***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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I don't see how they can take Kiev if the people really fight it out. The Russians are showing a serious lack of will combined with major command and control issues. Communication on unencrypted radios and by cell phone? Think about when we went into Fallujah. That took us a month and a half of detailed highly coordinated attacks. Granted the Russians don't seem to care about casualties like we do but that just goes back to their will to fight problem.
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SPSAg05 said:



Slovenia is a NATO country. Game on?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Ukraine should start destroying rail lines to prevent refueling....have the partisans target them.
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AgsMyDude said:

2wealfth Man said:

I keep reiterating that there is no way Russian forces are going to be able to hold any appreciably sized territory that they may "take". No logistics, demoralized front line soldiers, Uke's getting more advanced weapons everyday and a fanatical populace. The whole thing is sad to watch; so useless.

Agree. The Ukrainians aren't going to let them institute some puppet government and just lie down/obey.

Going to get nasty and so many will continue to die in a worthless battle.


They'll probably assassinate them
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PJYoung said:




Putin is hoping to get the Ukrain people to haul them to their bases, that way everything is in place after he conquers.

He told his men to flee, this is all part of their plan
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ABATTBQ11 said:

AgsMyDude said:

2wealfth Man said:

I keep reiterating that there is no way Russian forces are going to be able to hold any appreciably sized territory that they may "take". No logistics, demoralized front line soldiers, Uke's getting more advanced weapons everyday and a fanatical populace. The whole thing is sad to watch; so useless.

Agree. The Ukrainians aren't going to let them institute some puppet government and just lie down/obey.

Going to get nasty and so many will continue to die in a worthless battle.


They'll probably assassinate them

All 40 million of them?
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wangus12 said:

SPSAg05 said:



Slovenia is a NATO country. Game on?
I'll believe it when I see it.

Also, why were they still there? This has been going on almost a week. Seems that all the other countries either relocated or left.
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Did Lukashenko just show the "secret plans" to divide up Ukraine on social media?
I doubt he is that careless.
But in the commie world.....
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aggiehawg said:

2wealfth Man said:

I keep reiterating that there is no way Russian forces are going to be able to hold any appreciably sized territory that they may "take". No logistics, demoralized front line soldiers, Uke's getting more advanced weapons everyday and a fanatical populace. The whole thing is sad to watch; so useless.
Fully agree. The invading is the easiest part and if they suck at that they have nowhere near the ability to manage an occupation.


They will manage it fine I suspect. They won't be using kid gloves like the US does. They will break the resistance through brutality. I'd expect to see cities that show too much fighting spirit to be blockaded and starved until they submit.
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wangus12 said:

SPSAg05 said:



Slovenia is a NATO country. Game on?
I'll believe it when I see it.
Maybe time for Slovenia to rethink deciding not to send the planes the said they would to Ukraine. Send em the planes.
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DCPD158 said:

wangus12 said:

SPSAg05 said:



Slovenia is a NATO country. Game on?
I'll believe it when I see it.
Maybe time for Slovenia to rethink deciding not to send the planes the said they would to Ukraine. Send em the planes.
Slovakia not Slovenia.
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TRM said:

DCPD158 said:

wangus12 said:

SPSAg05 said:



Slovenia is a NATO country. Game on?
I'll believe it when I see it.
Maybe time for Slovenia to rethink deciding not to send the planes the said they would to Ukraine. Send em the planes.
Slovakia not Slovenia.
Correct. My bad
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AgsMyDude said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

AgsMyDude said:

2wealfth Man said:

I keep reiterating that there is no way Russian forces are going to be able to hold any appreciably sized territory that they may "take". No logistics, demoralized front line soldiers, Uke's getting more advanced weapons everyday and a fanatical populace. The whole thing is sad to watch; so useless.

Agree. The Ukrainians aren't going to let them institute some puppet government and just lie down/obey.

Going to get nasty and so many will continue to die in a worthless battle.


They'll probably assassinate them

All 40 million of them?
The Quislings. When those things happen a lot of people's family/friends start disappearing. Staffing a government, even a puppet one, with just Russians where everyone or a significant part of the population is pouring sugar in your fuel tanks, dropping caltrips, sabotaging rail lines and aircraft, sniping in the cities, planting IEDs, etc. Is going to be brutal. And if the Russians start overrunning stuff, a lot of anti-tank and manpads will get buried and then all of a sudden you're going to be unable to take off from an airport or run a train or a tank in that country without major issues. And those people will find ways into Moscow, St. Petersburg, Rostov and elsewhere and then terror attacks all over Russia.
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wbt5845 said:

Anonymous continues taking the war to the Russian people. Hacking credit card systems for gas station chains today.




I think anonymous is really every government cyber warfare division.
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****ING FINALLY!!!
Faustus
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/01/world/ukraine-russia-war

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After the Russian military had publicly warned it intended to strike sites in the city of Kyiv on Tuesday, and warned civilians to stay clear of them, two large explosions rattled the city at about 10:40. It wasn't immediately clear what was hit. The Russian military had said it would target offices of the Ukrainian domestic intelligence agency, called the SBU.

