***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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it is critical that the Ukes maintain control of Gostomel for the airport and basically it's the entrance way to Kyiv from the northwest.

that was the first target on Day one of the Russkie air assault which was beaten back by mobile reserves
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74OA said:

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Russia having to sell their oil at massive discount to get it out
The American people need to boycott Shell gasoline stations.
Actually, this is a good thing. Forcing them to sell at steep discounts (losing the large profit they were expecting) leads to less production from Russia if the profit margin isn't there. Costs more to extract that they can get on the market.

When we were energy independent the prices went way down but ours was by oversupply. Their discounts are necessary to move any product at all. Big difference.

A $23 deduct at $110 does not dent their profits at all. Russia's break evens are probably well below $30/bbl, They are just fine at $80.

Now it is less money than would be expected for the possible war machine. But compared prices pre-conflict, the deduct isn't even that heavy.
It's not just a matter of being profitable, it's how much profit is needed to balance a producer's national budget. Russia is so dependent on energy revenues it currently needs a minimum of ~$70bl and high export volume to avoid drastic cuts to national spending and hurting people's standard of living. I imagine recouping the billions lost on this war and the sanctions hit to volume will drive its break even point much closer to $100bl in coming years.
https://www.spglobal.com/commodity-insights/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/120221-russia-opec-seen-moving-closer-on-fiscal-breakeven-oil-prices


Russia isn't Saudi. It hasn't hooked their citizens on government handouts nearly to the degree. Their populace aren't a bunch of spoiled oil princes. They will beat their populace into submission and be just fine with cuts.
Russia has a national budget. If it wants to avoid cuts to that budget it needed to sell oil at ~$70 a barrel before the cost of this war and the economic impact of sanctions. As you say, Russian "people programs" are already austere, so any loss of oil revenue will cut those to the bone and also cut into Moscow's military spending, too. My point is saying Russia is okay because it is selling oil at more than it costs to produce it doesn't address how much additional profit is needed to balance its national budget without drastic cuts.


Do they have a national debt that they care about?

Serious question, since if they do then it would be in sharp contrast to our own lack of concern about debt. If they have China backing them up like we do then they may not care about balancing their budget.
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That's the thing about Russia. They were a growing economy. With the right leadership they might have been downright prosperous. So much potential with natural resources.

Debt to GDP is only 18-20% or so. They defaulted in the late 90's, though.

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Captain Positivity said:




Yep, nato would apparently destroy the paper tiger that is Russia.

It would definitely, imo, lead to the use of nuclear weapons as Russia wouldn't have a choice if they wanted to survive.
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Eliminatus said:

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FoxNews just had a guest on that is trapped in a now Russian controlled saying that they're raping and murdering women to try to force Ukrainians to respond.


Probably the Chechens


Who are controlled by the Russians and doing exactly what they were brought to Ukraine to do. The Ukes need take none alive. **** every convention of war. It's extermination. Chechen fighters are not even human to me.

Rant aside, who else can the Russians conceivably tap for troops? We have the Chechens and Belarusians. Cubans?

they have more forces in Siberia, more forces from Moldova in the Russian Transnistria region.
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They have about 1,500 troops in Transnistria. And the Ukes have blown the bridge.
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Red Pear Realty said:




Night fighting?
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Moldova should seize the opportunity
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Ag In Ok said:

Red Pear Realty said:




Night fighting?


Ukes can, Russians can't (at least not effectively). Tremendous advantage.
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Salute CornPops Message said:

Obviously not how Putin thought this would go. So what is Putin's calculus here? What does he do/ can he do to change the game?
He doesn't have to change anything.

he keeps feeding in more reinforcements and grinds down the Ukes in a war of attrition

notice that the Russians keep advancing from the Crimea in positions moving south to north and have nearly captured the entire black sea and sea of azov coastlines, now moving into nearly central Ukraine where the nuclear power plants are in Russian hands
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Is that....some toyota they're riding on?

Damn, not yet day 10 and riding into battle on civilian vehicles.
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Beat me to it
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Captain Positivity said:

Should be noted, Russia has made extensive progress in the south. Haven't heard much about Odesa since rumors of an amphibious assault yesterday.

They have a land bridge to Crimea now for resupply/reinforcements.

Problem for Ukraine is even if they beat back forces coming from the north, they may not have the forces to try to retake the south without leaving the north and east exposed.



That's still 350 miles away from Kyiv.

They can try to come up north, but they'll just run out of fuel and gift yet more hardware to the Ukes
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Captain Positivity said:


TexAgs identified this days ago, as usual.
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They have room to maneuver down there. Supply lines should theoretically be easier with the landbridge.
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Agthatbuilds said:

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-teams-harrowing-account-of-their-violent-ambush-in-ukraine-this-week-12557585



how does yelling in english every time they fire at you help your case?

maybe having flags with words in ukrainian for this exact scenario would have been helpful
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LMCane said:

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That would corroborate some of the maps I posted last night. They retook Marakiv 2 days then moved on Irpin and Gostomel yesterday. From last night here:
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3274372/replies/61605227

I'll post a tweet from there: .



Wait, wait, hold on.

Are they saying the Ukes will encircle the convoy?!
No.

that they counter-attacked along the Kyiv/Zhitomir highway and broke through which would trap some Russian forces who had moved south of that highway

on the maps it is not a large force.

but the point is if the Ukes are able to conduct limited counter offensives that is a very bad sign for the Russkies


Agreed - especially if night vision is crossing the border from Poland. What i am wanting to see is confirmation and the status of their eastern armies flanks. Russia is covering some serious ground from the south.
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:



Is that....some toyota they're riding on?

Damn, not yet day 10 and riding into battle on civilian vehicles.


