***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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The only way this truly stops is if someone from within Putin's inner circle ends this by ending Putin. That's a catch 22 because then who the hell knows assumes power. Turning Russia into Hermit Kingdom 2.0 might push someone to do the necessary deed, but what happens to power then
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TRM said:

Russian supply chain?



What is significance of the Z?
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AggieP18 said:

If some of these major cities are in fact encircled, it feels like Putin went to the negotiating table to threaten a siege/destroying these cities.



Right. He'll probably threaten use and show images of those thermobarics nearby. Offer not to lay the city to waste if a surrender is made.
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What is significance of the Z?
I'm Russian, don't shoot
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Really worried for Ukrainians in these cities. No reinforcements possible? This could be really bad.
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TRM said:

Russian supply chain?



Perhaps the fears of Russia invading Western Europe are a bit overblown
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SidetrackAg said:

TRM said:

Russian supply chain?



What is significance of the Z?
It differentiates their attacking force - Z, O, and V. One was for Belarussian forces, eastern Russian, and northern Russian forces.
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SidetrackAg said:

TRM said:

Russian supply chain?



What is significance of the Z?


If this is real it shows how bad of shape Russia is in with equipment and everthing else… a western military would crush these guys.. I bet that is Belorussians support for their part In this .. bunch of old farm and food trucks
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Wonder what senior Russian military think of putin. He was KGB not army so have to be some that want him out.
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RangerRick9211 said:



This was helpful to understand Russia's motivations. Obviously they want NATO off the table, but probably some form of petro-state demands (drop tarrifs on pass through transmission/guarantees on no development of reserves). They might also want to carve off the remaining ports in the south with Crimea (and the Donbas region).

Excellent video and helps explain not just how we got here but why Putin likely views this as an existential battle for Russia. Concerning to think about the stakes as he may view them, to be honest. Zero chance he allows Crimea to slip away unless made to.
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What live cams are up look to be relatively calm right now. Definitely don't hear the gun fire I did last night. Makes me wonder about this whole "they've got Kyiv surrounded" news.
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Have to hope Kyiv can survive another night. Things looking grim right now
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This seems like a strategic blunder to have the force this tightly grouped? Or is that just me?

Target the front unit and the fuel and lay waste while they're pinned
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True that large scale thermobaric weapons launched against and amphibious force would be devastating!

This take a lot of Naval assets to pull that sort of thing off, not exactly something that China is supper adept at. The world would respond to China like they have to Russia, even worse. I don't think the US would stand down on that one being as they are part of the NATO equivalent for the Pacific region.
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WSJ article on how sanctions have been crafted to allow Russia to keep selling oil and gas. All the headlines last week of "Biden Sanctions Two Largest Russian Banks" somehow didn't mention that the third largest Russian bank, Gazprom Bank, is the one that handles most energy purchases and was not sanctioned. Western leaders want to look to the public like they're doing everything for Ukraine, but not upset the public with soaring energy prices.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-sanctions-over-ukraine-largely-spare-energy-sector-vital-to-europe-11645970890?mod=mhp
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Shady AF
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Ukes need to be blasting this inside Kyiv.


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AggieLit said:

WSJ article on how sanctions have been crafted to allow Russia to keep selling oil and gas. All the headlines last week of "Biden Sanctions Two Largest Russian Banks" somehow didn't mention that the third largest Russian bank, Gazprom Bank, is the one that handles most energy purchases and was not sanctioned. Western leaders want to look to the public like they're doing everything for Ukraine, but not upset the public with soaring energy prices.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-sanctions-over-ukraine-largely-spare-energy-sector-vital-to-europe-11645970890?mod=mhp


It's nuance, right?

US won't be the leader in sanctions. The EU (notably Germany) is going to feel this worse than us. We'll back them up, but won't push the line.

We can't kill the Russia economy. You can't force them to that brink. We know how that will escalate. Sanctions need to be a slow asphyxiation that encourages diplomacy.
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JobSecurity said:


That tweet hadn't gone out until now?
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I think Klitschkos statement about Kyiv being surrounded was misinterpreted. Yes it's probably not possible to mass evac civilians at this point but from a tactical perspective I don't think the city is surrounded


Klitschko denies reports that Kyiv is completely surrounded. The mayor to
@bild: "Kiev is not completely surrounded! The Ukrainian army is fighting hard in the outskirts and the Russian army has many casualties."
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Why do you think the ruskies haven't launched a naval bombardment? A blockade? Lots of ships still moving in the Black Sea so I suppose they fear the oil tankers would be sunk or not allowed through the straits?

They could destroy places like Odessa from the sea.
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fullback44 said:

SidetrackAg said:

TRM said:

Russian supply chain?



What is significance of the Z?


If this is real it shows how bad of shape Russia is in with equipment and ever else… a western military would crush these guys.. I bet that is Belorussians support for their part I. This
Is that yellow thing an ice cream truck? I can just picture the Russian column rolling through Ukraine with "Pop Goes the Weasel" playing at 11.
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Dan Scott said:

BTC has been steady all weekend so far


Bitcoin dropped about 1200 in the last hour
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agent-maroon said:

JobSecurity said:


That tweet hadn't gone out until now?

I'm sure people will ignore the recommendation anyways.
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JobSecurity said:




I wonder what this is for
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SidetrackAg said:

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I wonder what this is for


I believe Russia has invaded the Ukraine.
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LOL NO **** ?

LOOK I HAVE GREAT INFO GUYS I ALWAYS TWEET IN ALL CAPS /whoever TF walter bloomberg is
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Here are the satellite images of the convoy heading toward Kyiv reported above

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Build It said:

Why do you think the ruskies haven't launched a naval bombardment? A blockade? Lots of ships still moving in the Black Sea so I suppose they fear the oil tankers would be sunk or not allowed through the straits?

They could destroy places like Odessa from the sea.

The number of missiles that the naval assets have to fire are limited. Your main Kaibr missile platforms in the Black Sea are 6 Kilo Class subs and a Slava class cruiser. Artillery bombardment would need to come from the land imo.

They have effectively been doing a blockade with those notices they've put out. Any direct, intentional attack to commercial shipping would be escalation.
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agent-maroon said:

JobSecurity said:


That tweet hadn't gone out until now?
Where are they supposed to go and how? Through Belarus to Poland? Through Ukraine to Poland? To Finland?

To China? To India?
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DubFalls said:

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I wonder what this is for


I believe Russia has invaded the Ukraine.


Lol I know. Funny that this tweet is sent out now instead of a few days ago
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