***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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JFABNRGR said:

The Ukrainian people well depicted in this :15 clip. **** putin….at least from the momma bear.





That is some STRONG breeding stock!

That's what you want when you marry a woman. Hot. And Protective!
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Video looks like AI to me. After the explosion, the father's feet are on the right corner while he crawls in from the left. Also, the sneakers are generic. No known trademark symbols on them like Nike or Adidas, etc. Who is videoing a couple like that while they sit in a park?
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Ag97 said:

Video looks like AI to me. After the explosion, the father's feet are on the right corner while he crawls in from the left. Also, the sneakers are generic. No known trademark symbols on them like Nike or Adidas, etc. Who is videoing a couple like that while they sit in a park?


It was part of a much longer clip. Not A.I. This part is zoomed in on that original clip.

But yeah you can't be too careful when seeing these shorter clips and assuming they're real.


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It's hard to keep up with timing as everything feels like Dj vu. They hit that refinery like a week or two ago. Did they hit it again yesterday or is this old news?
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Dunno. I primarily posted that for the little technical nugget on increased drone range.
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Is the cost of diesel in Russia $1.30/liter?

ETA. Currently $1.06/liter



https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Russia/gasoline_prices/
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Waffledynamics said:



Robotic amphibious assault: MORE DETAILS
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bobbranco said:

Is the cost of diesel in Russia $1.30/liter?

ETA. Currently $1.06/liter







I've seen reports of over $22 dollars per liter in Crimea.

Diesel? I have no idea but the prices you quoted seem fantasy land when you have illegal fueling operations happening and you see the destruction of refineries but I think a lot of Russia right now is fantasy land to keep the population from revolting.

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Due to the shortage of diesel in Russia, road freight transportation is disrupted, and strict limits and daily queues have been introduced at gas stations. Chinese direction has been hit the hardest, - Russian media

In the last week and a half alone, the price of truck delivery from China has increased by an average of $700, and the daily mileage of vehicles has fallen from 700 to 500 km. Logistics are forced to launch flights bypassing the Russian Federation via Kazakhstan.

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im watching the price of food in the moscow area vs the outlaying areas where they make the food. the food in moscow is about the same as it was 2 years ago, while the food in the areas where they make the food has nearly doubled.. this has to be costing russia a lot to keep the food down in the main city. the prices should be far higher in moscow so the government is doing something to keep the prices down. this cant go on.






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Sounds as if the situation is devolving into Road Warriors over there.
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Zelenskyy is about to shoot himself in the pecker again. He is weak in some areas that will prove to continually hamstring Ukraine's progress, I'm afraid.

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PJYoung said:


Diesel? I have no idea but the prices you quoted seem fantasy land when you have illegal fueling operations happening and you see the destruction of refineries but I think a lot of Russia right now is fantasy land to keep the population from revolting.




True, my information may be fantasy land. Probably a mix of Russian propaganda.
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Rossticus said:

Zelenskyy is about to shoot himself in the pecker again. He is weak in some areas that will prove to continually hamstring Ukraine's progress, I'm afraid.



Yep, Zelensky definitely has his leadership flaws.

After all, he was a TV personality, not a career politician or manager, before being elected and primarily campaigned on a peacetime anti-corruption platform. So, even without dealing with the mindboggling additional stress and complexity of the Russian invasion, he was very likely to be operating out of his depth as he had no experience leading an enterprise of any size, much less an entire country.

Knowing this, it would be remarkable if someone so unprepared to handle the dire straits Ukraine suddenly found itself in didn't make mistakes along the way. But, on the other hand, he had the courage to stand and fight when it seemed Kiev was sure to fall and has since blunted the invasion, kept the country united, rallied the western world to his side and is now taking the fight to Russia, all of which makes for a record that overwhelms his flaws and mistakes.

Ukraine could do a lot worse, imo.
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Wait for the riots in cities to start with no power, no fuel and food/water shortages.

Then winter hits.
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We can assume that regular Russians will soon lose air travel, while high above the toiling masses, the Russian elite snack on lobster and American chocolate bars aboard $150M private jets.



Ukrainian strikes on refineries and energy nodes have compounded into systemic collapse: less fuel means tighter limits, slower recovery, more sabotage windows inside the airports themselves. Every grounded flight is another logistics artery bleeding out.

Kremlin mouthpieces still pretend this is manageable. It is not. The same empire that cannot keep its civilian fleet fueled cannot sustain a forever war that grinds through 35,000 of its own meat per month. Mobilization waves change nothing except the body count on their tab. Putin cannot freeze the conflict because the moment the meat returns home the question becomes "what the hell was that for?" Only battlefield defeat ends it.
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74OA said:

Rossticus said:

Zelenskyy is about to shoot himself in the pecker again. He is weak in some areas that will prove to continually hamstring Ukraine's progress, I'm afraid.



Yep, Zelensky definitely has his leadership flaws.

After all, he was a TV personality, not a career politician or manager, before being elected and primarily campaigned on a peacetime anti-corruption platform. So, even without dealing with the mindboggling additional stress and complexity of the Russian invasion, he was very likely to be operating out of his depth as he had no experience leading an enterprise of any size, much less an entire country.