Technicals are a nice soft target. Our guys smoked a ton of those in Somalia.
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aezmvp said:

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If true they're going to start getting rolled back locally. Then if they can't feed those troops it's going to fall completely apart. I'm also expecting that if this is accurate you'll see the Russian exchange not open all next week. At that point you're going to start seeing companies in Russia just laying off staff left, right and center. Once that starts and you see unemployment spike heavily Putin is going to have a really, really tight spot.
How are Ukranians getting food? Think it would be harder for them than for the Ruskies
Train network is still running.

Should elaborate. The problems with issues like IFF or lots of MANPADS and inaccurate long range missiles is that the Russians have largely failed to degrade the Uke's transportation infrastructure. When it became obvious that this was going to be a long war, this should have been priority number one along with communication, internet, etc. Very strange.


the food shortage is overplayed- if the Uke civilians have food then the Russian troops are going to steal it from them so that issue cuts both ways

if there is a way to ensure no resupply of fuel and ammo though- that is a much bigger concern for the Rus
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These guys give zero Fs.
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Captain Positivity said:

They have room to maneuver down there. Supply lines should theoretically be easier with the landbridge.
the Ukes need to quickly start destroying parts of the Russian convoy to the northwest of kyiv in the next two days

then have to move at night their best forces south to crush the Russians moving north (on the west side of the Dnieper) and drive them back to Odessa (where they will be crushed in a vice)
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We've supplied them with night vision and have been training them. The first reports of the counteroffensive in Kharkiv was at 3 our time/11 over there. Use the advantage while you have it; plus, the Russian troops are probably tired and hungry.
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Agthatbuilds said:

Captain Positivity said:




Yep, nato would apparently destroy the paper tiger that is Russia.

It would definitely, imo, lead to the use of nuclear weapons as Russia wouldn't have a choice if they wanted to survive.
If we head it I believe that's true.

I can't see France, Germany or Great Britain doing much better than Russia is and they are the strong members of NATO

I do think Turkey could probably be alright but I question their loyalty and willingness to provide support
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YouBet said:

Captain Positivity said:


TexAgs identified this days ago, as usual.

There's some conflation there. 18 million served, but the German army was never more than 10 million at any one time and many of those were drafted conscripts. Russia could easily draft conscripts and increase their military size the same way the Germans did.
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Could they outfit them though?

I suppose pre-sanction they could have quietly ramped up war production, but now?
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Zelensky not pulling punches. Just called NATO p***ies.



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Agthatbuilds said:

Captain Positivity said:




Yep, nato would apparently destroy the paper tiger that is Russia.

It would definitely, imo, lead to the use of nuclear weapons as Russia wouldn't have a choice if they wanted to survive.
How many NATO countries are prepared to fight?

The head of the German military said that German forces are not ready, they've been begging for additional funding since the Crimea invasion, but just now got the politicians to wake up.

I bet Poland is ready, they still have too many memories of life behind the Iron Curtain. Some of the other eastern European countries may be ready, but they'd be resource poor.

France? GB? I would guess that France is more ready than GB since they still do some fighting in Africa, but I doubt that they are trained and equipped to deal with the Russians.

Even the US would have to pivot rapidly and move much more equipment to Europe. We are just now starting to think about peer to peer engagements. Our focus for the past couple of decades has been the WOT. Our Air Force has too few squadrons that meet readiness standards. War in Eastern Europe isn't a great location for our Navy. The Army and Marines would have the best shot, but I'm not sure how ready the Army is currently.

It doesn't mean that we wouldn't win, but it would be much more painful that it should be.
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Zelensky really wants other countries to send their sons and daughters to Ukraine to fight and die
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ABATTBQ11 said:

YouBet said:

Captain Positivity said:


TexAgs identified this days ago, as usual.

There's some conflation there. 18 million served, but the German army was never more than 10 million at any one time and many of those were drafted conscripts. Russia could easily draft conscripts and increase their military size the same way the Germans did.
Judging from their performance in Ukraine I'm not too worried.
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Probably not a smart move. He has the support of the west right now and they are giving him a crapload of weapons to fight Putin. He can't bully NATO into a no-fly agreement.
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W said:

Zelensky really wants other countries to send their sons and daughters to Ukraine to fight and die help save his country.
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MAP: https://militaryland.net/ukraine/deployment-map/
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ABATTBQ11 said:

YouBet said:

Captain Positivity said:


TexAgs identified this days ago, as usual.

There's some conflation there. 18 million served, but the German army was never more than 10 million at any one time and many of those were drafted conscripts. Russia could easily draft conscripts and increase their military size the same way the Germans did.
Wasn't even looking at the headcount back then. Was commenting on the obvious ****ting the bed by Russia in Ukraine. They clearly can't take this to a NATO country. They are done.

Also, in 2022....the EU has 4x the population. Good luck to Russia.

Edit: to be clear, I'm no fan of the EU and their qualifications to have balls, but the minority that does who are trained smoke Russia all day long.
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Rossticus said:

Zelensky not pulling punches. Just called NATO p***ies.





Sorry Zelensky. We'll help with sanctions and weapons, but you aren't NATO and we aren't starting WW3 over you. But I understand and appreciate the attempt
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FriscoKid said:

Probably not a smart move. He has the support of the west right now and they are giving him a crapload of weapons to fight Putin. He can't bully NATO into a no-fly agreement.


If Ukraine falls then NATO is suddenly in a bind with the inevitability of Russian military installations being built all along its eastern border and nuclear threats from Russia if they don't withdraw their forces westward. A Ukrainian loss creates a potentially significant problem for NATO and Europe so it does cut both ways. And we've seen how we react to nuclear threats.
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