***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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EastSideAg2002 said:

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This could be interesting. Not sure why they're announcing their plans ahead of time though.
I would worry that hitting the Russian grid at this point would do more damage than good. They need to keep the Russian populations' support for this war down as they may be one of the only assets to stop Putin.
This isn't 1917. There aren't enough armed non government groups. If that happens its an inside job.
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Hopefully this is more crack's in Putin's resolve. Need to keep the economic pressure on.
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Update from my brother-in-law in Melitopol:

The city is firmly under Russian control and has been since Friday. Troops and tanks are all over the streets but very little conflict is breaking out thankfully. There are a couple grocery stores in the city that miraculously still have food and seems like most still have food and water (for now). Electricity has been on and off - when it's on, they hustle to warm up and cook food.

Farmers are starting to bring vegetable, potatoes, flour, etc into town now to sell, and surprisingly folks still have faith in the currency and buying/selling commerce where possible.

My brother-in-law and his son go out every day to the nearby stores and buy up what they can. They are sheltering and feeding 50 people in a location I won't disclose right now, so they are constantly on the hunt for resources.

It's cold and snow is on the way. War is absolute hell and Putin is evil personified. I hope by the grace of God that this ends soon.
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So when do Russian military heads start defection into other nations? The gig is up, obviously they were skimming off the top of the military budget. This army has alot of people but no fight. The equipment is old, no parts to repair, no supply lines. All they have are missiles.
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Seabreeze said:

So when do Russian military heads start defection into other nations? The gig is up, obviously they were skimming off the top of the military budget. This army has alot of people but no fight. The equipment is old, no parts to repair, no supply lines. All they have are missiles.


You can kill a lot of civilians with missiles.
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Interesting note here. Rubio said the only part of the city not surrounded was the southeast - not sure the goal of the Russians here
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SidsBurnerAccount said:



Hopefully this is more crack's in Putin's resolve. Need to keep the economic pressure on.

A part OF MOSCOW?! I'm going to need more corroboration to believe this. That's incredible.
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Rossticus said:

Seabreeze said:

So when do Russian military heads start defection into other nations? The gig is up, obviously they were skimming off the top of the military budget. This army has alot of people but no fight. The equipment is old, no parts to repair, no supply lines. All they have are missiles.


You can kill a lot of civilians with missiles.

I get that.. But it wasn't the point of the question
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Almost every Ukrainian update seems to be about destroying 900 tanks and 200 planes in 5 minutes time. How much can we trust their numbers, if at all? Who have been the best sources for information like this?
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To what end? You can't bomb people into submission. The west wouldn't allow it and it doesn't work.
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We can't trust actual numbers, but it's clear they've done heavy damage.
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Allegedly a push notification sent out by a large Russian pharmacy chain:

"Putin stole our money and now he's stealing lives. There's a war in Ukraine. Wake up!"
"The ruble's value might return, but our soldiers won't return from Ukraine!"
"In 5 days, 5500+ Russian soldiers died in Ukraine."



Who knows whether this actually happened or not, but hopefully it did.
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Salute CornPops Message said:

When do we stop importing Russian oil….


We already have.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-scrambles-to-maintain-oil-sales-life-blood-of-economy-11646156655?mod=article_inline
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SidsBurnerAccount said:



Hopefully this is more crack's in Putin's resolve. Need to keep the economic pressure on.



The Siberian work camps just got a little bigger
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Captain Positivity said:


As an amateur plane enthusiast, I don't see the AN-2 being converted to a drone. That is a very mechanical cockpit, not a digital computer driven cockpit.

He may be using them to expose Ukranian radars. But I bet they are pilot driven


Edit to add-The AN2 could be very effective in this environment in several different roles. .
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Russia is shutting down info getting out to the people. This is a way to skirt around the censorship. Posting comments in popular Russian-language YouTube videos is another way.
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Captain Positivity said:

Russia is shutting down info getting out to the people. This is a way to skirt around the censorship. Posting comments in popular Russian-language YouTube videos is another way.

Most of the people are also leaving 5-Star reviews.
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Helping out the local businesses.
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Captain Positivity said:


....Biplanes?
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Captain Positivity said:

Russia is shutting down info getting out to the people. This is a way to skirt around the censorship. Posting comments in popular Russian-language YouTube videos is another way.
How does one identify one of these videos?
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We'll probably never really know accurate numbers, but they are definitely doing some damage
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Jay Reimenschneider said:

To what end? You can't bomb people into submission. The west wouldn't allow it and it doesn't work.


They're going to try, and yes we would allow it. What about our posture or response to this point makes you think that we'd do anything else? They're already targeting civilians en masse in places. See Kherson.
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Rossticus said:


And somehow keeps us out of it technically.
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This might be fun
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Seabreeze said:

Rossticus said:

Seabreeze said:

So when do Russian military heads start defection into other nations? The gig is up, obviously they were skimming off the top of the military budget. This army has alot of people but no fight. The equipment is old, no parts to repair, no supply lines. All they have are missiles.


You can kill a lot of civilians with missiles.

I get that.. But it wasn't the point of the question


I think most of them end up dead before they defect. Either by their own or a Putin goon's hand. You know Putin has to have eyes on every one of those guys.
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Waffledynamics said:

Captain Positivity said:


....Biplanes?




Built in 1946
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https://www.museumofflight.org/aircraft/antonov-2-colt

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The An-2 is one of the largest single-engine biplanes ever produced. It was particularly prized for its versatility and extraordinary slow-flight, short takeoff, and landing capabilities. In fact, the An-2 has no published stall speed, and pilots have been known to fly the plane under full control at 30 mph. This combined with its ability to handle extreme weather conditions and rough, makeshift runways made it an ideal workforce in undeveloped and remote operational environments.
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Manpads would have a turkey shoot.
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SidsBurnerAccount said:



Haven't seen this posted. These Americans are posting nice, detailed reviews of the day's military events in Ukraine. Lots of digging into the maps.


Hands down the best tactical update / review of what is going on, these guys are obviously ex military

I assume the enemy would already know all this info also so not a big deal with them going over it in that kind of detail
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Captain Positivity said:

Manpads would have a turkey shoot.
Thats what the Russians probably want.
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If they're plannind to use them as decoys wouldn't the AWACS or whatever air recon info we're providing them be able to discern an ancient biplane from a modern aircraft?

Not arguing just curious
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