I don't think the West is going to do anything about any of these cities falling.

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/russia-ukraine-news-kyiv-war-putin-invasion-talks-today/#post-update-8de46653

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A U.S. official tells CBS News that a tactical seizure of Ukraine is possible within the next 4-6 weeks, based on the assessments of what is currently taking place on the ground with the Russian military.
As David Martin has reported, it is expected to take one week before Kyiv is surrounded, and another 30 days could elapse before Ukraine's capital is seized. This U.S. official says it is not clear whether Russia would gradually strangle the city or engage in street-to-street fighting. These scenarios were laid out for members of Congress Monday as the initial battle to destroy the Ukrainian military and government. It is also not clear whether Russia would then decide to go west toward Lviv or as far west as the Polish border.

The situation is dynamic, so this remains an estimate on what is militarily possible. This U.S. official also could not say when the sanctions that have been rolled out so far will have a practical impact on the Russian military. The low morale and shortages of food and fuel are not a result of the sanctions now in place. At some point, however, the Russian military will be impacted by the sanctions.
Given the durability of the Ukrainian resistance and its long history of pushing Russia back, the U.S. and Western powers do not believe that this will be a short war. The U.K. foreign secretary estimated it would be a 10-year war. Lawmakers at the Capitol were told Monday it is likely to last 10, 15 or 20 years and that ultimately, Russia will lose.

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Is it realistic that Putin could slowly take Ukraine with the current tactics? To me it doesn't seem like Putin has any option besides becoming more aggressive/violent. His leverage at this point seems predicated on occupying Ukraine buy they're still miraculously holding their own.

Edit: post above answers that question. So was this a slow play from the start and we're just not familiar with how the Russian military moves?

clw04 said:

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Captain Positivity said:

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Manpads would have a turkey shoot.

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Thats what the Russians probably want.

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Putin is sending the message that everyone is cheap dispensable tools. I mean, I know life is cheap and all in Russia but investing into pilots isn't cheap afaik.

Short, succinct messages could be posted on the Russian videos, reviews etc. Something along the lines of :


News that the world is receiving that Russia is filtering away from you :

- Russia is using conscripted soldiers who were not aware that they were going to invade Ukraine

- Thousands of Russian soldiers have been killed. Some estimates are over 5,000. They are running out of fuel and food on Ukrainian highways, stuck miles from their objective. Some have resorted to surrendering to the Ukrainians without a fight. The initial part invasion has been a massive failure and they are turning to brutal and medieval tactics to try and win at all costs.

- The Russian objective is to completely surround the major cities of Ukraine and starve the Ukrainian men, women and children in hopes that they will surrender. They have also sent missles and bombs into obvious residential areas in the hope that the Ukrainians lose their resolve.

- Ukrainian military has been much stronger than anticipated. They have received equipment and supplies from most other major countries of the world.

- Major protests of the war all around the world, some of them in Moscow where reports are up to 6,000 Russian protestors have been jailed.

- Russia is filtering out the news that they don't want you to see and broadcasting state propaganda, similar to what is done in North Korea. Putin is increasingly losing support amongst the country and amongst the people.

- Insert stats here about how many Ukrainian civilians have died/ been injured. (I don't know the current stats).


I'm sure others can edit a couple of my numbers that might be off and add some others, but messages like that if received by the Russian population could change the whole war.

Flying biplanes now? What a f ing death sentence.

agent-maroon said:

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If they're plannind to use them as decoys wouldn't the AWACS or whatever air recon info we're providing them be able to discern an ancient biplane from a modern aircraft?

Not arguing just curious

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Not sure by signature but by speed. I don't think jets can fly that slow and stay aloft.

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SidsBurnerAccount said:

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Haven't seen this posted. These Americans are posting nice, detailed reviews of the day's military events in Ukraine. Lots of digging into the maps.

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Hands down the best tactical update / review of what is going on, these guys are obviously ex military

I assume the enemy would already know all this info also so not a big deal with them going over it in that kind of detail

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LunkersTV is a great follow on YouTube with tons of other combat footage viewing (not to mention his fishing stuff). Had not seen this yet so thanks.

OG UNF said:

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Edit: post above answers that question. So was this a slow play from the start and we're just not familiar with how the Russian military moves?

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No way this was a slow play. They accidentally released propaganda on the 26th declaring victory.

They had bad intel, poor logistical planning, and bad execution of the bad plan.

They don't even have clear skies for their planes yet. That should have been accomplished day one.

More peacekeeping and liberating of an oppressed populace…

Videos verified by @nytimes show devastating scenes in the town of Borodyanka, northwest of Kyiv. Two apartment buildings have partially collapsed and they surround a kindergarten. Schools in Ukraine have been closed since Feb 21. W/ @evanhill @dim109 https://t.co/nkhv06IOrG pic.twitter.com/sheNtEC8mQ

— Muyi Xiao (@muyixiao) March 2, 2022

Agthatbuilds said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Captain Positivity said:

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In western #Russia #Putin has deployed 42 An-2 “Colt” biplanes & a 300% increase in combat aircraft

There are indications the “Colts” may have been converted to drones for use as decoys to trigger an air defense response from #Ukraine that would identify their location

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) March 2, 2022

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....Biplanes?

