You do like to hear yourself ramble don't you. That's what you're all about.

For those lying (and anyone else interested) about the Vaxxes being approved. they are not.

FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine | FDA

That is from the FDA's own website, dated in August 23, 2021. A very misleading headline and a very misleading announcement, but here is the first paragraph:

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir'-na-tee), for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older. The vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization (EUA), including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals.

It is "Approved" for Emergency Use Authorization. That isn't APPROVED. The first sentence makes it sound hunky dory. Then you read the second sentence where it says it 'continues' to be available under EUA. So to be clear what they did was not approve the vax, they simply approved the extension of the EUA.

(Italics and Bold are mine.)

It's not just about the military though.

You have been cheer-leading this vaccine from day one. Calling is free, safe, and effective / A modern miracle. People that don't get it are just afraid of needles. People that do get the shot won't end up in the hospital or get very sick. Anyone that brings up safety concerns or tells a first hand account of side effects from the vaccine are mocked by you or your wife. You are moving the damn goal posts again if you try to claim that you are just following orders.

You are wrong about the vaccine. It isn't all that great and it sure isn't the magic bullet that it was sold as in the beginning. At best, it helps with symptoms like a therapeutic. But, it sucks as a vaccine.

I'll make sure and note that for our 12 to 15 year old soldiers.

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It's not just about the military though.

You have been cheer-leading this vaccine from day one. Calling is free, safe, and effective / A modern miracle. People that don't get it are just afraid of needles. People that do get the shot won't end up in the hospital of get very sick. Anyone that brings up safety concerns or tells a first hand account of side effects from the vaccine are mocked by you or your wife. You are moving the damn goal posts again if you try to claim that you are just following orders.

You are wrong about the vaccine. It isn't all that great and it sure isn't the magic bullet that it was sold as in the beginning. At best, it helps with symptoms like a therapeutic. But, it sucks as a vaccine.

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Then don't get it.

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STV is having a rough new year

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How so? 99.4% of the navy is now vaccinated. Our unit is 100%. A few crybaby problem children ran to court and even if the "win" their careers are done and they will be buried later.

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Good, burry these guys.....................what a loser you are! Dudes standing up for their freedoms and you not only want to call them crybabies, but you applaud the ending of their careers! You sir are a real stand up citizen.

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I don't care if you're an E1 laundry clerk or a O6 SOCOM commander. The backbone of what we do is following lawful orders and carrying out the objectives of the officers appointed over us. Period. The end. If you can't do that then get the F out.

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They just proved in court that it was not a "lawful order". Retaliating against service members who sued to avoid following an unlawful order is disgusting and should result in the court marshal of those taking part in it. Those officers gave an unconstitutional order the SEALs who chose to disobey it and challenge it in court won. That should be the end of it. If anything, the Navy should be washing out the guy giving the unlawful order. But that would be insurrection I guess...

That's because it's not a vaccine. It's just called that for the sake of convenience.

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STV is having a rough new year

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How so? 99.4% of the navy is now vaccinated. Our unit is 100%. A few crybaby problem children ran to court and even if the "win" their careers are done and they will be buried later.

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Good, burry these guys.....................what a loser you are! Dudes standing up for their freedoms and you not only want to call them crybabies, but you applaud the ending of their careers! You sir are a real stand up citizen.

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I don't care if you're an E1 laundry clerk or a O6 SOCOM commander. The backbone of what we do is following lawful orders and carrying out the objectives of the officers appointed over us. Period. The end. If you can't do that then get the F out.

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They just proved in court that it was not a "lawful order". Retaliating against service members who sued to avoid following an unlawful order is disgusting and should result in the court marshal of those taking part in it. Those officers gave an unconstitutional order the SEALs who chose to disobey it and challenge it in court won. That should be the end of it. If anything, the Navy should be washing out the guy giving the unlawful order. But that would be insurrection I guess...

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This case isn't over. Just like the OSHA mandate case wasn't over.

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It's not just about the military though.

You have been cheer-leading this vaccine from day one. Calling is free, safe, and effective / A modern miracle. People that don't get it are just afraid of needles. People that do get the shot won't end up in the hospital of get very sick. Anyone that brings up safety concerns or tells a first hand account of side effects from the vaccine are mocked by you or your wife. You are moving the damn goal posts again if you try to claim that you are just following orders.

You are wrong about the vaccine. It isn't all that great and it sure isn't the magic bullet that it was sold as in the beginning. At best, it helps with symptoms like a therapeutic. But, it sucks as a vaccine.

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Then don't get it.

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That's why a lot of us are ticked off about the mandates. What don't you understand about this? You get off on kicking these "bad apples" out of the military. It's wrong and your opinion on this matter is wrong. And, you should feel bad.

So basically you're just acting on behalf of libs talking points because you sure don't have any expertise. You just cherry-pick lib articles.

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It's not just about the military though.

You have been cheer-leading this vaccine from day one. Calling is free, safe, and effective / A modern miracle. People that don't get it are just afraid of needles. People that do get the shot won't end up in the hospital of get very sick. Anyone that brings up safety concerns or tells a first hand account of side effects from the vaccine are mocked by you or your wife. You are moving the damn goal posts again if you try to claim that you are just following orders.

