***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Rossticus said:


How long by boat? How long by C-5?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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From Spain to Poland? Maybe a few days. C5 is much shorter, but probably multiple trips for get much cargo. Ship is more economical.
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Rossticus said:




What's that on his head?
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The Russians are already running technicals???
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Rossticus said:


DIY Garbage Truck Kit
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Something sufficiently small to fit his tiny head
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OKC~Ag said:


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When the United States wanted to purchase a fleet of helicopters for the Afghan government in the early 2010s, it chose the Mi-17 sold by a Russian state-owned arms exporter.

The decision infuriated U.S. lawmakers who felt the Pentagon should choose an American manufacturer. But the Defense Department stayed the course, saying the Russian helicopters were relatively inexpensive, functioned well in Afghanistan's desert expanses and high altitudes, and Afghan pilots knew how to fly them.
snipt from the wash post article...

What i find interesting is that we have in storage 11 Mi-17 russian made helicopters in AZ airbase...

Yes, it good to be rich... we poured nearly 5 Billion $ to Ukrainian just start of this conflict. Congress will likely authorize more if needed.

This is one "special operation" Putin can't win...
Putin is running out of options and they're all bad. Unlike Russia, we can do this all day. CHOICES
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ABATTBQ11 said:

From Spain to Poland? Maybe a few days. C5 is much shorter, but probably multiple trips for get much cargo. Ship is more economical.
Ship has 200 tons of weapons. C-5 hauls 140 tons. 2 trips vs days….. Right now, hours count.

https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104492/c-5m-super-galaxy/
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MeatDr said:





PGD the city of Mariupol welcomes you and all of your friends….happy hunting!
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Turks sure know how to make body armor.
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I know a lot of ships sail under, for example, Bermuda flags, but still good.
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B-1 83 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

From Spain to Poland? Maybe a few days. C5 is much shorter, but probably multiple trips for get much cargo. Ship is more economical.
Ship has 200 tons of weapons. C-5 hauls 140 tons. 2 trips vs days….. Right now, hours count.

https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104492/c-5m-super-galaxy/


Thats not even close to what that ship can haul, i think its capable of over 5000 tons. Maybe this is a game of chicken. I think i saw a C5 north bound from spain today as well.
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Update from Wali, the Canadian sniper in Ukraine.



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Officially, I have been in Ukraine for almost 2 months. For me and my peers, it is as if 6 months have already passed. We are here as in another dimension. Events that occurred two weeks ago are already far away in our thoughts.

People have no idea the level of stress soldiers at the front are under. Even when there is no immediate danger, just approaching the unknown and mortal danger creates enormous psychological pressure. Not to mention that at any time, death can strike. Already, many volunteers and soldiers have given up. Many left home in tears. Nobody judges them, because we all have a limit.

On the contrary, we are all respectful of each other's efforts. Judgments and criticisms are only directed at those who were arrogant and chickened out. These do not garner respect from their peers.

Imagine watching a comedian take the stage. For you, there is nothing stressful. But being THE ONE who walks on stage, feels the stage fright, is blinded by the spotlight, and still has to perform, is a whole different experience. Only those who have experienced something similar can understand.

So I invite you to respect the veterans you know. Even those who didn't see the fight, but bravely approached it, deserve a smile or a handshake.

w

Translated from the original French text.
Memorial Day isn't far away. Huge thanks to all veterans.
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Honestly not that much different than some of the jerry rigged humvees we rode in Iraq in 04
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.-Thomas Paine
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JFABNRGR said:

B-1 83 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

From Spain to Poland? Maybe a few days. C5 is much shorter, but probably multiple trips for get much cargo. Ship is more economical.
Ship has 200 tons of weapons. C-5 hauls 140 tons. 2 trips vs days….. Right now, hours count.

https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104492/c-5m-super-galaxy/


Thats not even close to what that ship can haul, i think its capable of over 5000 tons. Maybe this is a game of chicken. I think i saw a C5 north bound from spain today as well.
The headline said 200 tons. That's all I have to go by.
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:


I know a lot of ships sail under, for example, Bermuda flags, but still good.


Owner/operator isn't flagged. Anything Russian isn't coming near American shores. Makes refueling more complicated as well.
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Battles and Beer: A message directly from "Gandalf", a defender of Mariupol. This video was sent to me this morning from "Gandalf" via Telegram.

Gandalf is my last contact from the Ukrainian military inside of the city. This is his message to the world.
https://instagr.am/p/Ccnf9mcrVUg
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"Every day the situation in Mariupol is very dangerous. We constantly can be shot, we constantly can be killed. The civilians are still in danger, despite accusations of the Russian Minister and Russian President that they took control of the city.

