Seems like things calm down for a couple hours before dawn.

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JobSecurity said:

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I wonder if the orders relate to the post earlier about orders to take Kyiv by Monday at any cost?

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Then we're more than likely about to see Kyiv turn into a modern day Dresden.

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No way. I don't see it happening.

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I was being hyperbolic, but I think Putin would probably find some degree of destroying the city as acceptable. They've displayed a willingness to deal damage without regard before in both Chechnya and Syria.

No confirmation

❗️There is information that a landing operation took place near #Borispol. pic.twitter.com/kiCKWI6DJx

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) February 27, 2022

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Keegan99 said:

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My SWAG would be thermobaric. Those have been seen in theater, reportedly.

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TOS-1 was confirmed near Mariupol I believe. Not near Kiev.

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TOS-1's have been spotted in a couple of areas. Today one was spotted in Takmok. They have been spotted near Belgorod as well. I'd put money on the videos that have come from around Kharkiv showing the artillery attack was from TOS-1's from near Belgorod.

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The TOS-1 Buratinos only have a range of about 6km. They are basically a weapons for reducing a nearby fortified position. Belgorod is about 80km from Kharkiv and they have had time to cover that distance since they were spotted this morning moving across the border from Belgorod.

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Got ya. I missed the movement this morning.

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Keegan99 said:

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#Russian military leaders should think very carefully before following the orders they recently received #Putin is 2 years shy of the life expectancy of a Russian male
and you will spend the rest of your lives evading an international tribunal for committing his crimes

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) February 27, 2022

Well that's ominous as hell.

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Wonder what the orders were?

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Thermobaric vacuum bombs are about to be used I think.

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worried you may be right.

Found this interesting too.

Also much respect to the international online #OSINT community, many of whom may not realize how much of their geolocation & vetting of videos & satellite imagery is integrated into the broader work of the intelligence community

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) February 27, 2022

Kyiv has not fallen. My guys in the capital: pic.twitter.com/CMEOMm4GJv

— Michael Weiss 🌻 (@michaeldweiss) February 27, 2022

If Putin goes full 'tard and decides to deploy something beyond currently in use conventional weapons, it will likely the aforementioned thermoberic bombs. All of the bang of a low yield nuke, but without the radiation and global condemnation. Russia already used thermoberic weapons in Syria on numerous occasions.

Here is the Russians playing with their TOS-1 in 2019.

Boooo

The Australian Government has just announced that starting today the will begin to provide Lethal Aid to Ukraine through the NATO Alliance though no specific Systems or Weapons were mentioned.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) February 27, 2022

⚡️Air raid alert in Rivne region & Lutsk.

People should go to the nearest shelter.

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) February 27, 2022

At what point does Russia try to take control of the Ukraine border with Poland. Its the only way to prevent resupply of Ukraine at this point unless you are going to try and hit the resupply by air as moving across Ukraine.

No way they go anywhere near the Polish border. There's likely a mutually understood tripwire point which would spark all out NATO intervention.

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At what point does Russia try to take control of the Ukraine border with Poland. Its the only way to prevent resupply of Ukraine at this point unless you are going to try and hit the resupply by air as moving across Ukraine.

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They've tried unsuccessfully to take the Lviv airfield. I'm not sure how else they would be able to. That's not a small border and they'd have to consider Romania too

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If Putin goes full 'tard and decides to deploy something beyond currently in use conventional weapons, it will likely the aforementioned thermoberic bombs. All of the bang of a low yield nuke, but without the radiation and global condemnation. Russia already used thermoberic weapons in Syria on numerous occasions.

Here is the Russians playing with their TOS-1 in 2019.

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Oh I would not bet on no global condemnation.

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I still love Marco.

And I find it fascinating that he's tweeting the things that he is. I ****ing love it.

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Pretty sure by the transitive property of "the enemy or my enemy is my friend" , Marco is Ukrainian.

Castro > Putin > **** those guys

What is the range on those?

Looks like the armaments could be taken out before they are positioned to fire.

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JobSecurity said:

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I wonder if the orders relate to the post earlier about orders to take Kyiv by Monday at any cost?

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Then we're more than likely about to see Kyiv turn into a modern day Dresden.

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No way. I don't see it happening.

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I was being hyperbolic, but I think Putin would probably find some degree of destroying the city as acceptable. They've displayed a willingness to deal damage without regard before in both Chechnya and Syria.

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I get your point. But I just do not get the feeling that he can get away with that. He may not have forces willing to do it. The surrounding countries may not allow it.

Aleppo and Sarajevo happened because they were really civil wars. Grozny was in Asia. This is a major capital city of a sovereign western European democracy.

Don't think so. Maybe there will be some limited sporadic shelling and maybe even several thousand casualties. But nothing like the others.

That's what I have not understood this entire time. How in the hell does Putin think he is going to take a city the size of San Diego with an armed and ready to die population without, I dont know, half a million troops?

I think Putin is in a lot of trouble.

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At what point does Russia try to take control of the Ukraine border with Poland. Its the only way to prevent resupply of Ukraine at this point unless you are going to try and hit the resupply by air as moving across Ukraine.

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Russia is having a tough enough time to control the areas that it currently has and hasn't taken a major city center. I don't really see them making a play for that. The Russians have largely stayed away from the western part of the country. They would have to push down from Belarus imo. Even then, Poland is only one part of the equation since Ukraine borders Romania, Hungary, and Slovakia. A lot of real estate that would need quite a few assets.

The one reported attempt to do an air assault/paratroop insertion said that they tried to land and they chased them into the tree line.

Suhmymuhfuhdihbih

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Shock & Awe was 2003, not the Gulf War.

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My mistake

Very skeptical of this but would be massive

According to TASS, a Russian-state news outlet, Belarusian President Lukashenko REJECTED the deployment of nuclear weapons in his country. https://t.co/5xqq2nxqds

— Doge (@IntelDoge) February 27, 2022