***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Convenient because when they fail to stop the attack, they can fall off the building. Saves on window repairs.
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Feel the pain worms!





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Russia can't have an unlimited supply of tankers either. At some point transport capacity alone becomes a bottleneck
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Ukraine receives its fifth donated (and modernized) mine hunting vessel.

"Ukraine's transferred minehunters remain based in the United Kingdom. Their movement into the Black Sea is restricted while Trkiye applies the wartime provisions of the Montreux Convention, which limit the passage of warships belonging to belligerent states through the Turkish Straits. As a result, the transfer does not provide Ukraine with an immediate additional mine hunting platform inside the Black Sea. It does, however, allow the Ukrainian Navy to train crews, establish maintenance arrangements and develop procedures with NATO navies before the vessels can eventually deploy to Ukrainian waters."

Apparently, the Danube Canal isn't deep enough for these ships to bypass Turkish waters?

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Ukraine still has ships to evacuate them?
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So Russia is attacking neutral ships approaching Ukrainian ports? That is an escalation. Are they in Ukrainian territorial waters?
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Yeah it's an escalation for sure.

We have commenced the starving Ukraine out portion of the war I guess.
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MouthBQ98 said:

So Russia is attacking neutral ships approaching Ukrainian ports? That is an escalation. Are they in Ukrainian territorial waters?

Going to be interesting to see how Turkey reacts to having one of their flagged ships targeted. Their staying relatively neutral has been a net benefit to Russia for years. If they throw their weight behind Ukraine, they could cause big problems for the orcs.
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This is so awesome. Worked great the last time, eh boys?!?!
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Smart. Not only helps to further cement friendships but also informs the weapons designs that allies ultimately provide to Ukraine.

"Ukraine's Ministry of Defense launched an access-controlled online platform last week that provides allied governments, defense companies and research institutions with technical intelligence drawn from captured Russian military hardware, a formalization of what Kyiv has long done informally with select partners."

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For example: EW
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Quote:

"That money isn't being invested in production or anything else - not even in victory. This problem can be solved quickly. If I were the president, I'd do it with a single decree. In wartime, he has the right to do so - he is the supreme commander-in-chief," he added.

The main problem russia is facing could be solved even more quickly if putin happened to wander too close to a window.
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PJYoung said:





Here's more on why this strike is so important for Ukraine.

"What distinguishes this strand of Ukraine's campaign from conventional deep strikes on airbases or fuel depots is the precision of the targeting intelligence behind it. Knowing that a specific plant in Voronezh supplies transistor assemblies with specific part numbers to a specific circuit board in a specific missile guidance computer requires a level of technical intelligence about Russian defense production that was not publicly known to exist at the beginning of the war."

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Related. This won't create another surge of Russian migration and financial flight, at all. Doubling down on failure.

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Is Ukraine winning this war at this time?
Will Russia be desperate and use bio weapons or nuclear?
Is Putin likely to be taken out by people around him?
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Neither side is winning the war at this time, except in the sense that Ukraine "wins" by simplify surviving as a free country.

Why would Putin, who wants to make Ukraine a Russian vassal state again, destroy and/or contaminate the very people, industries and natural resources he wants to own so badly? Besides, the prevailing winds often blow into Russia and Belorussia, making contamination very difficult to confine to Ukraine. Finally, Russia would definitely lose China's support, its absolutely essential ally, if it used WMD first.

Things will have to get a lot worse as all the heavy hitters in Russia owe their power, privilege and wealth to Putin's backing.
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cs69ag said:

Is Ukraine winning this war at this time?
Will Russia be desperate and use bio weapons or nuclear?
Is Putin likely to be taken out by people around him?
As long as Russia holds more Ukrainian land than Ukrainians hold of Russian land. The Russians are winning.

But the momentum is on the side of the Ukrainians at the moment. It's hard to say if that will last. Ukraine has a manpower disadvantage, has no significant weapons advantages, has a significant command and control advantage (Starlink). The recent momentum shifts have been based almost exclusively on tactics. Ie targeting Russian logistics. That may not last forever.
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74OA said:

Neither side is winning the war at this time, except in the sense that Ukraine "wins" by simplify surviving as a free country.

