***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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In reply to Rossticus • 5:46a, 3/1/22
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Seems like something has changed in the last 18 hours in a very bad way for the Ukes, like someone has influenced them to not support as much. I sure hope it was not us.
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In reply to JFABNRGR • 5:54a, 3/1/22
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Seems like something has changed in the last 18 hours in a very bad way for the Ukes, like someone has influenced them to not support as much. I sure hope it was not us.


The fact is that Ukraine simply cannot hold out against Russia solo and never could. They've fared better than anticipated due to sheer incompetence on Russia's part but they're massively outgunned. Russia is attacking urban centers and not just military targets.

They'll level Kyiv and take it. They'll level Kharkiv and take it. They'll level Kherson and take it. They'll consolidate and close off everything east of Kyiv. They'll rest, resupply, regroup, and then move west. We'll watch because of "better them than us", whether you agree with it or not.

I hope I'm wrong and a miracle occurs but it will take a miracle at this point.
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In reply to Rossticus • 5:59a, 3/1/22
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Rossticus said:
JFABNRGR said:
Seems like something has changed in the last 18 hours in a very bad way for the Ukes, like someone has influenced them to not support as much. I sure hope it was not us.


The fact is that Ukraine simply cannot hold out against Russia solo and never could. They've fared better than anticipated due to sheer incompetence on Russia's part but they're massively outgunned. Russia is attacking urban centers and not just military targets.

They'll level Kyiv and take it. They'll level Kharkiv and take it. They'll level Kherson and take it. They'll consolidate and close off everything east of Kyiv. They'll rest, resupply, regroup, and then move west. We'll watch because of "better them than us", whether you agree with it or not.

I hope I'm wrong and a miracle occurs but it will take a miracle at this point.


Russia won't level kyev its a cultural Mecca for the Eastern Orthodox Church and Russia in particular. They will create a humanitarian crisis and attempt to starve the people
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In reply to FarmerFran • 6:04a, 3/1/22
If that works then sure. If not then they'll resort to mass fire.
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6:31a, 3/1/22
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6:36a, 3/1/22


If accurate, this should really settle things down
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 6:40a, 3/1/22
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If accurate, this should really settle things down
Not really. The EU isn't a military union. Russia's issue is with NATO and doesn't give a f*** about EU membership. Honestly, long-term this is probably worse for the Ukranian economy. But given it is about to be a puppet state for Russia (still holding out a sliver of hope for them), not too bothered by that aspect of it. Hell, if it becomes a puppet state it'll just poison the EU well with further Russian meddling.
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6:56a, 3/1/22
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In reply to The Fall Guy • 6:58a, 3/1/22
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Remove everything after the "?" to imbed tweets.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 7:04a, 3/1/22
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JobSecurity said:


That is moving fast
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In reply to Rossticus • 7:05a, 3/1/22
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Hope nobody was home.

The video is a classic example of the evil that is the Russian military. There is nobody in that apartment building that is shooting at or attacking the Russian forces. No military reason to blow it up other than to cause death and destruction to the civilians.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 7:14a, 3/1/22
Leave homes and go where?
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In reply to SwigAg11 • 7:15a, 3/1/22
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JobSecurity said:


That is moving fast
I find confirmation that voting for candiate status will happen today, but nothing confirming that voting on membership will be immediate. If that happens, I would expect that we will immediately enter WWIII, as European countries will then need to deploy their militaries directly into Ukraine..
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In reply to Rossticus • 7:16a, 3/1/22
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Leave homes and go where?
Presumably their graves.
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7:16a, 3/1/22
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Anywhere away from those targets I guess

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In reply to solishu • 7:18a, 3/1/22
solishu said:
SwigAg11 said:
JobSecurity said:


That is moving fast
I find confirmation that voting for candiate status will happen today, but nothing confirming that voting on membership will be immediate. If that happens, I would expect that we will immediately enter WWIII, as European countries will then need to deploy their militaries directly into Ukraine..


