Speaking of, which countries have expelled their Russian embassy staff?
***** OFFICIAL Russia v. Ukraine *****
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It just baffles me that the so-called Western world seems, largely, unwilling to really put the hurt on Russia and doesn't care if Ukraine becomes Putin's puppet state.Eliminatus said:That's about it tbh. It really is. Attack the financials and hope they wither and die on the vine. Which will take time. Russia stacked cash reserves apparently. Enough for at least a little while. Russia will destabilize to SOME extent. Just need to put that on a slider with time, casualties, and world opinion and at some junction of those variables Ukraine may actually live.redline248 said:
Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?
Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?
Guess the Russians won't have to worry about their exempt status to the Olympics…
Sittin here waitin to see how white people are gonna blame this whole Russian invasion of the Ukraine on Black people 🤔 pic.twitter.com/kGRNKLqvhd
— David Alan Grier (@davidalangrier) February 25, 2022
Is it possible? Yes. A complete economic embargo would crush Russia (until China could close the gap). But Europe would suffer a major energy shock when Russia responded in kind.redline248 said:
Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?
Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?
Lots of speculation as to why. Probably a combination of all of them of course. IMO, the biggest weapon Russia is its nukes. They are using them to browbeat us and keep us on the fence, afraid of what may be. Meanwhile they bully and invade other countries at their whim.redline248 said:It just baffles me that the so-called Western world seems, largely, unwilling to really put the hurt on Russia and doesn't care if Ukraine becomes Putin's puppet state.Eliminatus said:That's about it tbh. It really is. Attack the financials and hope they wither and die on the vine. Which will take time. Russia stacked cash reserves apparently. Enough for at least a little while. Russia will destabilize to SOME extent. Just need to put that on a slider with time, casualties, and world opinion and at some junction of those variables Ukraine may actually live.redline248 said:
Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?
Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?
This is akin to watching the neighborhood bully beat on the young kids while the older kids watch, afraid that if they intervene, guns come out.
And that's the crux, the harshest rmbargos on oil/NG would crush Europe because they've tied themselves so deeply to energy imports.
Be a shame if some of those plants pushing pipelines suddenly went offline because they exploded.
Be a shame if some of those plants pushing pipelines suddenly went offline because they exploded.
Is he joking or serious? Can't tell.TChaney said:Sittin here waitin to see how white people are gonna blame this whole Russian invasion of the Ukraine on Black people 🤔 pic.twitter.com/kGRNKLqvhd
— David Alan Grier (@davidalangrier) February 25, 2022
I'm shocked
JUST IN - Biden admin presented China with intelligence on Russia's troop buildup in hopes Xi would step in.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) February 25, 2022
Chinese officials rebuffed the U.S. and apparently shared the information with Moscow.https://t.co/VYLWCNGmyP
Russia is apparently ready to negotiate.
Riiiight. That's not having talks, that's called surrender.
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"We are ready to hold talks at any moment, once the Ukrainian Armed Forces respond to our president's call, end their resistance and lay down their arms," Lavrov said.
Riiiight. That's not having talks, that's called surrender.
Russia supplies 35% of Europe's Natural Gas...this was before Nordstream2. Germany is set to mothball it's remaining 3 nuclear reactors. It gets awfully cold in Northern Europe and the son doesn't shine much for a lot of the year. They have no alternative. They walked right into Putin's hands.lb3 said:Is it possible? Yes. A complete economic embargo would crush Russia (until China could close the gap). But Europe would suffer a major energy shock when Russia responded in kind.redline248 said:
Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?
Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?
Trying to find a map of this line.
EASTBOUND GAS FLOWS FROM GERMANY TO POLAND VIA YAMAL - EUROPE PIPELINE HAVE BEEN STOPPED - DATA
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 25, 2022
PRELIMINARY BIDS EMERGE TO SHIP GAS VIA YAMAL - EUROPE PIPELINE WESTBOUND TO GERMANY - GASCADE DATA
Need to pull out the stops on American pipelines and LNG export.
Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are on the clock.
The Chechen news really troubles me. These will be the guys committing mass war crimes roe the sake of creating fear to control the population. I pray they don't even make it to Ukraine
I really don't know.Quote:
Is he joking or serious? Can't tell.
But there are a lot of people out there trying to get into top victim status positions.
NOBODY is worried/talking about Ukraine standing in solidarity with black people from police brutality 😂😂😂😂
— ✨Tittyrrific Tootie ✨ (@TattoosNLipstck) February 25, 2022
For many years sports clubs have been sanctioning non EU players for speaking up about crisis or genocide in their homeland.
— The Son 🤴🏿🦁 (@RealKingSimba11) February 25, 2022
Their reason has always been “don’t bring politics to sports”
Now UEFA, ManUtd, Formula1 have all got involved in Ukraine.
