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It is the climate he has created at HIS company, so no, he should not be booted,

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It's not "HIS" company when he takes it public.

If you want to be a pervert, maintain ownership.

What is it with high profile, successful people and sex scandals?

Is it about high profile people or do you just not hear about it when Joe Dip **** in accounting tells a co-worker he wants to eat her ***** like he's mad at it?

I could easily see this happening in that organization. All their ads were roided up bros with tattooed boob job chicks in bikini tops. Those look like exactly the kind of messages that would get sent among that group (but no judgement here!).

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BRCC 2A for us bro vets, but not for Rittenhouse.

Bro vets gonna bro vet I guess...

I prefer warrior poet society to degenerate bro vet culture.

I cancelled my subscription long ago because it overpriced gross coffee. This is twice now since then I wished I could cancel again.

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This is going off on a tangent but that bro vet culture comes from a failure by leaders to enforce basic standards of decency. Abdication of responsibility by leaders and commanders allows rogue behavior to become acceptable. It starts OCONUS and then metastasizes back in garrison and you have people wondering how uniformed military are involved in rape, murder, and trafficking in weapons.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/delta-force-army-rape-coverup-1271045/

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I could easily see this happening in that organization. All their ads were roided up bros with tattooed boob job chicks in bikini tops. Those look like exactly the kind of messages that would get sent among that group (but no judgement here!).

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Back in the day I thought they were just non-PC ads and videos. Looks like the company culture was rotten underneath.

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It's not "HIS" company when he takes it public.

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I'll put it this way, anyone dumb enough to invest in his company thinking they were getting a wholesome product were just dumb, their entire appeal originally was the personality, it certainly wasn't about the coffee. It's sort of like investing in a strip club thinking you were getting a coffee shop

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I'll put it this way, anyone dumb enough to invest in his company thinking they were getting a wholesome product were just dumb, their entire appeal originally was the personality, it certainly wasn't about the coffee. It's sort of like investing in a strip club thinking you were getting a coffee shop

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Hmmm… would you like a little t&a with that mourning roast? I think you have stumbled onto a fine business idea.

I don't invest in individual stocks but drink their coffee via subscription and knew nothing about the T&A. I just had some while driving one day and liked it.

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I'll put it this way, anyone dumb enough to invest in his company thinking they were getting a wholesome product were just dumb, their entire appeal originally was the personality, it certainly wasn't about the coffee. It's sort of like investing in a strip club thinking you were getting a coffee shop

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I highly doubt the people buying the coffee because it was advertised on talk radio are as familiar with the owner as you apparently are. He's trash. Period. I hope word gets out.

You would be right to say he isn't morally a great person but calling him trash is a bit far. He is very active in the Veteran community fighting suicide among our ranks, he continually gives back to the Veteran community, he just isn't someone you want marrying your daughter but I could say that same about some of the best soldiers I ever served with. I don't know if you served but for many of us, especially enlisted Veterans, we have a different, dark sense of humor and many use that to mask the depression due to PTSD. Took me 13 years to find my way back to Church and change my life, but I still hang out with folks like this because as much as I've changed, these are the folks I'm most comfortable with after deployments. And they are always surprised when they see the former biker covered in tattoos with the big beard slowly sipping a beer but telling them how God has saved me. Mat is far from perfect, but you nor anybody else has the right to call someone trash, especially someone you've never met

Edit to say that even if folks heard about his business on talk radio, it isn't his fault they invested in his product without doing even the slightest bit of research

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You would be right to say he isn't morally a great person but calling him trash is a bit far. He is very active in the Veteran community fighting suicide among our ranks, he continually gives back to the Veteran community, he just isn't someone you want marrying your daughter but I could say that same about some of the best soldiers I ever served with. I don't know if you served but for many of us, especially enlisted Veterans, we have a different, dark sense of humor and many use that to mask the depression due to PTSD. Took me 13 years to find my way back to Church and change my life, but I still hang out with folks like this because as much as I've changed, these are the folks I'm most comfortable with after deployments. And they are always surprised when they see the former biker covered in tattoos with the big beard slowly sipping a beer but telling them how God has saved me. Mat is far from perfect, but you nor anybody else has the right to call someone trash, especially someone you've never met

Edit to say that even if folks heard about his business on talk radio, it isn't his fault they invested in his product without doing even the slightest bit of research

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They didn't "invest" in his product. They bought coffee because they fell for the veteran card, sadly.