You are wrong about the vaccine. It isn't all that great and it sure isn't the magic bullet that it was sold as in the beginning. At best, it helps with symptoms like a therapeutic. But, it sucks as a vaccine.

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Then don't get it.

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That's why a lot of us are ticked off about the mandates. What don't you understand about this? You get off on kicking these "bad apples" out of the military. It's wrong and your opinion on this matter is wrong. And, you should feel bad.

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We have always forced vaccinations. When you get to down to less than 0.50% of the military that refuses to follow an order on something they've always had to do I assume bad apples. You don't like my opinion? Fine, don't agree with it.

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So basically you're just acting on behalf of libs talking points because you sure don't have any expertise. You just cherry-pick peer reviewed data and studies.

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FIFY

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Ah yes, the Hnorable "I got my ass handed to me by SCOTUS over Obamacare" Reed O'Connor.

He's the right equivalent of the Hawaiian Obama Judge.

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is this poster seriously suggesting that being overturned on appeal on an entirely unrelated matter is somehow authoritative for all matters before a judge? Must've gone to Hollywood Upstairs College of Law, Home Locksmith Repair, or Earn Your GED.

Imagine being an officer and telling a junior officer, if you dont like a questionable order you should just get out. And **** your career and ever advancing if you speak up or dont toe the line.

No wonder our morale and esprit de corps is so high in the military. With goobers giving advice like that, no wonder all the good officers leave and we have higher up failures like Milly running the show.

I hope you are an overzealous POTG junior NCO and not a commissioned officer. For ****s sake.

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So basically you're just acting on behalf of libs talking points because you sure don't have any expertise. You just cherry-pick lib reviewed data and lib studies.

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FIFY

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FIFY

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Maybe....but something changed.....this is the most extreme i have seen from STM that I can remember.

Historically STM was pro-vaccine / anti-mandate.

Now STM is fully on board with government forcing jabs into our service members with no scientific basis.

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I have always defended the right of the military to vaccine military members, as we have done for both fully approved and experimental vaccines in the past.

However, this board has now shifted as well to supporting a millennial based "I do what I want" social engineering mindset with the military as well.

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Again, Why should the members of the military be forced to take a vaccine that doesn't work?

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Because peer reviewed data and studies have shown that it works. That's all that matters to the DOD. They don't care about Joe Rogan's interview. Or the podcast you listened to. Or the video your friend sent you with the X number of doctors totes agree with.

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There is more data that shows it doesn't…. It is just ignored…. Why are you ignoring that data? Those results? As well as the fact that more and more side effects are popping up?

Or the fact that those under 30 are barely affected by the virus at all? Which is the largest portion of the military being forced to take this? Why the hell os the vaccine necessary then? You are so full of it…. You have accepted the lies and allowed the govt and the media to think for you….

O'Connor is pretty much known as the go to judge for rubber stamping conservative issues. The left has judges like that too. It is what it is.

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Imagine being an officer and telling a junior officer, if you dont like a questionable order you should just get out. And **** your career and ever advancing if you speak up or dont toe the line.

No wonder our morale and esprit de corps is so high in the military. With goobers giving advice like that, no wonder all the good officers leave and we have higher up failures like Milly running the show.

I hope you are an overzealous POTG junior NCO and not a commissioned officer. For ****s sake.

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What about CW3?

Maybe you should slow down on your soap-boxing and watch some of the current news coming out about your precious vaccine.

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FriscoKid said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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It's not just about the military though.

You have been cheer-leading this vaccine from day one. Calling is free, safe, and effective / A modern miracle. People that don't get it are just afraid of needles. People that do get the shot won't end up in the hospital of get very sick. Anyone that brings up safety concerns or tells a first hand account of side effects from the vaccine are mocked by you or your wife. You are moving the damn goal posts again if you try to claim that you are just following orders.

You are wrong about the vaccine. It isn't all that great and it sure isn't the magic bullet that it was sold as in the beginning. At best, it helps with symptoms like a therapeutic. But, it sucks as a vaccine.

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Then don't get it.

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That's why a lot of us are ticked off about the mandates. What don't you understand about this? You get off on kicking these "bad apples" out of the military. It's wrong and your opinion on this matter is wrong. And, you should feel bad.

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We have always forced vaccinations. When you get to down to less than 0.50% of the military that refuses to follow an order on something they've always had to do I assume bad apples. You don't like my opinion? Fine, don't agree with it.

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I don't like your opinion, but nice pivot to "you are just following orders".

You have been going down on this vaccine like a Hungarian prom queen for the past year and now you are trying to convince everyone that you are just supporting the vaccine because the military told you to. That's a pretty big goalpost lift, even for you.

