***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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In reply to jabberwalkie09 • 9:02p, 3/4/22
jabberwalkie09 said:
TRM said:
I know it's highly unlikely, but you're saying there's a chance we might see German made tanks in an Eastern Europe combat theater?

German tanks rolling across Poland towards the Ukraine might remind the Russians of something, not really sure.
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 9:03p, 3/4/22
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:
jabberwalkie09 said:
TRM said:
I know it's highly unlikely, but you're saying there's a chance we might see German made tanks in an Eastern Europe combat theater?

German tanks rolling across Poland towards the Ukraine might remind the Russians of something, not really sure.
Poland has Leopard 2's and M1's I believe.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 9:13p, 3/4/22
JobSecurity said:
not a surprise to anyone here
Not good...

probably time for Zelensky to secretly relocate from Kyiv to Lviv
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In reply to OKC~Ag • 9:16p, 3/4/22
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He's most likely going to be a martyr. I hope history remembers his bravery.
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In reply to Rossticus • 9:16p, 3/4/22
Rossticus said:
jabberwalkie09 said:
TRM said:
I know it's highly unlikely, but you're saying there's a chance we might see German made tanks in an Eastern Europe combat theater?


DO IT


Is everyone just glancing over the whole submarine thing here? Sounds like a Christmas list you just keep adding to in hopes your parents hit the lottery.
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In reply to n_touch • 9:19p, 3/4/22
n_touch said:
Rossticus said:
jabberwalkie09 said:
TRM said:
I know it's highly unlikely, but you're saying there's a chance we might see German made tanks in an Eastern Europe combat theater?


DO IT


Is everyone just glancing over the whole submarine thing here? Sounds like a Christmas list you just keep adding to in hopes your parents hit the lottery.
Not sure what the Ukrainians would do with submarines. The Black Sea is too confining and they would be hunted down by Russian anti-sub warfare forces in short order.

Unless maybe they want to go out on the high seas hunting Russian merchant ships, which would be kinda retro and neat.
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9:24p, 3/4/22


Are Russian units now fighting with each other?

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Units of the Russian occupation troops in the area of the village of Severinovka, Makarovsky district, Kiev region, entered into battle with each other using tanks and armored vehicles.

As a result of the clash, the enemy lost nine tanks and four armored personnel carriers.

"Accordingly, this saved us 13 Javelins" the Armed Forces of Ukraine noted.


I think this is bull****, but hey, it's amusing to read on a Friday night.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 9:30p, 3/4/22
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JobSecurity said:
not a surprise to anyone here


This has already been occurring and will continue, until there's nothing left to destroy or they are stopped. I assure you those who have fled, the dead, and or those who about to die don't see the invaders as paper tigers with all kinds of problems and we should not either.
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In reply to Jayhawk • 9:30p, 3/4/22
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Jayhawk said:
n_touch said:
Rossticus said:
jabberwalkie09 said:
TRM said:
I know it's highly unlikely, but you're saying there's a chance we might see German made tanks in an Eastern Europe combat theater?


DO IT


Is everyone just glancing over the whole submarine thing here? Sounds like a Christmas list you just keep adding to in hopes your parents hit the lottery.
Not sure what the Ukrainians would do with submarines. The Black Sea is too confining and they would be hunted down by Russian anti-sub warfare forces in short order.

Unless maybe they want to go out on the high seas hunting Russian merchant ships, which would be kinda retro and neat.

I dunno, based on their performance in the destruction of the Ukrainian Air Force and anti air defenses I kinda like those subs' odds…
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 9:32p, 3/4/22
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:


Are Russian units now fighting with each other?

Quote:
Units of the Russian occupation troops in the area of the village of Severinovka, Makarovsky district, Kiev region, entered into battle with each other using tanks and armored vehicles.

As a result of the clash, the enemy lost nine tanks and four armored personnel carriers.

"Accordingly, this saved us 13 Javelins" the Armed Forces of Ukraine noted.


I think this is bull****, but hey, it's amusing to read on a Friday night.


Why is this bull****? The Russians were nice enough to shoot themselves and the Ukrainians can use the 13 javelins they would have used in those vehicles on other ones.
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9:33p, 3/4/22
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The mettle of the ruskies is about to get tested. Polar vortex in Ukraine next week

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-2022-arctic-extreme-cold-snow-russia-ukraine-eastern-europe-mk/
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 9:34p, 3/4/22
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The poster is saying that it smells like propaganda, a la "Ghost of Kyiv".
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9:34p, 3/4/22
I doubt Turkey would let it through the straight but who knows. And +1 for the retro and neat comment. Also a f ton easier due to modern tracking. Holy crap one download and you have one hell of a target campaign. Also if you get into the Baltic I bet that's a very confusing underwater battlespace.
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In reply to Rossticus • 9:35p, 3/4/22
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Rossticus said:


Damn that photographer! If you can shoot a camera, you can shoot a javelin
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 9:39p, 3/4/22
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McInnis 03 said:
The mettle of the ruskies is about to get tested. Polar vortex in Ukraine next week

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-2022-arctic-extreme-cold-snow-russia-ukraine-eastern-europe-mk/
I thought I read elsewhere on this thread that frozen ground reduces Russian dependence on travelling by paved roads, making it easier to move armor. Hope I'm wrong about that
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 9:40p, 3/4/22
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McInnis 03 said:
The mettle of the ruskies is about to get tested. Polar vortex in Ukraine next week

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-2022-arctic-extreme-cold-snow-russia-ukraine-eastern-europe-mk/
Ukrainians, too. Many of them are without any heating or electricity. This could get really bad.
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In reply to agent-maroon • 9:41p, 3/4/22
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agent-maroon said:
McInnis 03 said:
The mettle of the ruskies is about to get tested. Polar vortex in Ukraine next week

