Everyone is aware you have no shame. I'm telling you this position is a loser politically.

StandUpforAmerica said:

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ironmanag said:

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No sports
No concerts
No food
No social interaction


Coming soon

No job
No home
No freedom

1930's germany slowly creeping toward 1940's germany

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My company just said that will be required as of 11/1.

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Tell them you can't get it, religious reasons

Ag$08 said:

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Everyone is aware you have no shame. I'm telling you this position is a loser politically.

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The large percentage of unvaccinated are not Republicans. You are ignorant for falling for this false narrative. But you are you and prove it daily.

In a year, after the vast majority of people have been vaccinated and your bull**** excuses for not getting vaccinated don't materialize, you will be remembered as a national embarrassment.

A full 3/4 of the US was already planning on getting the shot as of May. Right in the height of your pearl clutching rhetoric about it being unsafe and untested, 3/4 of the US already saw through your bull***** You're in the extreme minority outside your echo chamber.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/350720/covid-vaccine-reluctant-likely-stay.aspx

Yes, POC are a large unvaccinated group. So are republicans.

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You're going to care a hell of a lot more about being a national embarrassment when this insane position over vaccines loses Republicans the next election. You can demonize "concerned moderates" all you like, but the end result is you lose elections.

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So this is what this forcing people to get a vaccine is all about? The Grand Old Party? **** that.

It's my body. It's my choice. It supersedes party.

No one should be forced to get vaccinated. Dying or suffering so you can brag to strangers on the internet that you'll never get vaccinated is dumb. Spreading misinformation about the vaccine is killing people.

TXAGFAN said:

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Yes, POC are a large unvaccinated group. So are republicans.

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We have evidence for one of those. I'm unaware of any entity tracking registered voter party and vaccination status.

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TXAGFAN said:

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Yes, POC are a large unvaccinated group. So are republicans.

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We have evidence for one of those. I'm unaware of any entity tracking registered voter party and vaccination status.

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There have been studies of red/blue counties using voting results and vaccination stats. Huge shocker - red counties have lower vaccination rates. Same observations at state level. Are you seriously arguing this?

Obviously they are just crossing county lines and getting the vax.

Like baptists going a county over to buy beer.

So are the dead being vaccinated in blue counties? Do they have to vote first?

Ag$08 said:

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No one should be forced to get vaccinated. Dying or suffering so you can brag to strangers on the internet that you'll never get vaccinated is dumb. Spreading misinformation about the vaccine is killing people.

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You absolutely cannot seem to grasp the concept that there are people who have deeply held religious and moral convictions that makes them resist this vaccine. You are unwilling to accept that people are allowed to make a risk based assessment of the disease and the vaccine and choose between the lesser of two evils. For whatever reason, your inability or unwillingness, you just cannot accept the fact that in a free country people should have the right to choose their own healthcare decisions.

To most people this is a real healthcare decision. A real moral and philosophical decision. It's as legitimate as anyone's decision to get it.

If this were a vaccine that was held to the same rigorous testing and long term evaluation protocols, you MIGHT have a small point, but it's not. Instead of being a person who could positively advocate for people to get it, you've dug in so hard you're no different than the people who you continue to mock.

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So are the dead being vaccinated in blue counties? Do they have to vote first?

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salty, I like it. However, dead voters would decrease the vaccination percentage. Unless the docs are in on the stolen election too.

What mainstream religion is antivax? I thought Vatican signed off on it and they would be the usual holdouts. Serious question.

As has been explained to you, repeatedly. And shown to you repeatedly. And you have ignored, repeatedly. This vaccine has been tested extensively. No safety checks were skipped. It has been shown to be effective in both lab and real world studies.

Your excuses to avoid the vaccine as well as whatever imagined principles you're standing on is a pile of bs. In a year, it'll be even more clear than it is now.

Ag$08 said:

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As has been explained to you, repeatedly. And shown to you repeatedly. And you have ignored, repeatedly. This vaccine has been tested extensively. No safety checks were skipped. It has been shown to be effective in both lab and real world studies.

