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BTHOtrolls said:

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Thanks for posting, this is information that makes TexAgs such a great community. Hope your friend stays safe and maintains internet to provide further updates.

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Thanks. Last I heard from a Lithuanian energy exec I know was that he and his son (a doctor) had been called up. Not expecting to hear from him anytime soon.

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Called up to aid in the war effort? God, that must be such a horrible, sinking feeling. It doesn't sound like the Russians want anything to do with this, especially not them. It honestly makes me feel bad for the common soldiers.

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Jsimonds58 said:

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Wow, the European Union has just announced after the earlier announcement that NATO Provided Combat Aircraft will be Fighting in Ukrainian Airspace within the next hour, this could completely change the War.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) February 27, 2022

Holy ****

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Flying in #Ukraine skies within the hour. https://t.co/8NKJiP8upG

— Alexandre Krauss (@AlexandreKrausz) February 27, 2022

Guy is a senior advisor EU parliament.

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Then he is a dumbass announcing this. Good lord !!!

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What if it is cover? Claim "NATO is giving them new jets that will be in the air shortly", then fly in a few pairs of F35s to dismantle the Russian armored columns traveling toward Kiev. Gives plausible deniability...as has been said, Putin is going to take it the same either way, so why go to the trouble of sending old crap planes.

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Several problems. THe mig-29's are not at all stealthy. The F-35 is pretty darn but not perfectly stealthy. And advance radar could tell the difference. Besides the the F-35 is a front line NATO fighter first. Yes it can do ground attacks but how well? Four are not going to do it well enough to "dismantle" a Russian armored thrust.

The take away: Very high escalation risk for a minimal to moderate military return.

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Introducing new battlefield tech (F-35s) is definitely more of an escalation that providing Ukraine more of something they already have (MiG-29s). It's a very fine line to walk. We want to defeat Russia without provoking them to escalate or retaliate in some new way.

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Rent to own?

Extremely Large Explosions heard near Ukraines Capitol city of Kyiv, this night has been relatively calm all things considered so this probably means that Russian Bombardments and Offensives could be beginning again soon.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) February 28, 2022

JB!98 said:

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Ulysses90 said:

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JB!98 said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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flakrat said:

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JobSecurity said:

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This has been rumored all day but this is the biggest outlet to pick it up

Multiple sources say the decision has been made — and as soon as on Feb. 28 at 5 a.m. local time, the first Ilyushin Il-76 transport aircraft is very likely to take off carrying Belarusian paratroopers to be deployed against Ukraine. https://t.co/o8WcszVJNR

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) February 28, 2022

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Would be nice to see those new EU migs setup on the Belarus border and smoke those paratroopers out of the sky within a few minutes of entering UK airspace.

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Or spread a bunch of stingers along the border!

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Don't have the range. Stinger is a short range missile. They could potentially get them on ascent or descent, but not cruising altitude.

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I think its important that everyone understands that the stinger is only good to about 10,000 ft and its slant range depends on the altitude of the target. Good against helo's and low flying aircraft. No impact to aircraft at an operating altitude. Now you can probably smack a IL-76 during their drop run, but with a 2lb warhead I think you might need more than one hit to bring one down.

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From what altitude do paratroopers debark a aircraft using static lines? If the Ukrainians have some idea of the likely drop zones then they might very well be able to seed the area and likely approaches with stingers.

Perhaps a friendly AWACS flying over the Black Sea could send some info over Link 16 to a MiG 29 that would be able to easily intercept an IL-76.

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I have no idea the altitude of a normal drop. Someone on here knows for sure.

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Static line paratroopers can be pretty low. Like 500 to 1000ft possibly as low as 250 ft depending on terrain. The goal is to drop quick as safe as possible and a whole lot of paratroopers. It's not like a HALO or a HAHO. I doubt the Russian have our standard of O2 above 10k ft but it would be silly to do a mass troop drop from too high up. I've not flown low level since 2004 though.

Not showing on the livestream?

Ulysses90 said:

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JB!98 said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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JobSecurity said:

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This has been rumored all day but this is the biggest outlet to pick it up

Multiple sources say the decision has been made — and as soon as on Feb. 28 at 5 a.m. local time, the first Ilyushin Il-76 transport aircraft is very likely to take off carrying Belarusian paratroopers to be deployed against Ukraine. https://t.co/o8WcszVJNR

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) February 28, 2022

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Would be nice to see those new EU migs setup on the Belarus border and smoke those paratroopers out of the sky within a few minutes of entering UK airspace.

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Or spread a bunch of stingers along the border!

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Don't have the range. Stinger is a short range missile. They could potentially get them on ascent or descent, but not cruising altitude.

