***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Idiot.



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We don't think there is anyone within the Russian occupation government who doesn't understand OPSEC more than the illegitimate governor of occupied Kherson, Vladimir Saldo.

He does an interview at the Henichesk-Arabat Bridge, showing that the main bridge has one lane open to light vehicles, and the Russian military is using the adjacent pontoon bridge.

There appears to be an effort to build a second pontoon bridge at the site to support two-way traffic.

We're 100% sure @414magyarbirds will be paying another visit, and we thank Gaulieter Saldo for the BDA and operational update.

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Ag with kids said:

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ConstructionAg01 said:

Seeing how that lid blew off at the refinery makes me wonder if the same engineer was behind the T-series tank turret designs!

Well they are floating tank covers.

Actually they are not floating tank roofs but cone roofs. They are designed per API 650 standards in which the roof has what is called a critical joint, the weakness joint on the tank in order to behave just as it did when exploding.



You think the Russians are following API 650 standards???

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U.S. API standards (especially API 650 for welded steel tanks for oil storage and API 653 for inspection/repair) are the global benchmark for aboveground petroleum storage tanks. They cover design, materials, welding, erection, inspection, seismic/wind loads, etc., and are widely adopted or referenced internationally.

Not saying they didn't rename the standard as one of their on but the point is that joint was designed to fail first.
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5Amp said:

Ag with kids said:

5Amp said:

aggiehawg said:

ConstructionAg01 said:

Seeing how that lid blew off at the refinery makes me wonder if the same engineer was behind the T-series tank turret designs!

Well they are floating tank covers.

Actually they are not floating tank roofs but cone roofs. They are designed per API 650 standards in which the roof has what is called a critical joint, the weakness joint on the tank in order to behave just as it did when exploding.



You think the Russians are following API 650 standards???

Grok

U.S. API standards (especially API 650 for welded steel tanks for oil storage and API 653 for inspection/repair) are the global benchmark for aboveground petroleum storage tanks. They cover design, materials, welding, erection, inspection, seismic/wind loads, etc., and are widely adopted or referenced internationally.

Not saying they didn't rename the standard as one of their on but the point is that joint was designed to fail first.

I'm pointing out that the Russians are notorious for skirting the rules and best practices when it comes to pretty much everything...
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Ag with kids said:

5Amp said:

Ag with kids said:

5Amp said:

aggiehawg said:

ConstructionAg01 said:

Seeing how that lid blew off at the refinery makes me wonder if the same engineer was behind the T-series tank turret designs!

Well they are floating tank covers.

Actually they are not floating tank roofs but cone roofs. They are designed per API 650 standards in which the roof has what is called a critical joint, the weakness joint on the tank in order to behave just as it did when exploding.



You think the Russians are following API 650 standards???

Grok

U.S. API standards (especially API 650 for welded steel tanks for oil storage and API 653 for inspection/repair) are the global benchmark for aboveground petroleum storage tanks. They cover design, materials, welding, erection, inspection, seismic/wind loads, etc., and are widely adopted or referenced internationally.

Not saying they didn't rename the standard as one of their on but the point is that joint was designed to fail first.

I'm pointing out that the Russians are notorious for skirting the rules and best practices when it comes to pretty much everything...

If you have something full of potentially explosive liquids or fumes in amongst a bunch of other similar tanks and equipment, you want it to fail exactly like it did if it explodes. You want the energy to go straight up instead of laterally where it can damage other nearby tanks or other equipment. Same reason munitions manufacturing facilities have really strong walls on three sides of every loading cell and one side with a wall facing the outside with a flimsy wall made of something like tin or wood.
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txags92 said:

Ag with kids said:

5Amp said:

Ag with kids said:

5Amp said:

aggiehawg said:

ConstructionAg01 said:

Seeing how that lid blew off at the refinery makes me wonder if the same engineer was behind the T-series tank turret designs!

Well they are floating tank covers.

Actually they are not floating tank roofs but cone roofs. They are designed per API 650 standards in which the roof has what is called a critical joint, the weakness joint on the tank in order to behave just as it did when exploding.



You think the Russians are following API 650 standards???

Grok

U.S. API standards (especially API 650 for welded steel tanks for oil storage and API 653 for inspection/repair) are the global benchmark for aboveground petroleum storage tanks. They cover design, materials, welding, erection, inspection, seismic/wind loads, etc., and are widely adopted or referenced internationally.

Not saying they didn't rename the standard as one of their on but the point is that joint was designed to fail first.

I'm pointing out that the Russians are notorious for skirting the rules and best practices when it comes to pretty much everything...

If you have something full of potentially explosive liquids or fumes in amongst a bunch of other similar tanks and equipment, you want it to fail exactly like it did if it explodes. You want the energy to go straight up instead of laterally where it can damage other nearby tanks or other equipment. Same reason munitions manufacturing facilities have really strong walls on three sides of every loading cell and one side with a wall facing the outside with a flimsy wall made of something like tin or wood.