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-2022-arctic-extreme-cold-snow-russia-ukraine-eastern-europe-mk/
I thought I read elsewhere on this thread that frozen ground reduces Russian dependence on travelling on paved roads making it easier to move armor. Hope I'm wrong about that
I'd heard that too.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 9:42p, 3/4/22
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Screw the Russians. What about the poor Ukes who have no heat right now
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In reply to agent-maroon • 9:42p, 3/4/22
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agent-maroon said:
McInnis 03 said:
The mettle of the ruskies is about to get tested. Polar vortex in Ukraine next week

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-2022-arctic-extreme-cold-snow-russia-ukraine-eastern-europe-mk/
I thought I read elsewhere on this thread that frozen ground reduces Russian dependence on travelling by paved roads, making it easier to move armor. Hope I'm wrong about that
If they have fuel.
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9:50p, 3/4/22
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And if the diesel has proper anti-gel additives.
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9:51p, 3/4/22

Interesting read about American combat volunteers

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Piazza, who has family members, friends and investments in Ukraine, is funding logistics for local volunteers willing to combat invading Russian troops. Those already in line to head to the Ukrainian front are either reservists or recently retired members of the U.S. Armed Forces, McCue said. The volunteers may join the Ukrainian Foreign Legion, the national guard or a neighborhood watch group.

A former Marine sergeant, McCue has the experience in logistics to get volunteers safely to the fight. While all volunteers are appreciated, the veteran said he's only taking volunteers with military experience at this point.

"They need everything from medics to mechanics," McCue said Wednesday.

He'll be on a flight to Poland on Friday to set up the staging of the Wyoming volunteers. Every minute before his departure is critical, he said, as the team attempts to outfit volunteers with kits, including protective "plate carriers," prior to leaving.

"My friend called me from a bunker with his little kids. He asked me if we could just talk with them for a little while because they were freaking out under the air raid sirens," he said. "I take things like that extremely personally."
https://www.wyomingnews.com/laramieboomerang/news/wyomingites-volunteer-to-fight-in-ukraine/article_dc9e709d-7ee0-5db3-890d-fb6d657859d9.html
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In reply to Waffledynamics • 9:57p, 3/4/22
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Waffledynamics said:
agent-maroon said:
McInnis 03 said:
The mettle of the ruskies is about to get tested. Polar vortex in Ukraine next week

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-2022-arctic-extreme-cold-snow-russia-ukraine-eastern-europe-mk/
I thought I read elsewhere on this thread that frozen ground reduces Russian dependence on travelling on paved roads making it easier to move armor. Hope I'm wrong about that
I'd heard that too.


Well, yeah.....think about it.
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In reply to Rossticus • 9:59p, 3/4/22
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It was in the Kursk region. Russian media said it took place at a distillery in some village.
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In reply to agent-maroon • 10:04p, 3/4/22
agent-maroon said:
McInnis 03 said:
The mettle of the ruskies is about to get tested. Polar vortex in Ukraine next week

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-2022-arctic-extreme-cold-snow-russia-ukraine-eastern-europe-mk/
I thought I read elsewhere on this thread that frozen ground reduces Russian dependence on travelling by paved roads, making it easier to move armor. Hope I'm wrong about that
This is absolutely true.

Even before the war began, pundits were speculating in January that if Russia were to invade, they better to it soon when ground are frozen to facilitate heavy tracked vehicles.

Now we know the rest of the story..., lol china effed russia twice with their crappy tires and making them delay their invasion time table until Olympic games are done.
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10:08p, 3/4/22
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How long does it take for the ground to re-freeze
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In reply to agent-maroon • 10:08p, 3/4/22
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agent-maroon said:
McInnis 03 said:
The mettle of the ruskies is about to get tested. Polar vortex in Ukraine next week

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-2022-arctic-extreme-cold-snow-russia-ukraine-eastern-europe-mk/
I thought I read elsewhere on this thread that frozen ground reduces Russian dependence on travelling by paved roads, making it easier to move armor. Hope I'm wrong about that
it does reduce their dependence on paved roads, but unfortunately for them, it does nothing to help their dependence on diesel
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In reply to Not a Bot • 10:10p, 3/4/22
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It was in the Kursk region. Russian media said it took place at a distillery in some village.


Russian media? So, original report confirmed then.
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In reply to Not a Bot • 10:11p, 3/4/22
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Captain Positivity said:
It was in the Kursk region. Russian media said it took place at a distillery in some village.


I'm not sure a distillery would go up like that. Last time I checked, alcohol doesn't explode.
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In reply to Eliminatus • 10:11p, 3/4/22
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Eliminatus said:
wangus12 said:
Irish 2.0 said:
FoxNews just had a guest on that is trapped in a now Russian controlled saying that they're raping and murdering women to try to force Ukrainians to respond.


Probably the Chechens


Who are controlled by the Russians and doing exactly what they were brought to Ukraine to do. The Ukes need take none alive. **** every convention of war. It's extermination. Chechen fighters are not even human to me.

Rant aside, who else can the Russians conceivably tap for troops? We have the Chechens and Belarusians. Cubans?
Have you seen this? Sounds like putin may not be the only one in over his head.

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https://jamestown.org/program/kadyrovs-ukrainian-maskirovka/
NO AMNESTY!

in order for democrats, liberals, progressives et al to continue their illogical belief systems they have to pretend not to know a lot of things; by pretending "not to know" there is no guilt, no actual connection to conscience. Denial of truth allows easier trespass.
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10:11p, 3/4/22
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The Ukrainians are starting to make IEDs according to Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t6vuiz/ukrainian_ied/
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