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I think its important that everyone understands that the stinger is only good to about 10,000 ft and its slant range depends on the altitude of the target. Good against helo's and low flying aircraft. No impact to aircraft at an operating altitude. Now you can probably smack a IL-76 during their drop run, but with a 2lb warhead I think you might need more than one hit to bring one down.

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From what altitude do paratroopers debark a aircraft using static lines?

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500-800 ft.

I hope we are passing any IL-76 tracks to the Ukes so they can turn on their radars at the right moment to put a hurt on Putin's puppet paratroopers.

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Not showing on the livestream?

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Just pulled one up but I don't see anything.

TRM said:

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Build It said:

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Not showing on the livestream?

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Just pulled one up but I don't see anything.

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Could be a looping stream or could be the tweet is fake.

Build It said:

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Not showing on the livestream?

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Can someone please report the live feed stream

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Jayhawk said:

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I hope we are passing any IL-76 tracks to the Ukes so they can turn on their radars at the right moment to put a hurt on Putin's puppet paratroopers.

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That is probably happening and has since the beginning.

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Probably how they've hit them. Turn on the S300 after AWACS says they're in the area. Hit them. Move.

Rubio has been spot on in earlier days honestly.

Can I get a clarification on the possible amphibious landing? I've seen 10 DIVISIONS?

That can't be, right?

Is Russia even flying planes anymore in Ukraine? I haven't seen any video in a day. Did the stingers ground them???

JB!98 said:

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Ulysses90 said:

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JB!98 said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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flakrat said:

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txags92 said:

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JobSecurity said:

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This has been rumored all day but this is the biggest outlet to pick it up

Multiple sources say the decision has been made — and as soon as on Feb. 28 at 5 a.m. local time, the first Ilyushin Il-76 transport aircraft is very likely to take off carrying Belarusian paratroopers to be deployed against Ukraine. https://t.co/o8WcszVJNR

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) February 28, 2022

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Would be nice to see those new EU migs setup on the Belarus border and smoke those paratroopers out of the sky within a few minutes of entering UK airspace.

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Or spread a bunch of stingers along the border!

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Don't have the range. Stinger is a short range missile. They could potentially get them on ascent or descent, but not cruising altitude.

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I think its important that everyone understands that the stinger is only good to about 10,000 ft and its slant range depends on the altitude of the target. Good against helo's and low flying aircraft. No impact to aircraft at an operating altitude. Now you can probably smack a IL-76 during their drop run, but with a 2lb warhead I think you might need more than one hit to bring one down.

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From what altitude do paratroopers debark a aircraft using static lines? If the Ukrainians have some idea of the likely drop zones then they might very well be able to seed the area and likely approaches with stingers.

Perhaps a friendly AWACS flying over the Black Sea could send some info over Link 16 to a MiG 29 that would be able to easily intercept an IL-76.

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I have no idea the altitude of a normal drop. Someone on here knows for sure.

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Roughly 1200ft

JB!98 said:

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Ulysses90 said:

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JB!98 said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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flakrat said:

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txags92 said:

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JobSecurity said:

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This has been rumored all day but this is the biggest outlet to pick it up

Multiple sources say the decision has been made — and as soon as on Feb. 28 at 5 a.m. local time, the first Ilyushin Il-76 transport aircraft is very likely to take off carrying Belarusian paratroopers to be deployed against Ukraine. https://t.co/o8WcszVJNR

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) February 28, 2022

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Would be nice to see those new EU migs setup on the Belarus border and smoke those paratroopers out of the sky within a few minutes of entering UK airspace.

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Or spread a bunch of stingers along the border!

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Don't have the range. Stinger is a short range missile. They could potentially get them on ascent or descent, but not cruising altitude.

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I think its important that everyone understands that the stinger is only good to about 10,000 ft and its slant range depends on the altitude of the target. Good against helo's and low flying aircraft. No impact to aircraft at an operating altitude. Now you can probably smack a IL-76 during their drop run, but with a 2lb warhead I think you might need more than one hit to bring one down.

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From what altitude do paratroopers debark a aircraft using static lines? If the Ukrainians have some idea of the likely drop zones then they might very well be able to seed the area and likely approaches with stingers.

Perhaps a friendly AWACS flying over the Black Sea could send some info over Link 16 to a MiG 29 that would be able to easily intercept an IL-76.

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I have no idea the altitude of a normal drop. Someone on here knows for sure.

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we would likely do it at 5-800' AGL. The chutes 20 years ago were MC1-1B with a decent rate of about 20FT/second. To do this over a city without controlling aspects of it would be brutal on both sides. I don't what the russians do but if i were them I would hit the city on all 2-3 sides with armor at the same time as the drop. The Ukes for sure have something handheld that would send a big fat low flying transport to the ground in a ball of flames, which is why I think the armor has to be on station or arriving at the same time.