And IMO he's vile. You won't change my mind. Sorry.

You may think he is vile but that person you call vile has done more to help his fellow Veterans than most out there. Sorry his texts got you clutching your pearls but that is how a lot of us talk to people we love and none of it mean it seriously, it's a joke. And sorry you fell for the Veteran card, not their fault, that's yours

The coffee sucks. Nothing else matters.

Trash people and trash coffee. I thought they were funny at first, but got tired of the whole bro-vet image. Then the Rittenhouse thing sealed the deal for me. Aren't they based out of Austin?

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You may think he is vile but that person you call vile has done more to help his fellow Veterans than most out there. Sorry his texts got you clutching your pearls but that is how a lot of us talk to people we love and none of it mean it seriously, it's a joke. And sorry you fell for the Veteran card, not their fault, that's yours

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I didn't fall for it. I've seen it played too many times, including on this thread.

And no one is clutching their pearls. If you read the thread, a lot of people think his behavior crosses a line. Your standards are skewed. Maybe go ask your pastor if his texts are appropriate.

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You may think he is vile but that person you call vile has done more to help his fellow Veterans than most out there. Sorry his texts got you clutching your pearls but that is how a lot of us talk to people we love and none of it mean it seriously, it's a joke. And sorry you fell for the Veteran card, not their fault, that's yours

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I didn't fall for it. I've seen it played too many times, including on this thread.

And no one is clutching their pearls. If you read the thread, a lot of people think his behavior crosses a line. Your standards are skewed. Maybe go ask your pastor if his texts are appropriate.

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I've said from the beginning he is a ******, not someone I'd do business with, but someone I've hung out with on occasion at events to help my fellow Veterans, but not someone I'd let my daughter marry, but I don't think he is trash, just a little lost. I don't think his texts are appropriate, hence the ****** comment, but I get the same sorts of texts from old buddies all the time, especially on important days. In talking to my pastor he knows it's unconventional and while I didn't see at first it takes folks like myself, no matter how minor the testimony to open people's eyes. I'm going to take a wild guess and say if I had folks yourself when I was close to suicide, that trigger might have been pulled. Thankfully there are people in the Veteran community doing everything they can to stop suicide in our ranks, one of those people who was there and donated the money to help were people like Best, stop with the sanctimonious bs

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You may think he is vile but that person you call vile has done more to help his fellow Veterans than most out there. Sorry his texts got you clutching your pearls but that is how a lot of us talk to people we love and none of it mean it seriously, it's a joke. And sorry you fell for the Veteran card, not their fault, that's yours

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Eh, from all indications there's more to dislike about this guy and his company than "dark humor" as you call it. They had no problem ****ting all over their customer base to curry favor with the New York Times. Then after they retweeted the article proudly, they got backlash and tried to do damage control. Plus their coffee sucks.

Not discounting the claims made about BRC by Nicole Arbour but just want to share the following to provide a bit more insight on her MO.

The only other time I've ever heard of her was a very early episode of Theo Vonn's podcast, "This Past Weekend" where he interviewed her about the controversy she caused when she released a parody of Childish Gambino's music video for "This is America".
I'll save you the trouble and tell you it was a brutal interview because she was SUPER annoying.

But here's the best part: afterward, she brought a lawsuit against Theo Vonn claiming that the studio headphones he gave her to wear during the interview caused bodily harm via electrical charge/electrocution!!
Unreal.

I really don't care. Their politics and leftist bs has sealed it.

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You may think he is vile but that person you call vile has done more to help his fellow Veterans than most out there. Sorry his texts got you clutching your pearls but that is how a lot of us talk to people we love and none of it mean it seriously, it's a joke. And sorry you fell for the Veteran card, not their fault, that's yours

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Eh, from all indications there's more to dislike about this guy and his company than "dark humor" as you call it. They had no problem ****ting all over their customer base to curry favor with the New York Times. Then after they retweeted the article proudly, they got backlash and tried to do damage control. Plus their coffee sucks.

