UPDATE: The Taliban have issued a red line to Joe Biden: Complete the evacuations by August 31 or face "consequences."
— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) August 23, 2021
UPDATE: The Taliban have issued a red line to Joe Biden: Complete the evacuations by August 31 or face "consequences."
— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) August 23, 2021
aggiedata said:
Media still carries the water. Insane how far we have come to no credible news outlet. Jennifer Rubin is infuriating. Wake up!!The White House edited transcripts with Macron, Germany called it the worst debacle in the history of NATO and Great Britain couldn't get him on the phone for 36 hours and held him in contempt but you're playing for an audience of one and we all know who that is. https://t.co/pEWTfvydol
— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) August 22, 2021
.dmart90 said:aggiedata said:
Media still carries the water. Insane how far we have come to no credible news outlet. Jennifer Rubin is infuriating. Wake up!!The White House edited transcripts with Macron, Germany called it the worst debacle in the history of NATO and Great Britain couldn't get him on the phone for 36 hours and held him in contempt but you're playing for an audience of one and we all know who that is. https://t.co/pEWTfvydol
— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) August 22, 2021
Biden put together a coalition? Hahahahahaha ha!
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THE TALIBAN'S RED LINE
Joe Biden's new Taliban friends do not appear to be in an accommodating frame of mind. They are intent on celebrating the twentieth anniversary of 9/11 in their own style. They therefore want the United States to have completed its exit by the date certain of August 31. According to this BBC update this morning:And they don't want to take any chance the materiel we left behind falls back into American hands.Quote:
The Taliban will not extend the 31 August deadline for the current evacuation mission, a spokesman has said.
The 31st was a red line, Suhail Shaheen said. He said President Biden had said troops would be out by that date, and extending it meant extending Afghanistan's occupation. He warned of consequences if that were to change.
UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson had been expected to use an emergency G7 meeting on Tuesday to ask President Biden to delay the US troop withdrawal to allow more time for evacuations from Kabul airport.
Thousands of Afghans and foreign nationals are still scrambling to get on flights out of the country.
Shaheen's Twitter feed, by the way, is accessible here. President Trump is still sidelined from the platform. Shaheen self-identifies as "Member of Negotiations Team and Polit. Office Spokesman for International Media."
Good idea https://t.co/pn6xcWTtc8
— Gen Michael Hayden (@GenMhayden) August 22, 2021
We have been conducting overflights the entire time. Using communication birds to monitor and direct.oldyella said:
BLKWF12 is heading towards Afghanistan, looks like some JSOC operations will be occurring tonight somewhere in Afghanistan.
W said:
where is the rest of the 82nd Airborne at the moment?
may need them on the 31st
aggiehawg said:Good idea https://t.co/pn6xcWTtc8
— Gen Michael Hayden (@GenMhayden) August 22, 2021
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In November 2018, Hayden was hospitalized after suffering a stroke; he suffers from aphasia as a result.
No way to know unless he does a TV interview.CanyonAg77 said:
The question is whether he has the coordination and motor skills necessary to be making these @$$hole tweets, after the stroke.
Heck, does he even have the mental facilities?
I am pretty much of a jerk online at times, but if my abilities were impaired by a stroke, would I waste big chunks of time on mean tweets?
What have we had, what, all of 3 or 6 service members die from covid? But, whatever, that's the big news.aggiehawg said:
Kirby is talking about ordering the military to get covid shots since FDA approval. He doesn't say a word about A-stan. Just opens it up for questions.
I understand that but wouldn't a press release accomplish the same thing without using this presser during a crisis was my point.nortex97 said:What have we had, what, all of 3 or 6 service members die from covid? But, whatever, that's the big news.aggiehawg said:
Kirby is talking about ordering the military to get covid shots since FDA approval. He doesn't say a word about A-stan. Just opens it up for questions.
The military requires members to get all kinds of vaccinations, and more crap to deploy. That shouldn't be a big deal at all, you are functionally physically the property of the US government while in service.
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The mindset of the generals was revealed in the New York Times spin on the Fall of Kabul, "Miscue After Miscue, U.S. Exit Plan Unravels."
Marx-reading Milley and his team of Tall Ticket Punchers with their Boards of Medals on their chests knew surrendering the country would lead to a repeat of the Fall of Saigon. They thought the Afghan soldiers would be willing to die for our country in retreat, just like the Vietnamese did.
The story began, "The nation's top national security officials assembled at the Pentagon early on April 24 for a secret meeting to plan the final withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan. It was two weeks after President Biden had announced the exit over the objection of his generals, but now they were carrying out his orders.
"In a secure room in the building's extreme basement, two floors below ground level, Defense Secretary
Lloyd J. Austin III and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met with top White House and intelligence officials. Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken joined by video conference. After four hours, two things were clear.
"First, Pentagon officials said they could pull out the remaining 3,500 American troops, almost all deployed at Bagram Air Base, by July 4 two months earlier than the Sept. 11 deadline Mr. Biden had set. The plan would mean closing the airfield that was the American military hub in Afghanistan, but Defense Department officials did not want a dwindling, vulnerable force and the risks of service members dying in a war declared lost.
"Second, State Department officials said they would keep the American Embassy open, with more than 1,400 remaining Americans protected by 650 Marines and soldiers. An intelligence assessment presented at the meeting estimated that Afghan forces could hold off the Taliban for one to two years.
There was brief talk of an emergency evacuation plan helicopters would ferry Americans to the civilian airport in Kabul, the capital but no one raised, let alone imagined, what the United States would do if the Taliban gained control of access to that airport, the only safe way in and out of the country once Bagram closed.
"The plan was a good one, the group concluded.
