Been my fear since the beginning. There is no losing for him. He will not simply say "My bad guys. You're right and I shouldn't have done this." Still saying this guy will lob a nuke is 50/50.

Irish 2.0 said:

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JobSecurity said:

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Russia has begun to organize the withdrawal of its citizens out of Europe, the Russian Air Transport agency said Sunday. The agency is currently collecting information but specifics on time and itinerary will be determined based on specific circumstances. #cgtnamerica

— CGTN (@CGTNOfficial) February 27, 2022

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Oh. Dandy.

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Trying to get all of their oligarchs back in country?

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Most if not all of the important ones are already there. Putin called them home before he started

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WOW! That was kind of dumb of them to put themselves under his boot.

Love Gun said:

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aggiehawg said:

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It’s a mistake to view #Putin threats are just posturing

If they find themselves losing in a conventional war #Russia military doctrine calls for escalation to force negotiations by using non-strategic short-range missiles,artillery shells & land mines with nuclear warheads.

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) February 27, 2022

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Land mines have warheads?

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wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_demolition_munition

There are still 3 currently operating that are due to shut down this year as part of the phase out. No way that happens now with the uncertainty in LNG access

Love Gun said:

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aggiehawg said:

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It’s a mistake to view #Putin threats are just posturing

If they find themselves losing in a conventional war #Russia military doctrine calls for escalation to force negotiations by using non-strategic short-range missiles,artillery shells & land mines with nuclear warheads.

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) February 27, 2022

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Land mines have warheads?

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All sorts of **** had nuclear variants back in the day.

Irish 2.0 said:

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Germany preparing to turn their nuke plants back up

Now...

"Germany mulls extending nuclear plants' life-span - economy minister" Reuters

— Daniel Lacalle (@dlacalle_IA) February 27, 2022

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It's sad how often reality has to slap some people upside the head to wake them up. It was all so predictable. At least it's not too late to turn back a terrible decision.

98Ag99Grad said:

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Been my fear since the beginning. There is no losing for him. He will not simply say "My bad guys. You're right and I shouldn't have done this." Still saying this guy will lob a nuke is 50/50.

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Then we need to hope that he gets removed from power by whatever means necessary before that happens. Russian Oligrachs do not rationally want to risk nuclear-level engagement. They have a lot to lose.

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98Ag99Grad said:

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Been my fear since the beginning. There is no losing for him. He will not simply say "My bad guys. You're right and I shouldn't have done this." Still saying this guy will lob a nuke is 50/50.

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Then we need to hope that he gets removed from power by whatever means necessary before that happens. Russian Oligrachs do not rational want to risk nuclear-level engagement. They have a lot to lose.

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With the ruble collapsing I could see someone buying off military personnel to take him out.

Crude. Gold. Dollar. All up together. What?!

Ruble hasn't budged against USD. I'm not even sure it's trading. How are their banks marking rates?

Yeah, yeah, futures are down here. So much can change by tomorrow morning.

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98Ag99Grad said:

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Been my fear since the beginning. There is no losing for him. He will not simply say "My bad guys. You're right and I shouldn't have done this." Still saying this guy will lob a nuke is 50/50.

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Then we need to hope that he gets removed from power by whatever means necessary before that happens. Russian Oligrachs do not rational want to risk nuclear-level engagement. They have a lot to lose.

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With the ruble collapsing I could see someone buying off military personnel to take him out.

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I have a hard time believing that Putin and the oligarchs that run Russia have some sort of death pact. Someone in that group has to be rational and understand that MAD means nobody wins and there are no more yachts and miniature giraffes after a nuclear exchange. Putin has not gone gangster in Ukraine either because he wanted to keep the infrastructure in place or try and maintain public opinion, the latter obviously did not work. An irrational Putin would have went HAM right out of the gates if he truly didn't care.

The Chinese also lose big if Putin pushes the button. They lose their biggest trading partners Europe and the US and have to deal with the nuclear fallout that will surely affect them.

My point is that either Putin is bluffing or somebody is going to take him out.

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98Ag99Grad said:

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98Ag99Grad said:

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Been my fear since the beginning. There is no losing for him. He will not simply say "My bad guys. You're right and I shouldn't have done this." Still saying this guy will lob a nuke is 50/50.

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Then we need to hope that he gets removed from power by whatever means necessary before that happens. Russian Oligrachs do not rational want to risk nuclear-level engagement. They have a lot to lose.

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With the ruble collapsing I could see someone buying off military personnel to take him out.

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I have a hard time believing that Putin and the oligarchs that run Russia have some sort of death pact. Someone in that group has to be rational and understand that MAD means nobody wins and there are no more yachts and miniature giraffes after a nuclear exchange. Putin has not gone gangster in Ukraine either because he wanted to keep the infrastructure in place or try and maintain public opinion, the latter obviously did not work. An irrational Putin would have went HAM right out of the gates if he truly didn't care.

The Chinese also lose big if Putin pushes the button. They lose their biggest trading partners Europe and the US and have to deal with the nuclear fallout that will surely affect them.

My point is that either Putin is bluffing or somebody is going to take him out.

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Why not both?

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*U.S.: CITIZENS IN RUSSIA SHOULD CONSIDER DEPARTING IMMEDIATELY.

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 27, 2022

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This is actually (official) big news to me, especially after Russia threatens the world with Nuclear. Even though it is mostly talk and very unlikely, a 1% chance is still too much for me.

I saw some posts about removing Russians from the US. I prefer to have them here and track them because I know if there is a sudden evacuation, then it is more serious than 1%.

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Really? Tracking Russians here? Many of whom are American Citizens?

What's next, you want to put them in internment camps like we did to the Japanese in WW2?

WTF is wrong with you?

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Sorry, that's not what I meant. This probably has more to do with available flights and civil unrest like the previous poster. I should say that I see this as an indicator of the seriousness of the current events. When countries start to pull their citizens back, things are getting real not like it hasn't already.

This has been mostly nice.

Let stay on topic here men.

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98Ag99Grad said:

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Been my fear since the beginning. There is no losing for him. He will not simply say "My bad guys. You're right and I shouldn't have done this." Still saying this guy will lob a nuke is 50/50.

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Then we need to hope that he gets removed from power by whatever means necessary before that happens. Russian Oligrachs do not rational want to risk nuclear-level engagement. They have a lot to lose.

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With the ruble collapsing I could see someone buying off military personnel to take him out.

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The second a GoFundMe pops up I'm in.

Jsimonds58 said:

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Wow, the European Union has just announced after the earlier announcement that NATO Provided Combat Aircraft will be Fighting in Ukrainian Airspace within the next hour, this could completely change the War.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) February 27, 2022

Holy ****

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no blue checkmark, is this legit?

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Can an Abrams with modern plating take a hit from a Javelin or NLAW?

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I don't know for sure. The Javalin is a top-attack weapons that can very likely penetrate the top armor on an Abrams. That has probably been tested by the results are no doubt classified.

Jayhawk said:

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Flying in #Ukraine skies within the hour. https://t.co/8NKJiP8upG

— Alexandre Krauss (@AlexandreKrausz) February 27, 2022

I have no idea how this works logistically in terms of airspace, or which airport they'd use (probably Lviv).. but the Euros are not messing around. They have turned off their techno and are now blasting Wagner.

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Maybe a Flyign Tigers sort of situation?