Two sides of same coin!BusterAg said:I don't think it is so much that people love underdogs as they hate bloodthirsty invaders.YouBet said:The longer this has gone on the more support you've seen from the rest of the planet about supporting Ukraine. The longer this goes on the more NATO is going to actually do something. People love an underdog and the fact that Ukraine is showing fight has people rallying to their cause.rgag12 said:
I don't get the notion that Russia is working against some clock. They've reached and almost encircled the enemy capital in less than 2 days. The president of Ukraine is wanting to die defending city, or so he portrays.
If the ultimate goal is to overthrow the government and install a pro-Russian puppet, what's the difference if it takes 3 days versus 7 days. The prestige?
Russia knows this. If they don't end this quickly, they stand a chance of more and more direct support for Ukraine.
When is the last time someone has gotten away with a violent incursion (other than the U.S.)?
Clashes on going on the east bank of the Dnieper, outskirts of Kiev
— Alexander McKeever (@AKMcKeever) February 26, 2022
50.526717, 30.607006 https://t.co/EUN0Ay9zuA pic.twitter.com/fL9ftx5pOS
Shared this way early on but former US officials have already said we would supply and wage a proxy, guerrilla war in Ukraine against Russia.RONA Ag said:
At this point you hope that Ukraine's resolve is strong enough that even if their leadership structure is captured that they are willing to run an all out decentralized guerilla war
Agthatbuilds said:Waffledynamics said:
You can hear fierce fighting on this livestream right as I post this.
Jazz in your feed as well
What do international rules say about an army dressing up in civilian clothes in order to gain some strategic advantage?jabberwalkie09 said:— Michael MacKay (@mhmck) February 26, 2022
Russian army sustainment continues to be a problem for them.
I wonder how much reportedly having to delay the invasion by several days or weeks hurt the level of provisions the formations had with them? Even keeping a force camped on a border is no small feat to keep fed and fueled.jabberwalkie09 said:— Michael MacKay (@mhmck) February 26, 2022
Russian army sustainment continues to be a problem for them.
The problem is morale and spirit. Struggling to move through the country, allowing Ukrainian heroes to pop up, etc are very bad. It would've been extremely helpful to have the Ukrainian army be so demoralized by swift and relentless opposition and switch sides to support whatever "President" they put in because fighting back was impossible. It looks to me that Ukraine is going to fight even when the government falls and that's not a Russian victory. that just means protracted guerrilla war.rgag12 said:
I don't get the notion that Russia is working against some clock. They've reached and almost encircled the enemy capital in less than 2 days. The president of Ukraine is wanting to die defending city, or so he portrays.
If the ultimate goal is to overthrow the government and install a pro-Russian puppet, what's the difference if it takes 3 days versus 7 days. The prestige?
Correct, but the audio is from Kyiv in the top right, currently.Agthatbuilds said:Agthatbuilds said:Waffledynamics said:
You can hear fierce fighting on this livestream right as I post this.
Jazz in your feed as well
This is 4 different cities, correct?
YouBet said:Shared this way early on but former US officials have already said we would supply and wage a proxy, guerrilla war in Ukraine against Russia.RONA Ag said:
At this point you hope that Ukraine's resolve is strong enough that even if their leadership structure is captured that they are willing to run an all out decentralized guerilla war
Do we know it was delayed?txags92 said:I wonder how much reportedly having to delay the invasion by several days or weeks hurt the level of provisions the formations had with them? Even keeping a force camped on a border is no small feat to keep fed and fueled.jabberwalkie09 said:— Michael MacKay (@mhmck) February 26, 2022
Russian army sustainment continues to be a problem for them.
I thought there was a report that we had intelligence that it was going to kick off something like two weeks ago, and for some reason I can't remember, Russia had to postpone it to now.Waffledynamics said:Do we know it was delayed?txags92 said:I wonder how much reportedly having to delay the invasion by several days or weeks hurt the level of provisions the formations had with them? Even keeping a force camped on a border is no small feat to keep fed and fueled.jabberwalkie09 said:— Michael MacKay (@mhmck) February 26, 2022
Russian army sustainment continues to be a problem for them.