Knowing this, it would be remarkable if someone so unprepared to handle the dire straits Ukraine suddenly found itself in didn't make mistakes along the way. But, on the other hand, he had the courage to stand and fight when it seemed Kiev was sure to fall and has since blunted the invasion, kept the country united, rallied the western world to his side and is now taking the fight to Russia, all of which makes for a record that overwhelms his flaws and mistakes.

Ukraine could do a lot worse, imo.


Zelenskyy should be in top tier of leaders of the last 100 years. Just below Churchill. Yes he is Basically Ukraine's Jon Stewart but looks like he is going to beat back Putin's invading horde
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Sq 17 said:

74OA said:

Rossticus said:

Zelenskyy is about to shoot himself in the pecker again. He is weak in some areas that will prove to continually hamstring Ukraine's progress, I'm afraid.



Yep, Zelensky definitely has his leadership flaws.

After all, he was a TV personality, not a career politician or manager, before being elected and primarily campaigned on a peacetime anti-corruption platform. So, even without dealing with the mindboggling additional stress and complexity of the Russian invasion, he was very likely to be operating out of his depth as he had no experience leading an enterprise of any size, much less an entire country.

Knowing this, it would be remarkable if someone so unprepared to handle the dire straits Ukraine suddenly found itself in didn't make mistakes along the way. But, on the other hand, he had the courage to stand and fight when it seemed Kiev was sure to fall and has since blunted the invasion, kept the country united, rallied the western world to his side and is now taking the fight to Russia, all of which makes for a record that overwhelms his flaws and mistakes.

Ukraine could do a lot worse, imo.


Zelenskyy should be in top tier of leaders of all time. Just below Churchill. Yes he is Basically Ukraine's Jon Stewart but looks like he is going to beat back Putin's invading horde

Honestly an amazing feat.
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Results matter, Tip of the Hat to Z
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Sq 17 said:

74OA said:

Rossticus said:

Zelenskyy is about to shoot himself in the pecker again. He is weak in some areas that will prove to continually hamstring Ukraine's progress, I'm afraid.



Yep, Zelensky definitely has his leadership flaws.

After all, he was a TV personality, not a career politician or manager, before being elected and primarily campaigned on a peacetime anti-corruption platform. So, even without dealing with the mindboggling additional stress and complexity of the Russian invasion, he was very likely to be operating out of his depth as he had no experience leading an enterprise of any size, much less an entire country.

Knowing this, it would be remarkable if someone so unprepared to handle the dire straits Ukraine suddenly found itself in didn't make mistakes along the way. But, on the other hand, he had the courage to stand and fight when it seemed Kiev was sure to fall and has since blunted the invasion, kept the country united, rallied the western world to his side and is now taking the fight to Russia, all of which makes for a record that overwhelms his flaws and mistakes.

Ukraine could do a lot worse, imo.


Zelenskyy should be in top tier of leaders of all time. Just below Churchill. Yes he is Basically Ukraine's Jon Stewart but looks like he is going to beat back Putin's invading horde

On a human level, I'm just impressed Zelensky hasn't stroked out under the crushing nonstop stress, although you can clearly see how the pressure has rapidly aged him over the last four+ years. He's not perfect by any stretch but, again, Ukraine could do far worse.
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Incompetent and poorly trained crews
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2wealfth Man said:

Incompetent and poorly trained crews

He already said it was Russians...
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Europe continues to step up.

"France will license Ukraine to produce SCALP missiles, AASM bombs, and Aster-30 interceptors, and confirmed delivery of 16 Rafale jets starting 2028.

Ukraine and nine European nations formed an Integrated Anti-Ballistic Missile Coalition in Paris on July 13, 2026, tied to a new system called Freyja."

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FREYJA

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Waffledynamics said:




REVENGE
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Interesting article analyzing how Russia misapplied its vast manpower advantage over Ukraine.

"At this stage of the war, it is not clear if more forces would fix anything for Russia, unless its military changes the method of employment.

Absent this additional mass, Moscow's choices for breaking the battlefield stalemate are now limited. Furthermore, the cracks in Russia's current force generation model started to show in late 2025.

Russian regions must keep increasing bonuses to meet recruitment targets, which is becoming fiscally untenable. If casualty rates continue to increase, the Russian force in Ukraine will probably begin to contract, meaning that Moscow has moved past its high-water mark for offensive capacity.

How much of this force the Russian military will be able to retain also remains uncertain and subject to budgetary constraints. What is clear is that the Russian military seems to have made a profound miscalculation, assuming that force quantity would eventually offset Western support and Kyiv's innovations and wear down Ukraine.

In reality, how it employed force over time led to declining combat efficiency and effectiveness, closing a window of opportunity that was open in 2024 and 2025."

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WWII tactics, but against modern weapons and effective logistics.
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USA*** said:

WWII tactics, but against modern weapons and effective logistics.

Agree, but even more resembling WWI tactics.
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74OA said:

USA*** said:

WWII tactics, but against modern weapons and effective logistics.

Agree, but even more resembling WWI tactics.


Especially given the relative ineffectiveness of the traditional armored spearhead and reversion to trenches, fixed fortifications and infantry " over the top" into the kill zone.
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