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Don't get me wrong, not a fan of Black Rifle, product is crap, hated what they did after Rittenhouse, they were only popular because of personalities and as the preacher said, the Bro Veteran community. That aside, up until last month when I became a foster parent, my number one priority in life was combatting Veteran suicide, and despite his business practices, Best did more than most

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say if I had folks yourself when I was close to suicide, that trigger might have been pulled.

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But accurate, I know the type of people that helped

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I really don't care. Their politics and leftist bs has sealed it.

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I've not made one mention of their politics, I'm as conservative as they come but Veteran suicide is important to me, despite their politics they've done a lot in support of a cause I support

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You may think he is vile but that person you call vile has done more to help his fellow Veterans than most out there. Sorry his texts got you clutching your pearls but that is how a lot of us talk to people we love and none of it mean it seriously, it's a joke. And sorry you fell for the Veteran card, not their fault, that's yours

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I didn't fall for it. I've seen it played too many times, including on this thread.

And no one is clutching their pearls. If you read the thread, a lot of people think his behavior crosses a line. Your standards are skewed. Maybe go ask your pastor if his texts are appropriate.

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I've said from the beginning he is a ******, not someone I'd do business with, but someone I've hung out with on occasion at events to help my fellow Veterans, but not someone I'd let my daughter marry, but I don't think he is trash, just a little lost. I don't think his texts are appropriate, hence the ****** comment, but I get the same sorts of texts from old buddies all the time, especially on important days. In talking to my pastor he knows it's unconventional and while I didn't see at first it takes folks like myself, no matter how minor the testimony to open people's eyes. I'm going to take a wild guess and say if I had folks yourself when I was close to suicide, that trigger might have been pulled. Thankfully there are people in the Veteran community doing everything they can to stop suicide in our ranks, one of those people who was there and donated the money to help were people like Best, stop with the sanctimonious bs

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Wow. You are out of line. You know NOTHING about me except what I've said about the behavior of a coffee company owner.

Put me on the ignore list then, I know your type and I've only talked about an individual, not a coffee distributor

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say if I had folks yourself when I was close to suicide, that trigger might have been pulled.

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Sorry, but I was once there and since my close call in 2017 suicide prevention has been a big part of my purpose. I wasn't a good person back then, thankfully somebody didn't call me trash, they invited me to church and my life changed immediately

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Sorry, but I was once there and since my close call in 2017 suicide prevention has been a big part of my purpose. I wasn't a good person back then, thankfully somebody didn't call me trash, they invited me to church and my life changed immediately

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Yeah, sadly I'm very familiar with veteran suicide, and I'm very happy that you had that support system. Truly. It's something that too many of our fellow vets don't have and I do admire your passion for that cause.

I just think it's unfair to make that kind of statement to someone on this board that you do not know anything about, other than she doesn't like the BRCC president because of some pretty high profile things he's done/said. Her criticism of him in no way means that she's the type of person that would have caused you to kill yourself. Over the line IMHO.

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You would be right to say he isn't morally a great person but calling him trash is a bit far. He is very active in the Veteran community fighting suicide among our ranks, he continually gives back to the Veteran community, he just isn't someone you want marrying your daughter but I could say that same about some of the best soldiers I ever served with. I don't know if you served but for many of us, especially enlisted Veterans, we have a different, dark sense of humor and many use that to mask the depression due to PTSD. Took me 13 years to find my way back to Church and change my life, but I still hang out with folks like this because as much as I've changed, these are the folks I'm most comfortable with after deployments. And they are always surprised when they see the former biker covered in tattoos with the big beard slowly sipping a beer but telling them how God has saved me. Mat is far from perfect, but you nor anybody else has the right to call someone trash, especially someone you've never met

Edit to say that even if folks heard about his business on talk radio, it isn't his fault they invested in his product without doing even the slightest bit of research

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hes trash hth

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say if I had folks yourself when I was close to suicide, that trigger might have been pulled.

