Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread

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TChaney said:


Wow. At 0:23, you see an afghan child, probably no older than 9 years old, embracing a coalition soldier for comfort.

I just...that's a lot. For both parties.

Where are her parents? Are they alive? So heartbreaking.
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David Fox, who runs a marketing company in Kabul, said he received an email from the U.S. Embassy's consular services department that included the document, meant to help U.S. citizens and Afghan citizens eligible for Special Immigrant Visas (SIVs) to leave the country.

Fox noted that the document looks like a U.S. visa, except it had no name, serial number, or barcode on it.
Clearly, the Biden administration didn't consider the most obvious result of such a foolish move.

"And what do you think happened when these people received a document like this that has no name? Of course, they printed out a thousand copies," Fox said. "You have tens of thousands of Afghans who now have this kind of ridiculous, bogus document that the State Department created."
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Freakin' State Department!!
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Great editors note at the bottom of the article. Fitting.
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If the Taliban have taken hold of all this military equipment and uniforms, is there not mass chaos happening on who is/isn't actually US military? Am I correctly remembering all of the pictures of Taliban wearing our gear?
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tlepoC said:

If the Taliban have taken hold of all this military equipment and uniforms, is there not mass chaos happening on who is/isn't actually US military? Am I correctly remembering all of the pictures of Taliban wearing our gear?

You're not wrong. They haven't tried infil tactics yet, but it's only a matter of time before it happens.
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aggiehawg said:

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David Fox, who runs a marketing company in Kabul, said he received an email from the U.S. Embassy's consular services department that included the document, meant to help U.S. citizens and Afghan citizens eligible for Special Immigrant Visas (SIVs) to leave the country.

Fox noted that the document looks like a U.S. visa, except it had no name, serial number, or barcode on it.
Clearly, the Biden administration didn't consider the most obvious result of such a foolish move.

"And what do you think happened when these people received a document like this that has no name? Of course, they printed out a thousand copies," Fox said. "You have tens of thousands of Afghans who now have this kind of ridiculous, bogus document that the State Department created."
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Freakin' State Department!!
The problem is that 95% of the American people don't have a clue that this is what happened/is happening. They think it is about "we have to save our interpreters" etc.
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At the risk of detailing, what exactly does someone market in one of the poorest countries in the world?
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Afghan Army General Ahmadzai.



At the airport.



Looks like the same guy to me.
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aggiehawg said:

Afghan Army General Ahmadzai.



At the airport.



Looks like the same guy to me.
He looks handcuffed.
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His mother should have varied his sleeping position a bit more
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Parade rest.

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aggiehawg said:

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Freakin' State Department!!
Maliciously unethical incompetent State Department.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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Burdizzo said:

At the risk of detailing, what exactly does someone market in one of the poorest countries in the world?
With all of that US cash sloshing around probably a lot of NGO and then government outreach PR crappola.
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New General for the afternoon DOD briefing.

Stephen Lyons US Transportation Command.
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37,000 evacuated so far by US, plus additional thousands by other nations. STATS
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aggiehawg said:

New General for the afternoon DOD briefing.

Stephen Lyons US Transportation Command.


Wow, I wonder if Adm Mewbourne will make it up at some point. He is the deputy commander of transcom. Have met him several times.
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Michael Yon on Afghanistan on Monday afternoon:

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Kabul Situation Collapsing: when the moon sets, watch out.

Taliban are doing a chagha. Pasthun always do this during times like this. A chagha is a cultural method of fighting. Like a shout out. Or come as you are. In Mindanao they call it a pintakasi (cock fight). Everyone just runs to the fight with or without weapons and figures out what to do when they show up.

Chagha are very difficult to overcome unless you can run fast or reinforce.

They will whip us with chagha unless we go heavy firepower and reinforcements, which we are not doing. Taliban have the initiative.

Watch as the moon gets black. Closer to new moon. They likely go for us on a dark moon.

Things are becoming simpler now. All the big analysis will come down to this. Our habits and president versus the Pashtun way. They will not negotiate when they are in position of power. The power and initiative is in their hands.

When the moon sets, watch out.

Source.
Note: Michael Yon is a combat news reporter. He spent a lot of time covering OEF, OIF operations.
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I am hearing you cannot enter any of the gates at the airport and several people have died trying to climb over. Biden is holding our troops back from going outside the airport and Americans are being rescued by other countries. They are also not giving any support to contract companies so they are using their own intel sources or getting help from nations like the UK.
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"I am hearing"

Where? From whom?
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Customer that builds equipment for the military. They told me not to say for what company they work for.
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Raggity has set the narrative when we fully leave 8/31, any American left is because they didn't want to leave.

Not that they couldn't get to the airport or were too scared to. The US didn't send anyone out while 3 other nations with smaller forces were.
aTm '99
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AlaskanAg99 said:

Raggity has set the narrative when we fully leave 8/31, any American left is because they didn't want to leave.

Not that they couldn't get to the airport or were too scared to. The US didn't send anyone out while 3 other nations with smaller forces were.
Correction; we actually asked the Brits to stop helping their/our citizens because it was making us look bad.

The single most disgraceful chapter in US foreign policy since...I dunno, when FDR didn't care about concentration camps? Trail of tears?
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sanangelo said:

Michael Yon on Afghanistan on Monday afternoon:

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Kabul Situation Collapsing: when the moon sets, watch out.

Taliban are doing a chagha. Pasthun always do this during times like this. A chagha is a cultural method of fighting. Like a shout out. Or come as you are. In Mindanao they call it a pintakasi (cock fight). Everyone just runs to the fight with or without weapons and figures out what to do when they show up.

Chagha are very difficult to overcome unless you can run fast or reinforce.

They will whip us with chagha unless we go heavy firepower and reinforcements, which we are not doing. Taliban have the initiative.

Watch as the moon gets black. Closer to new moon. They likely go for us on a dark moon.

Things are becoming simpler now. All the big analysis will come down to this. Our habits and president versus the Pashtun way. They will not negotiate when they are in position of power. The power and initiative is in their hands.

When the moon sets, watch out.

Source.
Note: Michael Yon is a combat news reporter. He spent a lot of time covering OEF, OIF operations.
Well that sounds very ominous. This is going to be a slaughter, sounds like.
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I wouldn't bet against the usmc nor the 82nd airborne.
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Agthatbuilds said:

I wouldn't bet against the usmc nor the 82nd airborne.
But I would bet against the politicians that are dictating the action/inaction
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Agthatbuilds said:

I wouldn't bet against the usmc nor the 82nd airborne.
I'm not betting against them, just hoping they will be released to do what they are designed to do and not held back by politicians.
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Agthatbuilds said:

I wouldn't bet against the usmc nor the 82nd airborne.
Don't bet against, yes, but totally unnecessary given the what should have been done and when.
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Agthatbuilds said:

I wouldn't bet against the usmc nor the 82nd airborne.

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aggiehawg said:

oldyella said:

BLKWF12 is heading towards Afghanistan, looks like some JSOC operations will be occurring tonight somewhere in Afghanistan.
We have been conducting overflights the entire time. Using communication birds to monitor and direct.

That data point alone is insufficient evidence of anything in particular.
ARSON55 is on approach - Lockheed MC-130J Commando II.

"The MC-130J, which became operational in 2011, is the new-production variant that is replacing the other special operations MC-130s. As of May 2016, the Air Force has taken delivery of 33 of the planned 37 -J models."
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ABATTBQ87 said:

Agthatbuilds said:

I wouldn't bet against the usmc nor the 82nd airborne.


Great movie. Highly recommend.
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