I'm not disagreeing with the NEED for this design.

But, the Russians aren't that far removed from the USSR and THOSE IDIOTS came up with the design for Chernobyl...


BTW, I saw one munition manufacturer which made rocket motors or something like that. All the buildings were diagonal so that if anything lit up and went WHOOOSH, it wouldn't hit the next building over.
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Ag with kids said:

txags92 said:

Ag with kids said:

5Amp said:

Ag with kids said:

5Amp said:

aggiehawg said:

ConstructionAg01 said:

Seeing how that lid blew off at the refinery makes me wonder if the same engineer was behind the T-series tank turret designs!

Well they are floating tank covers.

Actually they are not floating tank roofs but cone roofs. They are designed per API 650 standards in which the roof has what is called a critical joint, the weakness joint on the tank in order to behave just as it did when exploding.



You think the Russians are following API 650 standards???

Grok

U.S. API standards (especially API 650 for welded steel tanks for oil storage and API 653 for inspection/repair) are the global benchmark for aboveground petroleum storage tanks. They cover design, materials, welding, erection, inspection, seismic/wind loads, etc., and are widely adopted or referenced internationally.

Not saying they didn't rename the standard as one of their on but the point is that joint was designed to fail first.

I'm pointing out that the Russians are notorious for skirting the rules and best practices when it comes to pretty much everything...

If you have something full of potentially explosive liquids or fumes in amongst a bunch of other similar tanks and equipment, you want it to fail exactly like it did if it explodes. You want the energy to go straight up instead of laterally where it can damage other nearby tanks or other equipment. Same reason munitions manufacturing facilities have really strong walls on three sides of every loading cell and one side with a wall facing the outside with a flimsy wall made of something like tin or wood.

I'm not disagreeing with the NEED for this design.

But, the Russians aren't that far removed from the USSR and THOSE IDIOTS came up with the design for Chernobyl...


BTW, I saw one munition manufacturer which made rocket motors or something like that. All the buildings were diagonal so that if anything lit up and went WHOOOSH, it wouldn't hit the next building over.

If you look at the load lines at the Army Ammunition Plants, they are all very spread out over thousands of acres, with the distances in between the individual lines based on the EQSD arcs for whatever munitions and quantities they are loading. That is what made that explosion at the Accurate Energetic Systems in Tennessee last year such a cluster. They were allowing explosives quantities that were way too large for the safety systems in the building to handle and they ended up killing everybody in the building instead of just a couple people in one cell when they had a detonation. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tennessee-munitions-factory-explosion-safety-violations/
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Ag with kids said:

txags92 said:

Ag with kids said:

5Amp said:

Ag with kids said:

5Amp said:

aggiehawg said:

ConstructionAg01 said:

Seeing how that lid blew off at the refinery makes me wonder if the same engineer was behind the T-series tank turret designs!

Well they are floating tank covers.

Actually they are not floating tank roofs but cone roofs. They are designed per API 650 standards in which the roof has what is called a critical joint, the weakness joint on the tank in order to behave just as it did when exploding.



You think the Russians are following API 650 standards???

Grok

U.S. API standards (especially API 650 for welded steel tanks for oil storage and API 653 for inspection/repair) are the global benchmark for aboveground petroleum storage tanks. They cover design, materials, welding, erection, inspection, seismic/wind loads, etc., and are widely adopted or referenced internationally.

Not saying they didn't rename the standard as one of their on but the point is that joint was designed to fail first.

I'm pointing out that the Russians are notorious for skirting the rules and best practices when it comes to pretty much everything...

If you have something full of potentially explosive liquids or fumes in amongst a bunch of other similar tanks and equipment, you want it to fail exactly like it did if it explodes. You want the energy to go straight up instead of laterally where it can damage other nearby tanks or other equipment. Same reason munitions manufacturing facilities have really strong walls on three sides of every loading cell and one side with a wall facing the outside with a flimsy wall made of something like tin or wood.

I'm not disagreeing with the NEED for this design.

But, the Russians aren't that far removed from the USSR and THOSE IDIOTS came up with the design for Chernobyl...


BTW, I saw one munition manufacturer which made rocket motors or something like that. All the buildings were diagonal so that if anything lit up and went WHOOOSH, it wouldn't hit the next building over.


