Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread

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Biden calls on commercial aircraft to commandeer their aircraft in order to free up military aircraft. Okay, I can live those planes being used to ferry people from Doha to relieve pressure there but to not allow chartered flights in to pick up the dogs? Their charter, they can pick up the dogs and do a 30 minute turn around time. Hell, Southwest pilots do that crap daily. Fly in hot. Hot to the ramp. Un-azz the plane, re-azz the plane, pull away from the gate and run hot to that flight line. Wheels down to wheels up in 30-45.

Dogs with collars are not strays. And their new Chinese overlords have no problem eating them. Nor will starving Afghans very soon.
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Kaggiehawg said:

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Dogs with collars are not strays. . . . . . .
Good catch, thank you.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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aggiehawg said:

Biden calls on commercial aircraft to commandeer their aircraft in order to free up military aircraft. Okay, I can live those planes being used to ferry people from Doha to relieve pressure there but to not allow chartered flights in to pick up the dogs? Their charter, they can pick up the dogs and do a 30 minute turn around time. Hell, Southwest pilots do that crap daily. Fly in hot. Hot to the ramp. Un-azz the plane, re-azz the plane, pull away from the gate and run hot to that flight line. Wheels down to wheels up in 30-45.

Dogs with collars are not strays. And their new Chinese overlords have no problem eating them. Nor will starving Afghans very soon.
Don't ever look into the history of America's treatment of working dogs then.

This is just in keeping with the norm...
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Different sensitivities then. We also ate horse meat in WWI.

Still sucks.
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TChaney said:



I'm about 99% sure that's a Soviet Hind Helicopter

Five main rotor blades, three tail rotor blades, three weapons pylons on wingtips

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24

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CanyonAg77 said:

TChaney said:



I'm about 99% sure that's a Soviet Hind Helicopter


Drive it like ya stole it.
aTm '99
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Quote:

Drive it like ya stole it.
Tow it like you stole it.
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AlaskanAg99 said:

CanyonAg77 said:

TChaney said:



I'm about 99% sure that's a Soviet Hind Helicopter


Drive it like ya stole it.
Someone needs to learn about load distribution and sway control.
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CanyonAg77 said:

Quote:

Drive it like ya stole it.
Tow it like you stole it.


Don't be gentle, it's a rental.
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textar4404 said:

AlaskanAg99 said:

CanyonAg77 said:

TChaney said:



I'm about 99% sure that's a Soviet Hind Helicopter


Drive it like ya stole it.
Someone needs to learn about load distribution and sway control.


These people can't read.
aTm '99
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Someone should tell them they can't push start those like you can a stick shift, Toyota pickup!
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Question about the dogs. Why? It has to be heartbreaking for their handlers to leave them behind so I would guess they had to?
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coupland boy said:

Question about the dogs. Why? It has to be heartbreaking for their handlers to leave them behind so I would guess they had to?
There are varying reports and misinformation floating around.
The problem is which one is true.

Most prominent are
Dogs belong to 3rd party contractors
Dogs belong to animal rescue charity
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TChaney said:




Does he not know where is heart is? That's about the laziest hand over your heart that I have seen.
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he was moving it while he was shifting his arms and checking his watch. that still is supposed to show him checking his watch.
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I have seen one where his hand is there and hers is on her clavicle. Average them out and it was about where most people put their hand.
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TChaney said:




That photo just guts me. I've had two close friends widowed when we were all in our mid-twenties, one in Iraq and one in Afghanistan, and the aftermath of that is just indescribable. But both of them at least believed at the time, to some extent, that there was a greater purpose at play. A reason for their husbands to be in that place at that time. This is just To call it senseless is an absurd understatement. It could have so easily been avoided and I can't imagine how much more that adds to the grief of these families.

Yesterday a friend shared this encounter he had with one of the Marines who was escorting one of the fallen home. It's a really touching story. And a reminder that there are many young men and women who are have a tough road ahead as they try to cope with what they went through, most likely while also feeling that they were betrayed by being put into an impossible situation.

https://www.facebook.com/100015685773919/posts/1115206809012168/?d=n
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RED BADGE OF COURAGE

To err is human, to forgive is divine
To err is human, to forgive is divine
Ain't either Marine Corps policy, neither's crying

My hide's been shot at under a middle eastern sun
My hide's been shot at under a middle eastern sun
I got a red badge of courage, ain't even 21

It's my last tour of duty boys I'm going back to the USA
It's my last tour of duty boys I'm going back to the USA
I'll go down to VFW every Memorial day

What do I say to these ghosts that keep coming round again?
What do I say to these ghosts that keep coming round again?
We was just kids doing the dirty work for the failures of old men

Ray Wiley Hubbard
FJB
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Celebrating the end of the 20-year occupation in Afghanistan, Afghans held a demonstration with coffins wrapped in the flag of France, the USA and the British.
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TChaney said:




Celebrating the end of the 20-year occupation in Afghanistan, Afghans held a demonstration with coffins wrapped in the flag of France, the USA and the British.
Could be worse. Those could be filled with beheaded citizens from each of those countries. Maybe a dress rehearsal, though.
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Indirectly related.
I saw quite a few predictions about China and Taiwan after what we saw in Afghanistan.
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TChaney said:




Ugh.
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That lady is crazy
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TChaney said:






Probably part of the quid pro quo with the taliban. You give us protection to leave, we will take the western journos with us.

Some of her other tweets indicate long time western journos were forced to evac while some al Jazeera ones were not.

She's probably in for a world of hurt now
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Biden admin doesn't want the videos on TV so I'm sure there was agreement on getting western journalists out of the country.
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Does she have some kind of deathwish? I can't think of a whole lot of other reasons for her to go to Kabul.
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All this technology available just seems weird in context. Deported by force from a war torn country in disarray. Use Google Maps to drive back with a construction notice on the map.

Tweeting from same.

Who's maintaining all of that internet infrastructure? Why wasn't it ever targeted/
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cecil77 said:

All this technology available just seems weird in context. Deported by force from a war torn country in disarray. Use Google Maps to drive back with a construction notice on the map.

Tweeting from same.

Who's maintaining all of that internet infrastructure? Why wasn't it ever targeted/



And then we had alleged video of Taliban smashing people's cell phones with rocks. Video was probably taken with... A cellphone.
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Wonder of Biden had a contingency for this
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