Nope on being stable. Probably going to be the crossroads of EuroAsian dysfunction for years.rgag12 said:YouBet said:Shared this way early on but former US officials have already said we would supply and wage a proxy, guerrilla war in Ukraine against Russia.RONA Ag said:
At this point you hope that Ukraine's resolve is strong enough that even if their leadership structure is captured that they are willing to run an all out decentralized guerilla war
No matter what happens, you can count on a LONG civil war after a new government is put in place and a chunk of the Russians leave.
I don't think Ukraine is going to be stable for many many years
txags92 said:I thought there was a report that we had intelligence that it was going to kick off something like two weeks ago, and for some reason I can't remember, Russia had to postpone it to now.Waffledynamics said:Do we know it was delayed?txags92 said:I wonder how much reportedly having to delay the invasion by several days or weeks hurt the level of provisions the formations had with them? Even keeping a force camped on a border is no small feat to keep fed and fueled.jabberwalkie09 said:— Michael MacKay (@mhmck) February 26, 2022
Russian army sustainment continues to be a problem for them.
Periodic iPhone text message notification tooAgthatbuilds said:PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:Agthatbuilds said:PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:
battles in the live stream seem to be getting closer and closer
Link to the ones you're watching?
Definitely rifle fire and yelling being herd on your stream
And, jazz?????
MaroonStain said:
Maybe Putin has a terminal condition and wants to leave his legacy as the same as other Russian "legacies".
Ukraine's President Zelensky rejected the US offer to evacuate.
— Status-6 (@Archer83Able) February 26, 2022
(Washington Post)
Gunfire erupting in central Kyiv pic.twitter.com/eEhVA3hB7l
— Trey Yingst (@TreyYingst) February 26, 2022
Just woke up to the sound of heavy gunfire in central #Kyiv, you can see some tracers in the sky as the battle has moved closer. #Ukraine #Russia pic.twitter.com/7KLOAY5GZ2
— Michael Downey (@mgdowney) February 26, 2022
jabberwalkie09 said:Just woke up to the sound of heavy gunfire in central #Kyiv, you can see some tracers in the sky as the battle has moved closer. #Ukraine #Russia pic.twitter.com/7KLOAY5GZ2
— Michael Downey (@mgdowney) February 26, 2022
Yes, today Russia threatened to deorbit the International Space Station so it crashes into the U.S. or Europe https://t.co/uO69lUpnyO pic.twitter.com/XSQ74XOUYN
— KT CounterIntelligence (@KremlinTrolls) February 26, 2022
Waffledynamics said:
I get a bad feeling that Kyiv is falling tonight.
I also considered this as an optionQuote:
and on the reports of Russians breaking in for food and clothing…. This is beyond any strategy, it's an army breaking and being hit with desertions. Just my opinion
I sure hope they're breaking. Russia needs to learn a harsh lesson.oldmanguy said:
…and on the reports of Russians breaking in for food and clothing…. This is beyond any strategy, it's an army breaking and being hit with desertions. Just my opinion.
⚡️Mayor of #Vasylkiv Natalya #Balasinovich confirmed that a #Russian landing operation takes place in the city despite the downed #IL-76.
— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) February 26, 2022
"A lot of paratroopers have landed in the fields in the whole community, who are now fighting hard with the fighters of our 40th Brigade".
⚠️ Confirmed: Real-time network data show a major disruption to #Ukraine's internet backbone provider GigaTrans, which supplies connectivity to many other networks. The incident comes as heavy fighting is reported in #Vasylkiv and #Kyiv 📉
— NetBlocks (@netblocks) February 26, 2022
📰 Background: https://t.co/S0qJQ7CbNv pic.twitter.com/EksnZjs9Ay
There was definitely heavy fighting on the outskirts.amercer said:Waffledynamics said:
I get a bad feeling that Kyiv is falling tonight.
The sun rises in an hour and a half.
Putin approaching Glenn Close level of psycho ex.Waffledynamics said:
What the absolute hell, Putin?Yes, today Russia threatened to deorbit the International Space Station so it crashes into the U.S. or Europe https://t.co/uO69lUpnyO pic.twitter.com/XSQ74XOUYN
— KT CounterIntelligence (@KremlinTrolls) February 26, 2022