The tank roof failed as designed, not sure what your argument is.
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I've been inside a lot of chemical plants and refineries, I've seen all kinds of tanks and tank roofs. It was cool to see That tank roof fly straight up like that… I suspect it may have been a floating roof tank? Unless you're up close it would be hard to tell the type of tank roof it had. I would guess a welded roof on a tank wouldn't fly off in that fashion? Not real sure
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This made me laugh

Igor Sechin, the chief executive of the state-owned oil giant Rosneft, acknowledged on Friday that Russia was facing problems with fuel supplies. But he said those issues were related in part to "unscheduled maintenance at refineries," in what appeared to be a euphemism for the scores of Ukrainian attacks on Russian oil infrastructure in recent months.
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PJYoung said:



Ha! Welcome to the war you little Moscow *****es!!!
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It is interesting to me how many of these soldiers are speaking arabic.
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PJYoung said:

This made me laugh

Igor Sechin, the chief executive of the state-owned oil giant Rosneft, acknowledged on Friday that Russia was facing problems with fuel supplies. But he said those issues were related in part to "unscheduled maintenance at refineries," in what appeared to be a euphemism for the scores of Ukrainian attacks on Russian oil infrastructure in recent months.

Unscheduled maintenance? I like that euphemism.
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aggiehawg said:

PJYoung said:

This made me laugh

Igor Sechin, the chief executive of the state-owned oil giant Rosneft, acknowledged on Friday that Russia was facing problems with fuel supplies. But he said those issues were related in part to "unscheduled maintenance at refineries," in what appeared to be a euphemism for the scores of Ukrainian attacks on Russian oil infrastructure in recent months.

Unscheduled maintenance? I like that euphemism.

Special maintenance operation!
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It's not a fire or explosion - it's a rapid oxidation event....
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What a stick in the eye! LOL

“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
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“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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Russia is resorting to desperate measures to "recruit" military manpower. It's a telling strategic change.

"Russia has avoided a formal declared mobilization since the partial mobilization announced by President Vladimir Putin in September 2022, which called up approximately 300,000 reservists and triggered a visible mass exodus of military-age men from the country. Since then, Russian authorities have relied on financial incentives to recruit contract soldiers, coercive pressure on prisoners offered early release in exchange for front-line service, and what analysts have consistently described as a shadow mobilization targeting men with limited legal resources to resist pressure from local officials. The Penza roundups represent a more overt version of that pressure, one that stops short of formal mobilization orders but achieves similar results through direct police action on public streets."

PRESS GANGS
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Russia is getting serious now. They're taking out the postal service.

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now claiming Russia would have won in 4 hours if not for one unlucky wrong turn taken by single Russian General.
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PJYoung said:



Lots of things one could choose to be critical of Trump about regarding his interactions with Ukraine and Russia, but that statement isn't one of them. The Russians made a few really dumb decisions in the opening days of the war, otherwise they would have been in Kyiv before the world could have reacted. Leaving huge columns of troops and equipment stuck along the side of the road on the approaches to Kyiv either due to stuck vehicles, lack of fuel, or waiting to link up with air mobile troops who never made it into Hostomel was a fatal mistake for the Russian war effort and allowed critical time for the Ukrainians to counterattack and cripple the convoys.
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The Ukrainian strikes on Moscow tell us several things:

  • The Ukrainians have largely caught up on their lag in long-range drones
  • Russian air defense is failing, we're talking about 120 modern and well-supplied air defense systems all around the city in 4 layers, whose action is often ineffective or dangerous.
  • Russian aviation is largely absent, Russian fighter jets are numerous enough to monitor the airspace, including Moscow but also other cities, and yet they are invisible.
  • Moscow's refinery was one of the most defended in the country, and since the beginning of the year, a refinery or oil depot has been hit every 3 days on average.
  • Russia has more to lose than to gain in the war. The strikes on Ukraine cannot really destroy the Ukrainian economy any more than it already is, which is largely in difficulty and supported by the EU, but the strikes on Russia have almost infinite potential.
  • On February 24, 2022, no one would have imagined that on June 18, 2026, Moscow would be ablaze after a 3rd consecutive night of Ukrainian strikes with drones manufactured in Ukraine.
In France, several figures oppose or even denounce these strikes. Let us recall that Ukrainians are struck every night across their entire territory, so they have every right to retaliate. Let us also recall that these strikes in no way constitute an escalation, since all the so-called escalations have never led to anything. Finally, let us recall that Moscow is and remains the sole responsible party for the continuation of the war, that all negotiations have failed because of Russia, and therefore these strikes are a logical backlash for the aggressor state.

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Ten straight days of Ukrainian strikes against Moscow likely ushers in a new phase of the war. Apparently, Ukraine now has domestically produced long-range weapons in operationally meaningful quantities, and it doesn't need any third-party approvals to use them anywhere in Russia.

"Among them appear to be examples of the Bars, part of a growing family of so-called "drone-missiles," which combine the features of cruise missiles and uncrewed aerial vehicles (UAVs). Previously, these had been considered as medium-range strike systems, with a maximum range of around 500 miles. Their presence over Moscow would indicate that their range is greater, perhaps evidence that they have been further adapted or reworked."

MOSCOW
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There are only two primary land MSRs into Crimea.

One transits a sea estuary in the east and the other crosses a large canal in the west.

Both are dependent on vulnerable bridges which Ukraine now has the long-range weaponry to attack.
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Installing air defense on apartment buildings. What could go wrong?

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