This statement was made today, but you know, they do not control the whole city. We still control the Azovstal steelworks and we are still fighting. We destroyed one tank today. Two armored fighting vehicles, and one armored personnel carrier. The numbers of enemy losses are still increasing."

"Russia right now is cowardly, hesitating with the final assault on Azovstal steelworks because they know that they will fail. And they WILL fail. You know, if they will have more courage…at least 10% of our courage, they would fight with us without all this heavy weaponry. Just with the small-arms, that would be a fair fight; but they're not doing a fair fight.

They are showing their cowardly face to the world right now, claiming that Mariupol is taken. Mariupol is not taken.

If someone asks if we need help, yes of course we need help, but we do not need to be rescued. We can rescue others. Thousands of people still, civilian people, hiding in the basements and shelters in the territory of Azovstal, they escaped from the city to find cover here under the protection of Ukrainian soldiers. They were receiving Russian indiscriminate fire."

"The most heartbreaking thing in this, is we have limited supplies and we are trying to share everything with civilians, but Russia claims that we use them as a human shield. It's bull***** It's complete bull**** because you know, a real military doesn't do this, but if you think as Russia, they would do the same. You will think about the civilians as a human shield. They did this in 2008, they already did this in 2014, and they are doing this right now.

My message to the world: Stop Russia. The best thing to do this, is to find your own courage and keep Ukraine safe. How can you do this? Please share your weaponry with us, at least we can fight with these weapons. We need heavy weaponry. We need anti-air systems. We need fighter jets. We need tanks. We need small arms. We need ammunition. We need artillery. With all this arsenal, their imperialistic appetite will be stopped. There will be no more threat to the world, to the free world. There will be no more threat to you, to us. Right now, Ukraine is not just fighting for ourselves, we are fighting for your freedom. Thank you."

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GAC06 said:

Rossticus said:




That's more like it. The original batch of three batteries of 155's was kind of a joke unless they were intended to get the Ukrainians started training all along
I agree, this is some good stuff … 72 mew artillery pieces plus the others we already gave plus all the recent ones from Canada and Sweden and Ukraine will have another 150-200 155 type weapons with plenty of shells now

These New Ghost Drones are interesting … they must have taken an intelligence drone and converted it into a weapon carrying drone … this will be interesting to follow its development
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:


I know a lot of ships sail under, for example, Bermuda flags, but still good.
Credit where it is due. Good Biden.
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Waffledynamics said:

Anyone wonder if it's possible for an outbreak of the soldiers in Mariupol as Russia diverts forces elsewhere?


You never say never but chances of this are as close to none as you can get. They're trapped in a massive steel plant, mostly underground. Russia has decided to starve them out and redirect manpower elsewhere. The defenders are sure to have lots of wounded and dwindling supplies, an organized breakout seems most unlikely.
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Phoenix Ghost won't be able to kill tanks, but medium armor will be a big deal. That's SAM's, APC's, command vehicles, etc. THOSE are the valuable targets that make the tanks super vulnerable.
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RebelE Infantry said:

Waffledynamics said:

Anyone wonder if it's possible for an outbreak of the soldiers in Mariupol as Russia diverts forces elsewhere?


You never say never but chances of this are as close to none as you can get. They're trapped in a massive steel plant, mostly underground. Russia has decided to starve them out and redirect manpower elsewhere. The defenders are sure to have lots of wounded and dwindling supplies, an organized breakout seems most unlikely.
If the Russians are going to surround and stand down, maybe there's a way to resupply them. The perimeter of that complex is huge. If they could buy some time, maybe some reinforcements could allow for a combined assault on the enemy blockaders.

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AGS-R-TUFF said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Waffledynamics said:

Anyone wonder if it's possible for an outbreak of the soldiers in Mariupol as Russia diverts forces elsewhere?


You never say never but chances of this are as close to none as you can get. They're trapped in a massive steel plant, mostly underground. Russia has decided to starve them out and redirect manpower elsewhere. The defenders are sure to have lots of wounded and dwindling supplies, an organized breakout seems most unlikely.
If the Russians are going to surround and stand down, maybe there's a way to resupply them. The perimeter of that complex is huge. If they could buy some time, maybe some reinforcements could allow for a combined assault on the enemy blockaders.




I don't even know about that. Mariupol is deep behind the lines and it would take a major offensive to break through to it. Resupply by sea could maybe work if you can somehow get there undetected by the Black Sea Fleet and Russian air cover. Not very realistic.

Unfortunately for these guys their only options seem to be starve, launch a suicide banzai charge, or surrender.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Phoenix Ghost won't be able to kill tanks, but medium armor will be a big deal. That's SAM's, APC's, command vehicles, etc. THOSE are the valuable targets that make the tanks super vulnerable.