"Four months later, the plan is in shambles as Mr. Biden struggles to explain how a withdrawal most Americans supported went so badly wrong in its execution. On Friday, as scenes of continuing chaos and suffering at the airport were broadcast around the world, Mr. Biden went so far as to say that 'I cannot promise what the final outcome will be, or what it will be that it will be without risk of loss.'"
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The plan was a good one, the group concluded.
Wrong Way Corrigan thought he had a good plan, too.
So Milley and the rest thought after we left in September, our Afghanistan allies would be our fall guys, just like the South Vietnamese were a half-century ago.
Milley was the expert because 41 years ago at Princeton, he wrote a 185-page-long senior thesis titled "A Critical Analysis of Revolutionary Guerrilla Organization in Theory and Practice."
Rule of thumb going forward: Never let the State Department dictate military operations.sicandtiredTXN said:
Every press conference they are asked for a breakdown of the numbers they claim for how many are US Citizens and every press conference they show up without the breakdown. Kirby is a complete buffoon, they know they are going to be asked and they are purposely not divulging that breakdown.
U know there’s no way they can #spin it for him! #America deserves to know the #truth! #Bidenlied #ClownInChief #CowardInChief #afghanistan #KabulAiport #Kabul #Taliban pic.twitter.com/5AkYbzjnEJ
— Sn00pster (@sn00pdad) August 23, 2021
Fire has broken out at Kabul airport pic.twitter.com/nOXNPRUOtr
— Muslim Shirzad (@MuslimShirzad) August 23, 2021
BREAKING - Footage shows fire broke out at Kabul airport in Afghanistan amid evacuations. pic.twitter.com/g8aGmVDbS2
— Insider Paper (@TheInsiderPaper) August 23, 2021
#BigUpdate: 🚨 #Pakistani National ID Cards recovered from a #Talibani, who was shot yesterday, after #NorthernAlliance Resistance Forces raided Kapisa.#Panjshir #PanjshirValley #Panjsher #TalibaniPakistanExposed #Afghanistan #Kabul pic.twitter.com/rAFwq2nPKo
— Debashish Sarkar 🇮🇳 (@DebashishHiTs) August 23, 2021
Pottery Barn rules strikes again.GCRanger said:
Are we the only country that gave Afghans citizenship and visas for helping out over the last 20 years? We appear to be way to generous in handing these out.
General M Hayden has raised the bar on being a total scum sucking POS.aggiehawg said:Good idea https://t.co/pn6xcWTtc8
— Gen Michael Hayden (@GenMhayden) August 22, 2021
We emailed a pre-populated form for them to use, and forward to anyone they knew, for a Special Immigration Visa, with the same visa number on each, for anyone who gets their hands on a paper or electronic copy, yes.GCRanger said:
Are we the only country that gave Afghans citizenship and visas for helping out over the last 20 years? We appear to be way to generous in handing these out.
To the left in the Dem party (but I repeat myself), Vietnam was a win.aggiehawg said:Rule of thumb going forward: Never let the State Department dictate military operations.sicandtiredTXN said:
Every press conference they are asked for a breakdown of the numbers they claim for how many are US Citizens and every press conference they show up without the breakdown. Kirby is a complete buffoon, they know they are going to be asked and they are purposely not divulging that breakdown.
One would have thought we learned that after Vietnam.
I would prefer a court martialnortex97 said:
On the planning for the surrender of Kabul/Afghanistan to the Taliban;Quote:
The mindset of the generals was revealed in the New York Times spin on the Fall of Kabul, "Miscue After Miscue, U.S. Exit Plan Unravels."
Marx-reading Milley and his team of Tall Ticket Punchers with their Boards of Medals on their chests knew surrendering the country would lead to a repeat of the Fall of Saigon. They thought the Afghan soldiers would be willing to die for our country in retreat, just like the Vietnamese did.
The story began, "The nation's top national security officials assembled at the Pentagon early on April 24 for a secret meeting to plan the final withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan. It was two weeks after President Biden had announced the exit over the objection of his generals, but now they were carrying out his orders.
"In a secure room in the building's extreme basement, two floors below ground level, Defense Secretary
Lloyd J. Austin III and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met with top White House and intelligence officials. Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken joined by video conference. After four hours, two things were clear.
"First, Pentagon officials said they could pull out the remaining 3,500 American troops, almost all deployed at Bagram Air Base, by July 4 two months earlier than the Sept. 11 deadline Mr. Biden had set. The plan would mean closing the airfield that was the American military hub in Afghanistan, but Defense Department officials did not want a dwindling, vulnerable force and the risks of service members dying in a war declared lost.
"Second, State Department officials said they would keep the American Embassy open, with more than 1,400 remaining Americans protected by 650 Marines and soldiers. An intelligence assessment presented at the meeting estimated that Afghan forces could hold off the Taliban for one to two years.
There was brief talk of an emergency evacuation plan helicopters would ferry Americans to the civilian airport in Kabul, the capital but no one raised, let alone imagined, what the United States would do if the Taliban gained control of access to that airport, the only safe way in and out of the country once Bagram closed.
"The plan was a good one, the group concluded.
"Four months later, the plan is in shambles as Mr. Biden struggles to explain how a withdrawal most Americans supported went so badly wrong in its execution. On Friday, as scenes of continuing chaos and suffering at the airport were broadcast around the world, Mr. Biden went so far as to say that 'I cannot promise what the final outcome will be, or what it will be that it will be without risk of loss.'"
***
The plan was a good one, the group concluded.
Wrong Way Corrigan thought he had a good plan, too.
So Milley and the rest thought after we left in September, our Afghanistan allies would be our fall guys, just like the South Vietnamese were a half-century ago.
Milley was the expert because 41 years ago at Princeton, he wrote a 185-page-long senior thesis titled "A Critical Analysis of Revolutionary Guerrilla Organization in Theory and Practice."
Milley has to be fired.