***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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RebelE Infantry said:

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LostInLA07 said:

Ukrainians don't seem like they want to leave any cities if they aren't Ukrainian.
Yea I think this is a bad idea anyways. It would give Russia more power, it would shed Russia in a more positive spotlight PR wise that they went into a city and didn't hurt anyone, etc. Let them keep looking evil, have the world keep crashing their economy, let this keep dragging out until hopefully Russia citizens rise up or somebody takes out Putin.


The complicated part of this is that it traded bad Russian PR for innocent lives. Not something to be taken lightly.
I think Ukraine needs to turn their major cities into Russian graveyards if they are going to have any chance of success.
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RebelE Infantry said:

IDaggie06 said:

LostInLA07 said:

Ukrainians don't seem like they want to leave any cities if they aren't Ukrainian.
Yea I think this is a bad idea anyways. It would give Russia more power, it would shed Russia in a more positive spotlight PR wise that they went into a city and didn't hurt anyone, etc. Let them keep looking evil, have the world keep crashing their economy, let this keep dragging out until hopefully Russia citizens rise up or somebody takes out Putin.


The complicated part of this is that it traded bad Russian PR for innocent lives. Not something to be taken lightly.

True, but if you are going to give up one large city, you might as well just give up the rest.
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Agthatbuilds said:



This is how you bring putin down.


That's what decency is. Something Putin and others know nothing about.

I needed to see this, thanks for sharing.
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Agthatbuilds said:



This is how you bring putin down.
Absolutely.

Kill as many Russian soldiers as you can, but any you capture or that surrender, treat them with kindness.

Not only does it neuter any Russian propaganda that the Ukrainians are committing war crimes/crimes against humanity, but it shows the people back home in Russia what is really happening to their fathers, sons, brothers, uncles, and friends.
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rgag12 said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

W said:

as the destruction continues...it may be time for the "open city" designation for some places in the eastern half.

otherwise there won't be much left


Absolutely correct. There's an Australian guy named Gray Connelly who's very good on geopolitics stuff who's been saying this for days now.
what does this mean?


It means you've demilitarized the city and will not be defended. You do this in order to spare a city from bombardment and loss of life


Can also act as sanctuary cities for civilians escaping from contested cities. When evacuation out of the war zone is practically impossible, evac to an open city can help limit civilian casualties in the contested cities. It's a win-win in the short term.
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IDaggie06 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

IDaggie06 said:

LostInLA07 said:

Ukrainians don't seem like they want to leave any cities if they aren't Ukrainian.
Yea I think this is a bad idea anyways. It would give Russia more power, it would shed Russia in a more positive spotlight PR wise that they went into a city and didn't hurt anyone, etc. Let them keep looking evil, have the world keep crashing their economy, let this keep dragging out until hopefully Russia citizens rise up or somebody takes out Putin.


The complicated part of this is that it traded bad Russian PR for innocent lives. Not something to be taken lightly.

True, but if you are going to give up one large city, you might as well just give up the rest.


Not necessarily. Let's take Mariupol as an example. It is completely surrounded and trapped against the sea with no hope for reinforcements. It would be best to surrender the city instead of having it razed to the ground with the same end result. You can do this while still fighting to keep control of strategic cities farther up the Dnieper.
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It's also great psyops on the Russian home front.
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ATX_AG_08 said:



Please let this be true.
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Being reported Russia took YouTube offline. They are loosing the propaganda front.



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ATX_AG_08 said:




All I can see is Eric Bana looking at Josh Hartnett and saying "Shall we" in black hawk down.

Light that mofo up and let the burning bodies shed some light on the Ukrainian night sky!!!!
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TRM said:


Unbelievable the arament being abandoned by the Russians. Assuming all they need is fuel and drivers, they are re-arming the Ukranians all by themselves.

No army with trained officers, good morale, and the will to win would walk away from equipment like that. At a minimum they would destroy it so it couldn't be used against them down the road.
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ATX_AG_08 said:

Being reported Russia took YouTube offline. They are loosing the propaganda front.