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Built in 1946

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What's that red stick above the cockpit? Can't find anything on Google.

BlackGoldAg2011 said:

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More peacekeeping and liberating of an oppressed populace…

Videos verified by @nytimes show devastating scenes in the town of Borodyanka, northwest of Kyiv. Two apartment buildings have partially collapsed and they surround a kindergarten. Schools in Ukraine have been closed since Feb 21. W/ @evanhill @dim109 https://t.co/nkhv06IOrG pic.twitter.com/sheNtEC8mQ

— Muyi Xiao (@muyixiao) March 2, 2022

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Wow, that's bad, they basically bombed civilians from the planes above.. horrible

Captain Positivity said:

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Russia is shutting down info getting out to the people. This is a way to skirt around the censorship. Posting comments in popular Russian-language YouTube videos is another way.

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I was totally joking from a "positivity" stand point

⚡️Russian troops have seized the river port and railway station in Kherson, Mayor of Kherson Igor Kolyhav said.

According to CNN, Russian military vehicles entered Kherson after heavy shelling and appear to have taken the southern city.

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) March 2, 2022

Welp. Looks like they found the key.

Agthatbuilds said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Captain Positivity said:

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In western #Russia #Putin has deployed 42 An-2 “Colt” biplanes & a 300% increase in combat aircraft

There are indications the “Colts” may have been converted to drones for use as decoys to trigger an air defense response from #Ukraine that would identify their location

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) March 2, 2022

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....Biplanes?

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My guess is that they are using them as scout aircraft as they probably have a long loiter time.

JobSecurity said:

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There are Unconfirmed reports that Russian VDV Forced have launched an Airborne Operation on the city of Kharkiv within the last hour, Heavy Fighting is being reported throughout the city as Ukrainian Forces trying to Combat the Russian Airborne Forces.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 2, 2022

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Supposedly this has been confirmed with estimates of drop size being 400-500+

We in the US alone are paying them $2 billion+ a month for their oil. Add in China and European oil and gas purchases and their financial situation is probably not as dire as the sanctions would make it seem.

Going to be sad when we let them take Moldova once they finally manage to secure Odessa.

BlackGoldAg2011 said:

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More peacekeeping and liberating of an oppressed populace…

Videos verified by @nytimes show devastating scenes in the town of Borodyanka, northwest of Kyiv. Two apartment buildings have partially collapsed and they surround a kindergarten. Schools in Ukraine have been closed since Feb 21. W/ @evanhill @dim109 https://t.co/nkhv06IOrG pic.twitter.com/sheNtEC8mQ

— Muyi Xiao (@muyixiao) March 2, 2022

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Just another day of murder from the peacemaker.

No Spin Ag said:

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Just another day of murder from the peacemaker.

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After all, what is a special peacekeeping mission without a little bit of wanton civilian mass murder?

Clipped this from the NY Times.

Jester55 said:

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We in the US alone are paying them $2 billion+ a month for their oil. Add in China and European oil and gas purchases and their financial situation is probably not as dire as the sanctions would make it seem.

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That doesn't even come close to covering any issues the Russians will be feeling. They are about to be set back two decades. They will be crushed after this. Putin is ****ed.

Video from Ukrainian SOF targeting said Unit: https://t.co/DTtJ8Rrwte

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 2, 2022

Ukraine's Defense Ministry: Belarusian forces were brought to combat readiness and deployed in areas of concentration "as close as possible" to the border of Ukraine.https://t.co/MIG3cFb7NL pic.twitter.com/Yly0mFAgsq

— Status-6 (@Archer83Able) March 2, 2022

Ultimately, we can't bow to Russian pressure every time they threaten to nuke something. They are absolutely terrified of NATO's military power, and in particular our air power would blow them off the battle field. They have absolutely nothing that can challenge our F35s and F22s and they know it now more than ever.

Not ready to suggest we do a no fly zone as of now, but we can't just let Russia always have the initiative because they ignore the rules. We can't be scared of their threats when they have everything to lose. If I was a betting man, 2 days of a no fly zone over Ukraine would most likely seal Putin's fate over all else. I think that would be the last straw before the oligarchs took over and started back tracking the decisions that were made so that their life can return to yachts and villas again before they die. But it is still a big risk and a decision we shouldn't make lightly.

jabberwalkie09 said:

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“The Notice to Air Missions (NOTAM) and regulatory orders will suspend operations of all aircraft owned, certified, operated, registered, chartered, leased, or controlled by, for, or for the benefit of, a person who is a citizen of Russia.”

— Pete Muntean (@petemuntean) March 2, 2022

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Notice to Air Men, not Air Missions

Captain Positivity said:

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⚡️Artem Zdunov, who heads Russia's Mordovian Republic, reported the death of Russian Colonel Viktor Isaikin.

Zdunov said that Colonel Isaikin was sent to Ukraine on a “military assignment.”

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) March 2, 2022

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Good. Hope he burns in Hell.

Has anyone given Ukraine cruise missiles yet?