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redline248 said:

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Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?

Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?

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That's about it tbh. It really is. Attack the financials and hope they wither and die on the vine. Which will take time. Russia stacked cash reserves apparently. Enough for at least a little while. Russia will destabilize to SOME extent. Just need to put that on a slider with time, casualties, and world opinion and at some junction of those variables Ukraine may actually live.

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Sittin here waitin to see how white people are gonna blame this whole Russian invasion of the Ukraine on Black people 🤔 pic.twitter.com/kGRNKLqvhd

— David Alan Grier (@davidalangrier) February 25, 2022

redline248 said:

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Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?

Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?

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redline248 said:

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Eliminatus said:

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redline248 said:

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Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?

Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?

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That's about it tbh. It really is. Attack the financials and hope they wither and die on the vine. Which will take time. Russia stacked cash reserves apparently. Enough for at least a little while. Russia will destabilize to SOME extent. Just need to put that on a slider with time, casualties, and world opinion and at some junction of those variables Ukraine may actually live.

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It just baffles me that the so-called Western world seems, largely, unwilling to really put the hurt on Russia and doesn't care if Ukraine becomes Putin's puppet state.

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TChaney said:

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Sittin here waitin to see how white people are gonna blame this whole Russian invasion of the Ukraine on Black people 🤔 pic.twitter.com/kGRNKLqvhd

— David Alan Grier (@davidalangrier) February 25, 2022

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"We are ready to hold talks at any moment, once the Ukrainian Armed Forces respond to our president's call, end their resistance and lay down their arms," Lavrov said.

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lb3 said:

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redline248 said:

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Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?

Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?

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Is it possible? Yes. A complete economic embargo would crush Russia (until China could close the gap). But Europe would suffer a major energy shock when Russia responded in kind.

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EASTBOUND GAS FLOWS FROM GERMANY TO POLAND VIA YAMAL - EUROPE PIPELINE HAVE BEEN STOPPED - DATA

PRELIMINARY BIDS EMERGE TO SHIP GAS VIA YAMAL - EUROPE PIPELINE WESTBOUND TO GERMANY - GASCADE DATA

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 25, 2022

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Is he joking or serious? Can't tell.

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NOBODY is worried/talking about Ukraine standing in solidarity with black people from police brutality 😂😂😂😂

— ✨Tittyrrific Tootie ✨ (@TattoosNLipstck) February 25, 2022

For many years sports clubs have been sanctioning non EU players for speaking up about crisis or genocide in their homeland.

Their reason has always been “don’t bring politics to sports”

Now UEFA, ManUtd, Formula1 have all got involved in Ukraine.

BLACK PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES‼️

— The Son 🤴🏿🦁 (@RealKingSimba11) February 25, 2022

What’s wild to me is how many people are so willing to speak up about Ukraine but not about the injustices that have happened this month to black people 🥴

— Baby D (@biggiepawsz) February 25, 2022

🛑🛑🛑Video that’s being spread on social media showing civilian cars that were hit with #Putin regime tank fire in Butcha, near Kyiv . Battle ongoing there.#Ukraine #Russia pic.twitter.com/Axj5AoklLq

— Слава Україні🇺🇦 (@ignis_fatum) February 25, 2022

After the numbers, Ukraine’s top military official ended the statement saying “Welcome to Hell.” The key is do Russians have the will to suffer heavy losses. They’ve already lost more than the US did in Afghanistan. Ukraine is putting up a serious fight.

— Steve Beynon (@StevenBeynon) February 25, 2022

japantiger said:

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lb3 said:

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redline248 said:

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Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?

Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?

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Is it possible? Yes. A complete economic embargo would crush Russia (until China could close the gap). But Europe would suffer a major energy shock when Russia responded in kind.

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Russia supplies 35% of Europe's Natural Gas...this was before Nordstream2. Germany is set to mothball it's remaining 3 nuclear reactors. It gets awfully cold in Northern Europe and the son doesn't shine much for a lot of the year. They have no alternative. They walked right into Putin's hands.

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BattleGrackle said:

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I'm shocked

JUST IN - Biden admin presented China with intelligence on Russia's troop buildup in hopes Xi would step in.

Chinese officials rebuffed the U.S. and apparently shared the information with Moscow.https://t.co/VYLWCNGmyP

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) February 25, 2022

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This Russian war crime got caught on camera. #Ukrainepic.twitter.com/M4XNegFViF

— Grant Stern is boosted! (@grantstern) February 25, 2022

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This Russian war crime got caught on camera. #Ukrainepic.twitter.com/M4XNegFViF

— Grant Stern is boosted! (@grantstern) February 25, 2022

ETA: yes, I know this guy is lib whack job.

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Italian prime minister Mario Draghi successfully secured a carve out for Italian luxury goods from the EU's package of economic sanctions against Nato, EU dip tells me. 'Apparently selling Gucci loafers to oligarchs is more of a priority than hitting back at Putin,' source adds.

— Joe Barnes (@Barnes_Joe) February 25, 2022

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I'd say Moldova would be next on the clock to keep them out of Rumania's arms. Another non-NATO former USSR Republic to regain without the west doing any more than they are doing now.

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Italian prime minister Mario Draghi successfully secured a carve out for Italian luxury goods from the EU's package of economic sanctions against Nato, EU dip tells me. 'Apparently selling Gucci loafers to oligarchs is more of a priority than hitting back at Putin,' source adds.

— Joe Barnes (@Barnes_Joe) February 25, 2022

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I'd say Moldova would be next on the clock to keep them out of Rumania's arms. Another non-NATO former USSR Republic to regain without the west doing any more than they are doing now.

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Moldova then Georgia.

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