IIRC, Google also said they were going to block Russian access to it.
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Ag87H2O said:

TRM said:


Unbelievable the arament being abandoned by the Russians. Assuming all they need is fuel and drivers, they are re-arming the Ukranians all by themselves.

No army with trained officers, good morale, and the will to win would walk away from equipment like that. At a minimum they would destroy it so it couldn't be used against them down the road.
What's that saying about if it sounds too good to be true?

I'm super skeptical of all these Russian equipment being abandoned.
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Here is a good quick write up on the overall strategic military situation. Yes it runs counter to the broad narrative, no it is not Russian propaganda.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10569141/Putin-NOT-crazy-Russian-invasion-NOT-failing-writes-military-analyst-BILL-ROGGIO.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490
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No Spin Ag said:

Agthatbuilds said:



This is how you bring putin down.


That's what decency is. Something Putin and others know nothing about.

I needed to see this, thanks for sharing.
The way he was drinking that hot tea and being all bundled up leads me to believe he has not eaten in days leading him to being cold even with what appears to be warm clothes.

Reminds me of Patton giving water to the POWs.
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Ag87H2O said:

TRM said:


Unbelievable the arament being abandoned by the Russians. Assuming all they need is fuel and drivers, they are re-arming the Ukranians all by themselves.

No army with trained officers, good morale, and the will to win would walk away from equipment like that. At a minimum they would destroy it so it couldn't be used against them down the road.


Russian army morale could be so low, it could be intentional aid.
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Forte 10 with a long look at Kaliningrad.

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52000+ almost the entire time.
Yesterday there was different one running the poland/uke border who squawked off.
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Beat40 said:

Ag87H2O said:

TRM said:


Unbelievable the arament being abandoned by the Russians. Assuming all they need is fuel and drivers, they are re-arming the Ukranians all by themselves.

No army with trained officers, good morale, and the will to win would walk away from equipment like that. At a minimum they would destroy it so it couldn't be used against them down the road.
What's that saying about if it sounds too good to be true?

I'm super skeptical of all these Russian equipment being abandoned.


Idk…lots of "evidence" out there corroborating it.

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jabberwalkie09 said:


Russia will never beat these people. It's a fools errand.

Talk about fully committed and laying everything on the line. Reminds me of some men who once pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.

Seeing that blockade is inspiring.
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People on Twitter keep citing the Geneva Convention in regards to using POW videos. Any insight on this as Twitter people are wrong like 80% of the time?
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bmks270 said:

Ag87H2O said:

TRM said:


Unbelievable the arament being abandoned by the Russians. Assuming all they need is fuel and drivers, they are re-arming the Ukranians all by themselves.

No army with trained officers, good morale, and the will to win would walk away from equipment like that. At a minimum they would destroy it so it couldn't be used against them down the road.


Russian army morale could be so low, it could be intentional aid.
Almost makes you wonder if Putin and his brass is fully in control of their army. That's a lot of hardware that has been either destoyed or abandoned in working condition.
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Bigfoot Is Real said:

People on Twitter keep citing the Geneva Convention in regards to using POW videos. Any insight on this as Twitter people are wrong like 80% of the time?
War crimes only matter if your side loses and you get captured by the winners.
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Bigfoot Is Real said:

People on Twitter keep citing the Geneva Convention in regards to using POW videos. Any insight on this as Twitter people are wrong like 80% of the time?

It's my understanding that it's a violation for a government to do it, not individuals.
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Is there nothing flying over Ukraine or nothing squawking?

Also, a c17 just took off from Rzeszow....
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RebelE Infantry said:

Here is a good quick write up on the overall strategic military situation. Yes it runs counter to the broad narrative, no it is not Russian propaganda.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10569141/Putin-NOT-crazy-Russian-invasion-NOT-failing-writes-military-analyst-BILL-ROGGIO.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490


Read the article. Bunch of opinions giving too much credit to putin and Russia. Truth is in the middle somewhere.


The key to the decision of this invasion, which the article hinted at, was putin correctly calculated that the west would not go to war with Russia. He planned for everything else, except maybe the strength of resistance being put up by the ukes.
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