The Eu is not NATO and members will not require member nations to deploy anything to Ukraine.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 7:18a, 3/1/22
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Anywhere away from those targets I guess

Given Russia's recent record on "strategic" bombing, the safest place to be is at the SBU facilities.
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In reply to Houston Lee • 7:19a, 3/1/22
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David Wallace said:
Rossticus said:
Hope nobody was home.

The video is a classic example of the evil that is the Russian military. There is nobody in that apartment building that is shooting at or attacking the Russian forces. No military reason to blow it up other than to cause death and destruction to the civilians.


Exactly why it's time to strike back.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 7:19a, 3/1/22
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Anywhere away from those targets I guess



Soooo… unspecified targets being used for unspecified information warfare. Sounds like an excuse for indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas to me. And define "information attacks"… ?
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In reply to Rossticus • 7:23a, 3/1/22
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It is clear Ukraine is winning the information war without a doubt.
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 7:24a, 3/1/22
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Agthatbuilds said:


If accurate, this should really settle things down
Not really. The EU isn't a military union. Russia's issue is with NATO and doesn't give a f*** about EU membership. Honestly, long-term this is probably worse for the Ukranian economy. But given it is about to be a puppet state for Russia (still holding out a sliver of hope for them), not too bothered by that aspect of it. Hell, if it becomes a puppet state it'll just poison the EU well with further Russian meddling.


I respectfully disagree. If you think the EU will just let Russia invaded an EU country you're off base.
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7:25a, 3/1/22
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The Ukrainians have to use time as their ally and cede ground strategically to avoid large parts of their military getting encircled and destroyed. They will have to show the Russians that the war will continue even if Kiev falls just like the Russians showed Napoleon after Moscow fell. They have to keep the supply lines open from the west and just survive. I don't believe Russian morale will hold if the Ukrainians can sustain effective combat operations in western Ukraine. I also don't believe the Russians can keep their units effectively supplied for a long duration.

I want to see what happens in Russia when their financial markets reopen. Putin is going to take heat from the massive wealth evaporation that is going to occur in Russia.

I also think the idea of foreign legions operating in Ukraine is a way around open NATO combat operations. Foreign volunteer units operated during the Spanish Civil War. Certainly no reason they could not operate in Ukraine. US/EU could even finance and equip the volunteer units.

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Yikes.
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7:30a, 3/1/22
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Russia is NOT going to be able to hold plots of territory with forces they have their now. The tactics will shift to guerilla style fighting. A very bad proposition for the Russia with all the portable weapons floating around there. And therein lies the major problem Putin created when they went in and utterly failed in the first days of this action.
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In reply to Big Al 1992 • 7:30a, 3/1/22
Clearly a military target…
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7:31a, 3/1/22
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One big development that nobody seems to be talking about is how China is separating itself from Russia.

That is a big deal. Because if they were teamed up and China was supplying Russia and decided to sanction us from it's goods, we would be FFFFF-ed. Everything economically bad going on in Russia right now would instead be happening here (and maybe worse).
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 7:32a, 3/1/22
Agthatbuilds said:
Irish 2.0 said:
Agthatbuilds said:


If accurate, this should really settle things down
Not really. The EU isn't a military union. Russia's issue is with NATO and doesn't give a f*** about EU membership. Honestly, long-term this is probably worse for the Ukranian economy. But given it is about to be a puppet state for Russia (still holding out a sliver of hope for them), not too bothered by that aspect of it. Hell, if it becomes a puppet state it'll just poison the EU well with further Russian meddling.


I respectfully disagree. If you think the EU will just let Russia invaded an EU country you're off base.
They weren't an EU country during the invasion. They can't retroactively say that the EU was attacked because they granted membership to a country while it was being invaded. It is an after the fact. The EU isn't a military union. They will just keep doing what they're doing and sending supplies. No country that is both EU and NATO will send people that aren't volunteers. Ukraine isn't a NATO country and thus the EU is powerless in this. It is simply symbolic unless Ukraine wins.

I'm curious as to what more you think the EU will do that it hasn't already done.
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