Tonga

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Agthatbuilds
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Crazy volcano visual

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10405333/Tongans-flee-lives-tsunami-smashes-island-nation-underwater-volcano-erupts.html
"I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

-Benjamin Franklin
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Agthatbuilds said:

Crazy volcano visual


looks like the after effects when someone eats at taco bell.
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I think my weather station caught a pressure spike
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And that one eruption probably pumped more co2 into the atmosphere than we've "saved" through 20 years of "green policies"
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Well that just ruined my anti climate change efforts for the next 50k years
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Video states, "The volcano was previously declared dormant on Tuesday."

Humans are so arrogant and often wrong when it comes to understanding the world we live in.
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DrEvazanPhD said:

And that one eruption probably pumped more co2 into the atmosphere than we've "saved" through 20 years of "green policies"


All this means is we need to double down on our efforts and give the government more control
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Todd 02 said:

Video states, "The volcano was previously declared dormant on Tuesday."

Humans are so arrogant and often wrong when it comes to understanding the world we live in.
Plate Tectonics - eleventy billion, Man - Still zero


I'm sure this will be spun as something we contributed to.



Stealth Stacked, but not with Saints double D's=
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Any moment, Greta will blame fracing and then demand that energy companies conduct a massive cleanup.
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DrEvazanPhD said:

And that one eruption probably pumped more co2 into the atmosphere than we've "saved" through 20 years of "green policies"
But SCIENCE!
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DrEvazanPhD said:

And that one eruption probably pumped more co2 into the atmosphere than we've "saved" through 20 years of "green policies"
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HoldMyBeer said:

Any moment, Greta will blame fracing and the demand that energy companies conduct a massive cleanup.


How Dare You! (DoubleDog with a much better post a few seconds before mine!)
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I was hoping this was about the Tonga duplicating El Salvador legal tender bill for bitcoin.

T&p
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Todd 02 said:

Video states, "The volcano was previously declared dormant on Tuesday."

Humans are so arrogant and often wrong when it comes to understanding the world we live in.
Plate Tectonics - eleventy billion, Man - Still zero


I'm sure this will be spun as something we contributed to.
The day this planet decides that she is done with us, she'll reach into her tool box and grab one of her many options-- and there won't be f*** all we can do about it. She will drop us like 3rd period French.
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Well I'm disappointed. When I read the post title I thought this discussion was about the strip joint in Beaumont.
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Haaaaaaaa!
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Damn, if only Hillary had been on a boating trip in that area, I'd enjoy it more.
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Did the factory where they make the Tonga trucks make it ok!?
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Agthatbuilds said:


That shock wave is incredible. That has to be one of the largest expolosions ever recorded.

Mankind is so arrogant to think we can control the climate. We aren't nearly as smart or powerful as we'd like to think we are.
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Clob94 said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Todd 02 said:

Video states, "The volcano was previously declared dormant on Tuesday."

Humans are so arrogant and often wrong when it comes to understanding the world we live in.
Plate Tectonics - eleventy billion, Man - Still zero


I'm sure this will be spun as something we contributed to.
The day this planet decides that she is done with us, she'll reach into her tool box and grab one of her many options-- and there won't be f*** all we can do about it. She will drop us like 3rd period French.

