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Ruskys have taken a town…. But for how long ?

Carlo4 said:

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Jsimonds58 said:

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Wow, the European Union has just announced after the earlier announcement that NATO Provided Combat Aircraft will be Fighting in Ukrainian Airspace within the next hour, this could completely change the War.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) February 27, 2022

Holy ****

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Ukraine… on your left.

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Not that the result was in doubt but this is the first confirmation I've seen

AND NOW THIS ... (Reuters) - A referendum in Belarus on Sunday approved a new constitution ditching the country's non-nuclear status at a time when the former Soviet republic has become a launch pad for Russian troops invading Ukraine, Russian news agencies said.

— Phil Stewart (@phildstewart) February 27, 2022

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Jsimonds58 said:

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Wow, the European Union has just announced after the earlier announcement that NATO Provided Combat Aircraft will be Fighting in Ukrainian Airspace within the next hour, this could completely change the War.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) February 27, 2022

Holy ****

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no blue checkmark, is this legit?

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these guys are legit. They utilize open source networks to corroborate intel prior to posting.

fullback44 said:

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Ruskys have taken a town…. But for how long ?

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It's a meaningless town strategically, according to military expert on the news channels…

So essentially Russia can now park nukes there?

JobSecurity said:

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Not that the result was in doubt but this is the first confirmation I've seen

AND NOW THIS ... (Reuters) - A referendum in Belarus on Sunday approved a new constitution ditching the country's non-nuclear status at a time when the former Soviet republic has become a launch pad for Russian troops invading Ukraine, Russian news agencies said.

— Phil Stewart (@phildstewart) February 27, 2022

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Next nations up: Japan and Israel.

Jayhawk said:

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Flying in #Ukraine skies within the hour. https://t.co/8NKJiP8upG

— Alexandre Krauss (@AlexandreKrausz) February 27, 2022

I have no idea how this works logistically in terms of airspace, or which airport they'd use (probably Lviv).. but the Euros are not messing around. They have turned off their techno and are now blasting Wagner.

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Who pilots these? Ukraine?

I understand the Euro combat aircraft announcement as meaning that the Euros are going to fly in aircraft which will then be turned over to the Ukrainian Air Force to operate... are some folks understanding it as the Europeans are going to themselves be flying sorties in Ukrainian airspace? At that point we have a no fly zone and active air combat against the Russians is almost inevitable.

If it is in fact a donation program, then the military problem becomes how to the Ukrainians keep those assets safe and operational on the ground (probably from Lviv) for it to make a difference?

Like Lend Lease

Jayhawk said:

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Flying in #Ukraine skies within the hour. https://t.co/8NKJiP8upG

— Alexandre Krauss (@AlexandreKrausz) February 27, 2022

I have no idea how this works logistically in terms of airspace, or which airport they'd use (probably Lviv).. but the Euros are not messing around. They have turned off their techno and are now blasting Wagner.

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It's not surprising in the least to me. The Ukes lost most of their aircraft on the ground on the first day. There was a video from first 12 hours that showed a lot of blasted MiGs on the ground.

That also means it is extremely likely that the pilots and most of the support staff are alive and well and probably fighting each other over every spare cockpit. They have been fighting with what they can so at least one runway and logistics area is still operational.

Russia not securing the air is so dumb and bad even the most slack jawed idiot knows it was a grievous tactical blunder and every hour is simply reinforcing that.

ETA: Meant to reply to poster surprised by this

Carlo4 said:

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Jsimonds58 said:

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Wow, the European Union has just announced after the earlier announcement that NATO Provided Combat Aircraft will be Fighting in Ukrainian Airspace within the next hour, this could completely change the War.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) February 27, 2022

Holy ****

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Ukraine… on your left.

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No kidding. What a collossal strategic blunder by Putin.

Double post

Man I hope the Ukrainian pilots and ground crews can make good on this chance the Euros are taking for them. If the Uke air force guys are anything like their ground combatants though I suspect they will make the Russians feel the pain of death from above.