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Is Russia even flying planes anymore in Ukraine? I haven't seen any video in a day. Did the stingers ground them???

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There were videos from a few hours ago posted of fighter jets flying today Kiev, I assumed they were Russian.

Basically means Russia is calling up reserves

Biden to host meeting on Ukraine on Monday with leaders of NATO, the European Union, the UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Japan, and Romania

— BNO News (@BNONews) February 28, 2022

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The second they step foot into Ukraine, they are fair game. By making them pay quickly, NATO/EU/Whoever would teach everybody else watching to NOT get involved.

Do they have the balls? Or are they afraid of "escalating" the war with BELARUS of all people?

FriscoKid said:

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Is Russia even flying planes anymore in Ukraine? I haven't seen any video in a day. Did the stingers ground them???

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Fighter jets taking off from #Belarus couple of minutes ago pic.twitter.com/6dhihGUFC9

— marqs (@MarQs__) February 28, 2022

wildmen09 said:

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JB!98 said:

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Ulysses90 said:

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JB!98 said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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flakrat said:

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txags92 said:

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JobSecurity said:

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This has been rumored all day but this is the biggest outlet to pick it up

Multiple sources say the decision has been made — and as soon as on Feb. 28 at 5 a.m. local time, the first Ilyushin Il-76 transport aircraft is very likely to take off carrying Belarusian paratroopers to be deployed against Ukraine. https://t.co/o8WcszVJNR

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) February 28, 2022

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Would be nice to see those new EU migs setup on the Belarus border and smoke those paratroopers out of the sky within a few minutes of entering UK airspace.

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Or spread a bunch of stingers along the border!

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Don't have the range. Stinger is a short range missile. They could potentially get them on ascent or descent, but not cruising altitude.

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I think its important that everyone understands that the stinger is only good to about 10,000 ft and its slant range depends on the altitude of the target. Good against helo's and low flying aircraft. No impact to aircraft at an operating altitude. Now you can probably smack a IL-76 during their drop run, but with a 2lb warhead I think you might need more than one hit to bring one down.

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From what altitude do paratroopers debark a aircraft using static lines? If the Ukrainians have some idea of the likely drop zones then they might very well be able to seed the area and likely approaches with stingers.

Perhaps a friendly AWACS flying over the Black Sea could send some info over Link 16 to a MiG 29 that would be able to easily intercept an IL-76.

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I have no idea the altitude of a normal drop. Someone on here knows for sure.

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Roughly 1200ft

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That's school jump altitude. Combat is lower.

(Reuters) - Bank of China's Singapore operation has stopped financing deals involving Russian oil and Russian companies, amid concerns of western sanctions following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, said a source on Monday with knowledge of the matter.

— Phil Stewart (@phildstewart) February 28, 2022

wildmen09 said:

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JB!98 said:

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Ulysses90 said:

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JB!98 said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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flakrat said:

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txags92 said:

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JobSecurity said:

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This has been rumored all day but this is the biggest outlet to pick it up

Multiple sources say the decision has been made — and as soon as on Feb. 28 at 5 a.m. local time, the first Ilyushin Il-76 transport aircraft is very likely to take off carrying Belarusian paratroopers to be deployed against Ukraine. https://t.co/o8WcszVJNR

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) February 28, 2022

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Would be nice to see those new EU migs setup on the Belarus border and smoke those paratroopers out of the sky within a few minutes of entering UK airspace.

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Or spread a bunch of stingers along the border!

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Don't have the range. Stinger is a short range missile. They could potentially get them on ascent or descent, but not cruising altitude.

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I think its important that everyone understands that the stinger is only good to about 10,000 ft and its slant range depends on the altitude of the target. Good against helo's and low flying aircraft. No impact to aircraft at an operating altitude. Now you can probably smack a IL-76 during their drop run, but with a 2lb warhead I think you might need more than one hit to bring one down.

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From what altitude do paratroopers debark a aircraft using static lines? If the Ukrainians have some idea of the likely drop zones then they might very well be able to seed the area and likely approaches with stingers.

Perhaps a friendly AWACS flying over the Black Sea could send some info over Link 16 to a MiG 29 that would be able to easily intercept an IL-76.

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I have no idea the altitude of a normal drop. Someone on here knows for sure.

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Roughly 1200ft

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Thats for training. In the ****, we would drop between 500 and 800 ft.

Has anyone seen anything in the last 6 hours or so regarding the talks between Russia and Ukraine that were supposed to happen near the Belarus border? I would assume these announcements about Belarus joining Russian forces means that either didn't happen or wasn't successful.

Putin could be using the threat to take Kiev as a distraction. Thus leaving the coastline and other major points of interest more open for Russian forces to occupy.

Then he will say "ok, lets make peace"