BLACK PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES‼️
What’s wild to me is how many people are so willing to speak up about Ukraine but not about the injustices that have happened this month to black people 🥴
— Baby D (@biggiepawsz) February 25, 2022
I'd say Moldova would be next on the clock to keep them out of Rumania's arms. Another non-NATO former USSR Republic to regain without the west doing any more than they are doing now.
🛑🛑🛑Video that’s being spread on social media showing civilian cars that were hit with #Putin regime tank fire in Butcha, near Kyiv . Battle ongoing there.#Ukraine #Russia pic.twitter.com/Axj5AoklLq
— Слава Україні🇺🇦 (@ignis_fatum) February 25, 2022
Fking now??!
GERMAN FINANCE MINISTER SAYS WE ARE OPEN TO CUTTING RUSSIA OFF SWIFT
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 25, 2022
It's Friday; a father tearfully places his daughter on a bus to safety before returning to battle for Ukrainepic.twitter.com/GoqYmMDyjo
— Hy Bender (@hybender) February 25, 2022
Russia shut off the gas
Better late than never, but should have happened when the first missile was launched. Same for the US
After the numbers, Ukraine’s top military official ended the statement saying “Welcome to Hell.” The key is do Russians have the will to suffer heavy losses. They’ve already lost more than the US did in Afghanistan. Ukraine is putting up a serious fight.
— Steve Beynon (@StevenBeynon) February 25, 2022
Yeah understood. **** em.
Let the US and others step up cargo exports - we'll find a way.
Let the US and others step up cargo exports - we'll find a way.
Good answers.japantiger said:Russia supplies 35% of Europe's Natural Gas...this was before Nordstream2. Germany is set to mothball it's remaining 3 nuclear reactors. It gets awfully cold in Northern Europe and the son doesn't shine much for a lot of the year. They have no alternative. They walked right into Putin's hands.lb3 said:Is it possible? Yes. A complete economic embargo would crush Russia (until China could close the gap). But Europe would suffer a major energy shock when Russia responded in kind.redline248 said:
Is it possible for the US and EU nations to squeeze Russia so hard that the everyday people in Russia feel economic and daily life pain? Would it force more people protesting and lead to actual civil unrest that would force Putin to rethink things?
Or what else can be done short of military action against targets inside Russia?
I'll add: the odds that everyday people in Russian have a chance to force Putin to rethink things ended 48 hours ago. And it took ~70 years of economic pain under a brutal government the last time around---without China as an economic powerhouse.
What a dumb @ss
Evidence of the stupidity of the Miley Doctrine.BattleGrackle said:
I'm shockedJUST IN - Biden admin presented China with intelligence on Russia's troop buildup in hopes Xi would step in.
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) February 25, 2022
Chinese officials rebuffed the U.S. and apparently shared the information with Moscow.https://t.co/VYLWCNGmyP
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ETA: yes, I know this guy is lib whack job.
This Russian war crime got caught on camera. #Ukrainepic.twitter.com/M4XNegFViF
— Grant Stern is boosted! (@grantstern) February 25, 2022
ETA: yes, I know this guy is lib whack job.
Marvin_Zindler said:This Russian war crime got caught on camera. #Ukrainepic.twitter.com/M4XNegFViF
— Grant Stern is boosted! (@grantstern) February 25, 2022
ETA: yes, I know this guy is lib whack job.
Car driver survived.
Italian prime minister Mario Draghi successfully secured a carve out for Italian luxury goods from the EU's package of economic sanctions against Nato, EU dip tells me. 'Apparently selling Gucci loafers to oligarchs is more of a priority than hitting back at Putin,' source adds.
— Joe Barnes (@Barnes_Joe) February 25, 2022
BQ78 said:
I'd say Moldova would be next on the clock to keep them out of Rumania's arms. Another non-NATO former USSR Republic to regain without the west doing any more than they are doing now.
Moldova then Georgia.
Example 4,323,876 of why this is not our problem.TRM said:Italian prime minister Mario Draghi successfully secured a carve out for Italian luxury goods from the EU's package of economic sanctions against Nato, EU dip tells me. 'Apparently selling Gucci loafers to oligarchs is more of a priority than hitting back at Putin,' source adds.
— Joe Barnes (@Barnes_Joe) February 25, 2022
Truck driver that just left our shop in Houston told us he's been hauling military tanks up to Alaska the last few weeks and showed us pictures.
PJYoung said:BQ78 said:
I'd say Moldova would be next on the clock to keep them out of Rumania's arms. Another non-NATO former USSR Republic to regain without the west doing any more than they are doing now.
Moldova then Georgia.
Romanians aren't going to just let that happen
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