Why would Putin, who wants to make Ukraine a Russian vassal state again, destroy and/or contaminate the very people and natural resources he wants to own so badly? Besides, the prevailing winds often blow into Russia and Belorussia, making contamination very difficult to confine to Ukraine. Finally, Russia would definitely lose China's support, its absolutely essential ally, if it used WMD first.

Things will have to get a lot worse as all the heavy hitters in Russia owe their power, privilege and wealth to Putin's backing.

A quibble. Ukraine is winning in the Russian public's PR aspect. Before, people in Moscow and St. Petersburg had very little impression of actually being at war. Now that the Ukes can reach out and bring the war to them, that is an attention grabber.
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As long as Russia holds more Ukrainian land than Ukrainians hold of Russian land. The Russians are winning.


If this war ended today, there is simply no way anyone could consider this a "win" for Russia, despite holding more of Ukraine than vice versa. Russia didn't sacrifice thousands upon thousand, hoards of national treasure, and sacrificing their future generations for what they have today. Not even close. The general consensus in February of 2022 was that Ukraine would cease to exist in months if not weeks. If anyone could see 4 years in to the future and see the current state of things they'd consider it a massive win for Ukraine.


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has no significant weapons advantages


Also worth debating as well. Ukrainian drone tech right now is not only better than Russia, it may be better than most countries on earth.
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Teslag said:


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As long as Russia holds more Ukrainian land than Ukrainians hold of Russian land. The Russians are winning.


If this war ended today, there is simply no way anyone could consider this a "win" for Russia, despite holding more of Ukraine than vice versa. Russia didn't sacrifice thousands upon thousand, hoards of national treasure, and sacrificing their future generations for what they have today. Not even close. The general consensus in February of 2022 was that Ukraine would cease to exist in months if not weeks. If anyone could see 4 years in to the future and see the current state of things they'd consider it a massive win for Ukraine.


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has no significant weapons advantages


Also worth debating as well. Ukrainian drone tech right now is not only better than Russia, it may be better than most countries on earth.
Russia has an advantage in fiber optic drones. Ukraine has an advantage in ground drones and anti-drone drones. They're basically at parity on that front. Add effective AI and not just machine learning and that could change. In all other weapon systems Ukraine is at parity or behind.
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aggiehawg said:

74OA said:

Neither side is winning the war at this time, except in the sense that Ukraine "wins" by simplify surviving as a free country.

Why would Putin, who wants to make Ukraine a Russian vassal state again, destroy and/or contaminate the very people and natural resources he wants to own so badly? Besides, the prevailing winds often blow into Russia and Belorussia, making contamination very difficult to confine to Ukraine. Finally, Russia would definitely lose China's support, its absolutely essential ally, if it used WMD first.

Things will have to get a lot worse as all the heavy hitters in Russia owe their power, privilege and wealth to Putin's backing.

A quibble. Ukraine is winning in the Russian public's PR aspect. Before, people in Moscow and St. Petersburg had very little impression of actually being at war. Now that the Ukes can reach out and bring the war to them, that is an attention grabber.
Pyrrhic victories are still victories.
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If putin offered to end the war today as per current lines of control I am confident Zelensky and the whole of Ukraine would tell him to F himself.
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Apparently, Ukraine has cards to play with the US, after all.

"Patriot is the missile Ukraine wants to build. U.S. plants turn out only 60 to 65 Patriot interceptors a month, a rate Zelenskyy told CBS News is "nothing" for today's challenges. Licensing production to allies, he argued, is the only way to close the gap.

What Ukraine offers in return is the other half of the air-defense problem: Its interceptor drones, built to knock down the cheap Shaheds that swarm Ukrainian cities nightly, run $1,000 to $2,500 apiece, and a new system automates 95% of the intercept, Fedorov said this month."

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