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Apple said it had paused the sale of all of its products in Russia and pulled the RT News and Sputnik News apps from its App Store outside of Russia. It's the latest tech company to pull back from some Russian operations in response to the invasion of Ukraine.
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Irish 2.0 said:

****ING FINALLY!!!

Took them long enough
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Irish 2.0 said:



"Respect for the positions of all"

That's ****ing rich.
Rossticus
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What horse ***** "Legitimate and Balanced" is Russian for "everything we want".
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Dilettante said:

Do we have a way to measure the sentiment of Ukrainians on a macro scale? Or Russians for that matter? I guess reporters on the ground is the best way in Ukraine?


I'm sure it's mixed. Here's A post from a guy with family in both countries.


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GAC06 said:

I don't see how they can take Kiev if the people really fight it out. The Russians are showing a serious lack of will combined with major command and control issues. Communication on unencrypted radios and by cell phone? Think about when we went into Fallujah. That took us a month and a half of detailed highly coordinated attacks. Granted the Russians don't seem to care about casualties like we do but that just goes back to their will to fight problem.
or what will be left of Kiev to take. We are seeing some great efforts by the Ukes, were also seeing some horrific destruction, and sadly I suspect were only getting a glimpse of the destruction.

Both tankers and drones are no longer transponding, yet there are 2 E3s and a UK Airbu330 (CC/SIG) in orbit track. my prayer is somebody is flying sorties against the russians while its still dark.
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JobSecurity said:


I unfortunately have the sinking feeling that he'll go down as a martyr before this thing ends
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jabberwalkie09 said:

Irish 2.0 said:



"Respect for the positions of all"

That's ****ing rich.


How do you say "Go Fk yourself" in Russian.
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Irish 2.0 said:




Support diplomacy by staying the **** out of other countries
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AgsMyDude said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

AgsMyDude said:

2wealfth Man said:

I keep reiterating that there is no way Russian forces are going to be able to hold any appreciably sized territory that they may "take". No logistics, demoralized front line soldiers, Uke's getting more advanced weapons everyday and a fanatical populace. The whole thing is sad to watch; so useless.

Agree. The Ukrainians aren't going to let them institute some puppet government and just lie down/obey.

Going to get nasty and so many will continue to die in a worthless battle.


They'll probably assassinate them

All 40 million of them?

The Ukrainians will assassinate the puppet government
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No Spin Ag said:

jabberwalkie09 said:

Irish 2.0 said:



"Respect for the positions of all"

That's ****ing rich.


How do you say "Go Fk yourself" in Russian.
According to google it is idi na khuy
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wangus12 said:

JobSecurity said:


I unfortunately have the sinking feeling that he'll go down as a martyr before this thing ends
I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened already. Their military/defense is spread so freaking thin across the country right now and he's been posting pictures/videos where you can tell where he's at.

I also think the Ukrainians are fabricating a lot of these stories. Either that, or the Russians are so bad at this and fractured that the Ukrainians know everything that's coming and are setting traps.
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No Spin Ag said:

jabberwalkie09 said:

Irish 2.0 said:



"Respect for the positions of all"

That's ****ing rich.


How do you say "Go Fk yourself" in Russian.


The phonic pronunciation is: Idi na khuy

TexAgs doesn't accommodate Russian text.
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Here is a link to 16 live webcam views of Kiev on a continuous YouTube stream:

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ATX_AG_08 said:

Dilettante said:

Do we have a way to measure the sentiment of Ukrainians on a macro scale? Or Russians for that matter? I guess reporters on the ground is the best way in Ukraine?


I'm sure it's mixed. Here's A post from a guy with family in both countries.





Russians are getting zero news about what's going on. Most don't even know Ukraine has been invaded. They think Russian troops are just in the breakaway regions. State media and propaganda is on full blast.
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Irish 2.0 said:


i'm reminded of the Ukrainian Ambassador to the UN's statement to Russia:
"Your words have less value than a hole in the New York pretzel"

gee Russia, I can't imagine why Ukraine doesn't want to talk to you right now...
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Wrec86 Ag said:

wangus12 said:

JobSecurity said:


I unfortunately have the sinking feeling that he'll go down as a martyr before this thing ends
I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened already. Their military/defense is spread so freaking thin across the country right now and he's been posting pictures/videos where you can tell where he's at.

I also think the Ukrainians are fabricating a lot of these stories. Either that, or the Russians are so bad at this and fractured that the Ukrainians know everything that's coming and are setting traps.

Well it's clear that the Ukes let a lot of spearheads go by and then ambushed the hell out of their forward logistics.
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Rossticus said:

No Spin Ag said:

jabberwalkie09 said:

Irish 2.0 said:



"Respect for the positions of all"

That's ****ing rich.


How do you say "Go Fk yourself" in Russian.


The phonic pronunciation is: Idi na khuy

TexAgs doesn't accommodate Russian text.
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