***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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More about the push northwest of Kyiv and the power plant.


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Throughout this conflict, there have been plenty of indications that the Ruskies' night combat capabilities are limited.

I think we are starting to see those thermal optics make a difference for Ukraine.
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I wonder if there is any actual intent to do an amphibious landing. Perhaps they unloaded in Crimea and have been sailing around as a diversion to try to tie up Ukrainian forces.
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jabberwalkie09 said:


Load up on Javelins and Stingers while there is bad weather… give them a welcome party to St Javelin when they arrive
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GAC06 said:

I wonder if there is any actual intent to do an amphibious landing. Perhaps they unloaded in Crimea and have been sailing around as a diversion to try to tie up Ukrainian forces.
You might be on to something here.

In addition to prohibitive weather conditions, the beaches of Odesa have been heavily mined and the city is armed with multiple Neptune anti-ship cruise missile systems. I can't imagine the Russians are willing to risk one of their warships being sunk. Those are obviously much more difficult & expensive to replace than the tanks & aircraft they've lost.

I think they had a small window at the beginning of this invasion to launch an amphibious assault and they missed it.

Short video of Neptune missile test:
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Hell yes!

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CondensedFoggyAggie said:




I assumed Russia would have a ton of night vision. Obviously they don't.

About 5,000 thermal scopes in Kyev right now would be killer. Brave guerrilla troops armed with these for nightly counter attacks would be devastating.
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BusterAg said:

CondensedFoggyAggie said:




I assumed Russia would have a ton of night vision. Obviously they don't.

About 5,000 thermal scopes in Kyev right now would be killer. Brave guerrilla troops armed with these for nightly counter attacks would be devastating.
I didn't either but I have been keeping an eye out last couple of days and I have yet to see one Russian soldier with NVG mounts on their helmets. Not even their airborne. Doesn't discount weapon and vehicle mounted of course but it is a huge indicator of the overall capabilities of a typical mechanized infantry unit.

Example of Russia:


At least the Ukes have them for their SF guys (even if given to them by us)



Night vision capability at the small unit level is such a combat multiplier that to forgo it's use has to mean logistics and training deficiencies. No country would knowingly not use them, if they have the capacity to do so.
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Rossticus said:


So with 16,000 foreign volunteers that's 80k+. Hope they can help blunt and counter in the south.
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Irish 2.0 said:



I have a bad feeling about this. Russia will use this humanitarian corridor to claim that "all civilians have now been evacuated." This will be their excuse to completely level these cities with bombs & artillery, since "only combatants are remaining in the city."

Hope I'm wrong, but Russia has done this before:
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ATX_AG_08 said:


Looks like an M24/35 or a 28 from what I can tell from freeze frame.

Either way, no one survived that and current estimates has each one of those models at <150 airframes in inventory total.

Incredible footage, albeit at the expense of at least 2 men who never had a chance. War is hell.
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Eliminatus said:

ATX_AG_08 said:


Looks like an M24/35 or a 28 from what I can tell from freeze frame.

Either way, no one survived that and current estimates has each one of those models at <150 airframes in inventory total.

Incredible footage, albeit at the expense of at least 2 men who never had a chance. War is hell.
A stinger I assume?
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H2Ag said:

Eliminatus said:


Looks like an M24/35 or a 28 from what I can tell from freeze frame.

Either way, no one survived that and current estimates has each one of those models at <150 airframes in inventory total.

Incredible footage, albeit at the expense of at least 2 men who never had a chance. War is hell.
A stinger I assume?
The Ukes have Stingers and also Strelas and Iglas in their inventories that I know of. Latter two Russian versions but still effective.

Definitely would assume a MANPAD just from conditions on the ground and the corkscrewing motion of it. Hell of a shot. Hit a fuel tank I presume because that was quite a fireball from the missile hit. MANPADS actually have relatively tiny warheads on them that don't normally produce those kinds of fireballs on their own.
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Pilot survived with head wound and was captured. Co-pilot did not survive.

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Looks like he was buds with Urban Meyer

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Irish 2.0 said:


Fox News is reporting Russia failing ro observe cease-fire today.
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GAC06 said:

I wonder if there is any actual intent to do an amphibious landing. Perhaps they unloaded in Crimea and have been sailing around as a diversion to try to tie up Ukrainian forces.
Occams Razor

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This is their MO from Syria. Declare a humanitarian ceasefire. Kill all civilians who try to leave the city. Declare everyone inside the city a combatant. Kill them too.
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Ukraine had a mole???
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Ukraine had a mole???
Sure. To aholes, money can talk.
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