Michael Crichton's view on consensus

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Here's what Michael Crichton had to say about "scientific consensus" back in 2003 when he gave a lecture at the California Institute of Technology titled "Aliens Cause Global Warming" (emphasis mine):
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I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.
Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.
In addition, let me remind you that the track record of the consensus is nothing to be proud of. Let's review a few cases.In past centuries, the greatest killer of women was fever following childbirth. One woman in six died of this fever. In 1795, Alexander Gordon of Aberdeen suggested that the fevers were infectious processes, and he was able to cure them. The consensus said no.
In 1843, Oliver Wendell Holmes claimed puerperal fever was contagious, and presented compelling evidence. The consensus said no.
In 1849, Semmelweiss demonstrated that sanitary techniques virtually eliminated puerperal fever in hospitals under his management. The consensus said he was a Jew, ignored him, and dismissed him from his post. There was in fact no agreement on puerperal fever until the start of the twentieth century. Thus the consensus took one hundred and twenty five years to arrive at the right conclusion despite the efforts of the prominent "skeptics" around the world, skeptics who were demeaned and ignored. And despite the constant ongoing deaths of women.
There is no shortage of other examples. In the 1920s in America, tens of thousands of people, mostly poor, were dying of a disease called pellagra. The consensus of scientists said it was infectious, and what was necessary was to find the "pellagra germ." The US government asked a brilliant young investigator, Dr. Joseph Goldberger, to find the cause. Goldberger concluded that diet was the crucial factor. The consensus remained wedded to the germ theory.
Goldberger demonstrated that he could induce the disease through diet. He demonstrated that the disease was not infectious by injecting the blood of a pellagra patient into himself, and his assistant. They and other volunteers swabbed their noses with swabs from pellagra patients, and swallowed capsules containing scabs from pellagra rashes in what were called "Goldberger's filth parties." Nobody contracted pellagra.
The consensus continued to disagree with him. There was, in addition, a social factor-southern States disliked the idea of poor diet as the cause, because it meant that social reform was required. They continued to deny it until the 1920s. Result-despite a twentieth century epidemic, the consensus took years to see the light.
Probably every schoolchild notices that South America and Africa seem to fit together rather snugly, and Alfred Wegener proposed, in 1912, that the continents had in fact drifted apart. The consensus sneered at continental drift for fifty years. The theory was most vigorously denied by the great names of geology-until 1961, when it began to seem as if the sea floors were spreading. The result: it took the consensus fifty years to acknowledge what any schoolchild sees.
And shall we go on? The examples can be multiplied endlessly. Jenner and smallpox, Pasteur and germ theory. Saccharine, margarine, repressed memory, fiber and colon cancer, hormone replacement therapy. The list of consensus errors goes on and on.
Finally, I would remind you to notice where the claim of consensus is invoked. Consensus is invoked only in situations where the science is not solid enough. Nobody says the consensus of scientists agrees that E=mc2. Nobody says the consensus is that the sun is 93 million miles away. It would never occur to anyone to speak that way.


Emphasis on bolded parts.

When nature happens there ain't crap we can do about it, but try and convince any global warming / climate change loons of this.

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Clob94 said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Todd 02 said:

Video states, "The volcano was previously declared dormant on Tuesday."

Humans are so arrogant and often wrong when it comes to understanding the world we live in.
Plate Tectonics - eleventy billion, Man - Still zero


I'm sure this will be spun as something we contributed to.
The day this planet decides that she is done with us, she'll reach into her tool box and grab one of her many options-- and there won't be f*** all we can do about it. She will drop us like 3rd period French.


George Carlin said it best. Mother Nature will shake us off like a bad case of fleas.
"I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

-Benjamin Franklin
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Dude was comedic genius.
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Todd 02 said:

Video states, "The volcano was previously declared dormant on Tuesday."

Humans are so arrogant and often wrong when it comes to understanding the world we live in.


This can't be stated enough. Thank you sir. Beat me to it.
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DrEvazanPhD said:

And that one eruption probably pumped more co2 into the atmosphere than we've "saved" through 20 years of "green policies"


We will need to add a half degree to our 2030 goals because of this. That's at least another $1T of taxpayer dollars sent to the UN to get there.
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Climatavidians will be along to lecture, scold, and shame us in allowing this to occur.
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Todd 02 said:

Video states, "The volcano was previously declared dormant on Tuesday."

Humans are so arrogant and often wrong when it comes to understanding the world we live in.


This
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These images and videos are truly awesome. But, the satellite videos that point out the shock wave all seem to be a time-lapse since the darkness you can see is covering the earth pretty dang fast. Does this make it look more impressive? Just curious what others' takes are on these videos.
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I think I saw mentioned in one of the Twitter threads that the time lapse of those videos is about 3 hours.
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Great post. I saved that article as that explains the science we all used to recognize.
 
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