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I get it. What a shame. Shame on leadership for forcing unnecessary medical procedures on young, healthy adults. Shame on those who coaxed people into getting it when they were hesitant but their bosses pushed it on them. Shame on you for name calling a handful of individuals who decided to think for themselves...and guess what...they are actually right

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My attitude regarding this topic far exceeds the issue of vaccination. Dissention and disrespect are at, what I feel, is an all time high in the military. NCO's have their hands tied on multiple fronts regarding discipline and enforcement. The new soldiers are constantly disrespectful, question everything, harder to stay on focus and mission. It's rampant and its rotting things from the inside out. So yes, it's a peeve of mine and perhaps some of that is spilling over here in regards to my jaded attitude. So if you're looking for what I get heated or turn into a mega-******* on this topic maybe that's why.

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My bigger issue with you is that you blindly accept BS half science promoted by the CDC, a biased political party, and an even more biased media as truth when the overwhelming actual evidence and studies show the opposite to be the case.

That you think the right thing is for a healthy under 30 year old is to take a vaccine, that has major questions and issues surrounding it, for this "Covid" in whatever form you want to look at it in that has a ridiculously minimal effect on their demographic. That is absolutely what the science and numbers and truth show. Period!!! Covid has virtually no impact on healthy under 30 year olds, which is the exact group you are saying should just shut up and take the vaccine.

Irony is criticizing SEALs for violating their oath by not wanting an emergency use vaccine while taking in gross detail of their escapades banging & "deep kissing" European prostitutes as a married man.

Hypocrite much there STV?



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So STV is a ****ing admin pogue? Hahaha. What a loathsome, disgusting part of our military.

I think STV has had another bad day. His tally sheet shows only one recruit signed on. Himself.

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Any service member who actually engages in prostitution should be subject to full UCMJ. To my knowledge, those who post made up stories on the general board of a college football fan forum have little to worry about.

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So you're saying that all the posts you made as Bo Danvile and/or Bayside Tiger Ag about your exploits with Eastern European prostitues were lies?

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Any service member who actually engages in prostitution should be subject to full UCMJ. To my knowledge, those who post made up stories on the general board of a college football fan forum have little to worry about.

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So you're saying that all the posts you made as Bo Danvile and/or Bayside Tiger Ag about your exploits with Eastern European prostitues were lies?

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I believe that's been admitted as a troll many times.

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Any service member who actually engages in prostitution should be subject to full UCMJ. To my knowledge, those who post made up stories on the general board of a college football fan forum have little to worry about.

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So you're saying that all the posts you made as Bo Danvile and/or Bayside Tiger Ag about your exploits with Eastern European prostitues were lies?

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Oh ****! That's the same guy?

Wow

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Imagine being an officer and telling a junior officer, if you dont like a questionable order you should just get out. And **** your career and ever advancing if you speak up or dont toe the line.

No wonder our morale and esprit de corps is so high in the military. With goobers giving advice like that, no wonder all the good officers leave and we have higher up failures like Milly running the show.

I hope you are an overzealous POTG junior NCO and not a commissioned officer. For ****s sake.

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What about CW3?

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Then that actually explains a lot and you should use the phrase "my soldiers" very sparingly.

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STV is having a rough new year

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How so? 99.4% of the navy is now vaccinated. Our unit is 100%. A few crybaby problem children ran to court and even if the "win" their careers are done and they will be buried later.

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Ever stop and wonder how you are so consistently wrong on this topic?

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Judging by the fact that my unit is 100% vac vaccinated and I personally counseled and applied adequate pressure on a few to get there I feel quite satisfied with my efforts on this topic.

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You are an unethical individual

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The developmental counseling is used for all matters of personal conduct. So is refusing to send people to school for promotion and not signing off on their promotion packets if they refuse to comply with DOD and leadership mandates.

I will use all the tools I'm given as a leader.

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LOL you have no clue what a leader is.
You may have people that serve under you but that doesn't make you a leader.

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To be honest I have followed STM through a lot of threads over the year....while I have not always agreed there have been times that he/she made some sense....


This almost feels like a hijack of his/her account.....

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STM is actually 2 posters.
The wife works in pharmaceutical sales IIRC and the husband is in the Army Reserves.
That is why Some STM posts are inconsistent with other STM posts

Well now he's started a new thread since this one didn't go so well.

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Well now he's started a new thread since this one didn't go so well.

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I am quite pleased with this thread and the vaccination rates in the DOD. And I look forward to seeing O'Connor having yet another case overruled.

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planoaggie123 said:

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To be honest I have followed STM through a lot of threads over the year....while I have not always agreed there have been times that he/she made some sense....


This almost feels like a hijack of his/her account.....

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STM is actually 2 posters.
The wife works in pharmaceutical sales IIRC and the husband is in the Army Reserves.
That is why Some STM posts are inconsistent with other STM posts

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They really aren't "inconsistent." He's convinced you it's two posters, but it's really just one guy obsessed with the vaccine. And prostitutes (kidding)

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Well now he's started a new thread since this one didn't go so well.

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I am quite pleased with this thread and the vaccination rates in the DOD. And I look forward to seeing O'Connor having yet another case overruled.

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Ok, so you ARE in favor of vaccine mandates then? Because in several other threads I have seen you say that you think everybody should want to take them, but you are against mandating it. Let me go and update my spreadsheet....AGAIN!

He's against mandates unless by military.