A mobile and light team of guys with Switchblade 300s or an equivalent can take a ton of tanks effectively out of the fight. One guy can carry about five Switchblade 300s from my reading. Has there been a single reported shoot down of a Switchblade 300? Get up close to their lines and kill their fuel trucks and cargo transports from the air behind them. No fuel, food, or ammunition puts the whole lot in a bad way. The Russians are already bad at logistics, hit them where they're weakest.
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RebelE Infantry said:

AGS-R-TUFF said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Waffledynamics said:

Anyone wonder if it's possible for an outbreak of the soldiers in Mariupol as Russia diverts forces elsewhere?


You never say never but chances of this are as close to none as you can get. They're trapped in a massive steel plant, mostly underground. Russia has decided to starve them out and redirect manpower elsewhere. The defenders are sure to have lots of wounded and dwindling supplies, an organized breakout seems most unlikely.
If the Russians are going to surround and stand down, maybe there's a way to resupply them. The perimeter of that complex is huge. If they could buy some time, maybe some reinforcements could allow for a combined assault on the enemy blockaders.




I don't even know about that. Mariupol is deep behind the lines and it would take a major offensive to break through to it. Resupply by sea could maybe work if you can somehow get there undetected by the Black Sea Fleet and Russian air cover. Not very realistic.

Unfortunately for these guys their only options seem to be starve, launch a suicide banzai charge, or surrender.
Contract with the cartels for some narco-subs?
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lb3 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

AGS-R-TUFF said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Waffledynamics said:

Anyone wonder if it's possible for an outbreak of the soldiers in Mariupol as Russia diverts forces elsewhere?


You never say never but chances of this are as close to none as you can get. They're trapped in a massive steel plant, mostly underground. Russia has decided to starve them out and redirect manpower elsewhere. The defenders are sure to have lots of wounded and dwindling supplies, an organized breakout seems most unlikely.
If the Russians are going to surround and stand down, maybe there's a way to resupply them. The perimeter of that complex is huge. If they could buy some time, maybe some reinforcements could allow for a combined assault on the enemy blockaders.




I don't even know about that. Mariupol is deep behind the lines and it would take a major offensive to break through to it. Resupply by sea could maybe work if you can somehow get there undetected by the Black Sea Fleet and Russian air cover. Not very realistic.

Unfortunately for these guys their only options seem to be starve, launch a suicide banzai charge, or surrender.
Contract with the cartels for some narco-subs?


Lol love the out of the box thinking. But I'm not sure the Turks would be too comfy with the idea of letting a narco-sun through the straits.
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300 series has the equivalent of a claymore warhead. Anything armored will shrug it off unless you get really lucky. 600 series can but its bigger and heavier.
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aezmvp said:

300 series has the equivalent of a claymore warhead. Anything armored will shrug it off unless you get really lucky. 600 series can but its bigger and heavier.

And how heavily armored are the Russians fuel trucks?
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Why the F is this even disclosed. If the admin was serious about not escalating, this should never be known.
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PearlJammin said:

Why the F is this even disclosed. If the admin was serious about not escalating, this should never be known.


PsyOps
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Thinking back to when all the western companies pulled out early on in the crisis/conflict, the crazy lines at McDonald's the last day they were open for example, are all of these corporations still holding strong or have any started to quietly resume operations in Russia?
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RebelE Infantry said:

Waffledynamics said:

Anyone wonder if it's possible for an outbreak of the soldiers in Mariupol as Russia diverts forces elsewhere?


You never say never but chances of this are as close to none as you can get. They're trapped in a massive steel plant, mostly underground. Russia has decided to starve them out and redirect manpower elsewhere. The defenders are sure to have lots of wounded and dwindling supplies, an organized breakout seems most unlikely.


This scenario has occurred before I believe in Donetsk Airport when Russia took Crimea. I may have the city wrong but the story is correct. There was a group of Ukrainians soldiers hold up in the ruins of the aiport terminal building. The Russians were never able to purge the Ukrainian resistance while taken on losses……and the Russians began calling those Ukrainian soldiers…..Cyborg because they couldn't be human.

Those guys in the steel mill are there to stay. They don't want to leave….they will kill many many Russians who go in there to kill the ukranian soldiers. There will be many Russians sent home in body bags…….there is no breakout being planned.



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Ukraine currently estimates 21K Russians KIA. If this wasn't some hack just echoing those numbers, Ukraine isn't exaggerating. The leak we saw before also supported Ukraine's KIA estimates, so I've believed the 21K number. If you add a WIA estimate based on history, that's AT LEAST 80-100K Russian soldiers out of the fight at this point, not including POWs. In less than 2 months.

ETA: These numbers probably wouldn't include mercenaries, separatist troops, or Chechens. So it may be even higher.
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