Hell yes! Let's get those folks some help!

Jayhawk said:

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Man I hope the Ukrainian pilots and ground crews can make good on this chance the Euros are taking for them. If the Uke air force guys are anything like their ground combatants though I suspect they will make the Russians feel the pain of death from above.

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Russian SAM systems are no joke. They need to also locate those TOS-1 MLRS's and take them out immediately.

Can drone aircraft be tracked easily by radar? I wonder if we could have drones flown in from Nevada attacking those mechanized columns, would Russia be able to pinpoint where they originated from?

They would not fly from Nevada. They might be controlled by somebody in Nevada.

Would Ukrainians be able to pilot NATO planes? All the Ukrainian AF combat aircraft are Soviet/Russian origin. I'm assuming these advanced fighters aren't interchangeable, they can't just jump in an F-16 and be good to go, right? I have zero pilot experience, so just asking.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force

These NATO surplus Mig-29 will have NATO standard comms & nav.

Ukraine has enough pilots to fly these planes. They left the UAF to fly with now grounded Ukrainian airlines.

It will take a week of high intensity simulator time in NATO nations for renewed proficiency. https://t.co/iJpmEj21Iv pic.twitter.com/TMhtScvhWB

— Trent Telenko (@TrentTelenko) February 27, 2022

this guy is a good follow. Some more info on where pilots (in addition to UAF not currently flying) might come from.

Señor Chang said:

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Would Ukrainians be able to pilot NATO planes? All the Ukrainian AF combat aircraft are Soviet/Russian origin. I'm assuming these advanced fighters aren't interchangeable, they can't just jump in an F-16 and be good to go, right? I have zero pilot experience, so just asking.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force

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No, you can't just jump in. They would be able to fly the plane with a quick crash course but understanding the combat systems and how to employ them is a massive amount of knowledge.

Does NATO have aircraft that Ukranian pilots could operate?

If the plan is to hand over aircraft, sending them a bunch of Typhoons won't do them any good will it?

'03ag said:

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Does NATO have aircraft that Ukranian pilots could operate?

If the plan is to hand over aircraft, sending them a bunch of Typhoons won't do them any good will it?

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Several NATO countries have left over Soviet stuff.

I posted this on the other thread but it may fit in better over here.

Russian Media posted this a bit early, it was archived multiple places before they removed it from their website.
It's an article prewritten for the Russian victory over Ukraine.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

https://archive.fo/TKu53

Some quotes.

A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia's military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era - and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system - but this is worth talking about separately a little later.

Now this problem is gone - Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world.

Did someone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin , seriously believe that Moscow would give up Kiev ?

Because the construction of a new world order - and this is the third dimension of current events - is accelerating, and its contours are more and more clearly visible through the spreading cover of Anglo-Saxon globalization. A multipolar world has finally become a reality - the operation in Ukraine is not capable of rallying anyone but the West against Russia. Because the rest of the world sees and understands perfectly well - this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia's return of its historical space and its place in the world.

China and India , Latin America and Africa , the Islamic world and Southeast Asia - no one believes that the West leads the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not only challenged the West, it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, naturally, together with the West (united or not) - but not on its terms and not according to its rules.

txaggie02 said:

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Those little Chechen *******s just had the tide turned against them. Hopefully they are all lined up so that one drone can clean em all out.

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I still get nightmares of those chechen ****s. ****em

BenTheGoodAg said:

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hbtheduce said:

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Yeah, Unless there are Ukrainian nationals in NATO countries that can fly it.

The NATO countries are walking a VERY fine line here. Seems like the powers at be want to throw us into full on confrontation with Russia.

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Just can't get there with this opinion. NATO isn't walking the fine line here - Russia is. Appeasement have never worked, and never will. The world needs to stand up to tyrants like Putin. Glad to see Europe taking on the burden in cleaning up the trash in their own continent.

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We've already essentially declared war on Russia. We're supplying Ukraine and sanctioning their economy. If I'm Russia that's declaration of war