Your excuses to avoid the vaccine as well as whatever imagined principles you're standing on is a pile of bs. In a year, it'll be even more clear than it is now.

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That's great! How about long term side effects. Say 5-10 years from initial injection.

There is no known mechanism that would cause a side effect 5-10 years down the line. If your standard for safety requires knowing the future while ignoring the known laws of physics and nature, then you're going to have a hard time walking out the door.

How do you know the door isn't going to come off the hinge and crush you to death?

Ag$08 said:

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There is no known mechanism that would cause a side effect 5-10 years down the line. If your standard for safety requires knowing the future while ignoring the known laws of physics and nature, then you're going to have a hard time walking out the door.

How do you know the door isn't going to come off the hinge and crush you to death?

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Look at how many drugs passed full scrutiny of the FDA and were later recalled.
And your first sentence is key, " no known mechanism". Time exposes or verifies any unforeseen problems and this vaccine hasVERY limited time of use.

Ag$08 said:

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In a year, after the vast majority of people have been vaccinated and your bull**** excuses for not getting vaccinated don't materialize, you will be remembered as a national embarrassment.

A full 3/4 of the US was already planning on getting the shot as of May. Right in the height of your pearl clutching rhetoric about it being unsafe and untested, 3/4 of the US already saw through your bull***** You're in the extreme minority outside your echo chamber.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/350720/covid-vaccine-reluctant-likely-stay.aspx

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Get bent,clone.

The other half of that comment was the known laws of physics and biology. The delivery mechanism for this vaccine has been studied for decades. It's well understood.

The CDC says they have no data on the interaction of this vaccine with people that have autoimmune disorders like I have. No data. No thanks.

There are people with legitimate medical reasons not to get any vaccine. Your doctor is of course best to determine that.

I would venture to guess that 99% of the most vocal anti-Vaxxers do not have a medical reason. 100% of them spreading disinformation found on whatever crevice of the internet they pulled it from don't have a legitimate reason to do it.

Ag$08 said:

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There are people with legitimate medical reasons not to get any vaccine. Your doctor is of course best to determine that.

I would venture to guess that 99% of the most vocal anti-Vaxxers do not have a medical reason. 100% of them spreading disinformation found on whatever crevice of the internet they pulled it from don't have a legitimate reason to do it.

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Meh. Already had Covid. No vaccine for me!

CCP Joe Veggie said:

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For those that don't do history, the Jews were not gassed on day 1.

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Oh, I love that. I've tried to impress this fact on so many people and this is such a succinct package that can be wielded so many different ways. I'm unashamedly stealing this.

What do you consider disinformation?

Is this disinformation?
https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/covid-19-natural-immunity-compared-to-vaccine-induced-immunity-the-definitive-summary/

Disinformation is suppressing news which would allow the populace to make informed decisions.

Ag$08 said:

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There are people with legitimate medical reasons not to get any vaccine. Your doctor is of course best to determine that.

I would venture to guess that 99% of the most vocal anti-Vaxxers do not have a medical reason. 100% of them spreading disinformation found on whatever crevice of the internet they pulled it from don't have a legitimate reason to do it.

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Proof of this or is 100% just a complete lie. Seems easy to disregard facts and figures if all of them are "disinformation".

My statement means that there is never a good reason to lie to people. There's no justification for openly lying.

Ag$08 said:

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My statement means that there is never a good reason to lie to people. There's no justification for openly lying.

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Have you told that to the DNC and the puppet masters for the biden administration*

Once again, I've never voted for a Democrat and don't plan on starting now. Tying your opinion on vaccination to your political affiliation is weak minded.

Ag$08 said:

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My statement means that there is never a good reason to lie to people. There's no justification for openly lying.

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Your statement reads more like anything that doesn't come from a "main stream" source can't be trusted and is therefore disinformation. Irony being that no actual criticism is allowed on any main stream source so your standard is impossible.

What about suppressing peer-reviewed studies that undermine the narrative?