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Sorry, but I was once there and since my close call in 2017 suicide prevention has been a big part of my purpose. I wasn't a good person back then, thankfully somebody didn't call me trash, they invited me to church and my life changed immediately

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Yeah, sadly I'm very familiar with veteran suicide, and I'm very happy that you had that support system. Truly. It's something that too many of our fellow vets don't have and I do admire your passion for that cause.

I just think it's unfair to make that kind of statement to someone on this board that you do not know anything about, other than she doesn't like the BRCC president because of some pretty high profile things he's done/said. Her criticism of him in no way means that she's the type of person that would have caused you to kill yourself. Over the line IMHO.

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Would you say my assumption about crayon is as unfair as him/her insulting a guy he/she only knows thru this thread?

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You would be right to say he isn't morally a great person but calling him trash is a bit far. He is very active in the Veteran community fighting suicide among our ranks, he continually gives back to the Veteran community, he just isn't someone you want marrying your daughter but I could say that same about some of the best soldiers I ever served with. I don't know if you served but for many of us, especially enlisted Veterans, we have a different, dark sense of humor and many use that to mask the depression due to PTSD. Took me 13 years to find my way back to Church and change my life, but I still hang out with folks like this because as much as I've changed, these are the folks I'm most comfortable with after deployments. And they are always surprised when they see the former biker covered in tattoos with the big beard slowly sipping a beer but telling them how God has saved me. Mat is far from perfect, but you nor anybody else has the right to call someone trash, especially someone you've never met

Edit to say that even if folks heard about his business on talk radio, it isn't his fault they invested in his product without doing even the slightest bit of research

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hes trash hth

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Would love to hear how many hundreds of thousands of dollars you donate to the Veteran community to fight suicide as well as support other Veterans opening their own businesses

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You would be right to say he isn't morally a great person but calling him trash is a bit far. He is very active in the Veteran community fighting suicide among our ranks, he continually gives back to the Veteran community, he just isn't someone you want marrying your daughter but I could say that same about some of the best soldiers I ever served with. I don't know if you served but for many of us, especially enlisted Veterans, we have a different, dark sense of humor and many use that to mask the depression due to PTSD. Took me 13 years to find my way back to Church and change my life, but I still hang out with folks like this because as much as I've changed, these are the folks I'm most comfortable with after deployments. And they are always surprised when they see the former biker covered in tattoos with the big beard slowly sipping a beer but telling them how God has saved me. Mat is far from perfect, but you nor anybody else has the right to call someone trash, especially someone you've never met

Edit to say that even if folks heard about his business on talk radio, it isn't his fault they invested in his product without doing even the slightest bit of research

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hes trash hth

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Would love to hear how many hundreds of thousands of dollars you donate to the Veteran community to fight suicide as well as support other Veterans opening their own businessesQG

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I knew a rapist once who volunteered at a soup kitchen

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You would be right to say he isn't morally a great person but calling him trash is a bit far. He is very active in the Veteran community fighting suicide among our ranks, he continually gives back to the Veteran community, he just isn't someone you want marrying your daughter but I could say that same about some of the best soldiers I ever served with. I don't know if you served but for many of us, especially enlisted Veterans, we have a different, dark sense of humor and many use that to mask the depression due to PTSD. Took me 13 years to find my way back to Church and change my life, but I still hang out with folks like this because as much as I've changed, these are the folks I'm most comfortable with after deployments. And they are always surprised when they see the former biker covered in tattoos with the big beard slowly sipping a beer but telling them how God has saved me. Mat is far from perfect, but you nor anybody else has the right to call someone trash, especially someone you've never met

Edit to say that even if folks heard about his business on talk radio, it isn't his fault they invested in his product without doing even the slightest bit of research

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hes trash hth

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Would love to hear how many hundreds of thousands of dollars you donate to the Veteran community to fight suicide as well as support other Veterans opening their own businessesQG

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I knew a rapist once who volunteered at a soup kitchen

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Who?

Also, ******* to rapist is quite the jump, spooning a cup of soup doesn't much compare to donating hundreds of thousands of dollars. My sister was raped as a child, I'm pretty sure she'd appreciate you not making a false equivalence

Mat is trash