukrainian folk song.
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Moonlight night

The night is so moonlit, so starry, so bright
There's so much light you could gather needles*
Come, my love, weary with toil
If just for one minute to the grove

Don't be afraid that you'll get your feet wet in the cold dew
I will carry you home, my dear one, I will carry you home
I will carry you home, my dear one, I will carry you home

Don't be afraid to get cold, honey
It's warm, there's neither wind nor clouds,
I will hold you close to my heart, which is as hot as flame
I will hold you close to my heart, which is as hot as flame

The grove is so beautiful, rays scattered all over it, it's as if it's dreaming or lost in its thoughts
Look, on that tall thin aspent a leaf is trembling so playfully.
The sky is deep, all covered in stars - oh this God-given beauty!
The fine dew under the poplars twinkles like pearls.
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:


Just surreal and sad.


That was beautiful and haunting at the same time.
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More fake news from Russia.
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