Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread

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denied said:

Yukon Cornelius said:





As soon as we are done getting out; I would tell the Taliban that we are going to be aerially demo-ing assets like MRAPs and uparmored HMMWVs.
Why tell them? Just do it.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Ooopps.




We've been negotiating with the Taliban in Doha. That's been very well reported.
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Captain Positivity said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

Ooopps.




We've been negotiating with the Taliban in Doha. That's been very well reported.
Yes. But it wasn't reported we had a CIA nest there with a picture of the station chief
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Seabreeze said:





I might have missed this being identified correctly by someone else, but this is a US gun club putting on a hell of a show from a couple years ago. Neither current, nor of an international conflict.
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TChaney said:



I find this picture incredibly powerful. The facial expression, the flag wrapped up, the haste with which it was taken (and thus fuzzy) all perfectly reflects how poorly this was planned and executed.
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TAMU1990 said:

denied said:

Yukon Cornelius said:





As soon as we are done getting out; I would tell the Taliban that we are going to be aerially demo-ing assets like MRAPs and uparmored HMMWVs.
Why tell them? Just do it.


Sometimes you announce your intentions to elicit a response. In this case; do they drive them around, leave them parked, try to hide them, or try to get them to Iran?
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Boeing C-17A Globemaster just took off from Kabul.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Ooopps.




I guess US government "operate in Qatar" like CIA I guess...because Al Udied USAF base is pretty common knowledge and not very hidden
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USAF Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker headed to Kabul.

Good sign the airport is still functioning at least for Americans
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gator2 said:

Yes. Helos operate at low altitude making those runs all over. Not ideal but less problematic than big aircraft that can't maneuver and are in takeoff/landing phases.


Thanks Gator...trust me I am tracking
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digital_ag said:

TChaney said:



I find this picture incredibly powerful. The facial expression, the flag wrapped up, the haste with which it was taken (and thus fuzzy) all perfectly reflects how poorly this was planned and executed.
I was channel surfing this morning to see which (if any) cable networks had reporters on the ground in Kabul.

Ironically, CNN had one, a gal, who had been in country for several years. She reported that the transport of the embassy personnel and Afghan terps was just beginning in earnest before the Taliban got to the outskirts of Kabul. IOW, they were caught flat-footed and had to scramble.
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where is the photo this mentions? Why post a screenshot of a tweet?
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Iran and Russia are in interesting positions here. Neither one really benefits from a Sunni terrorist-harboring Afghanistan now in possession of advanced weaponry. Iran has taken in millions of Afghan refugees during the war and are now setting up camps along the border. Al Jazeera reported that Afghan nationals are protesting in front of the UN building in Tehran to protest the Taliban takeover.

There's no doubt that both are happy to see the US leave and worked behind the scenes in an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario, but now they have other issues to deal with.
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Because things get deleted... it's the only photo of Biden during this situation
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Sea Speed said:

where is the photo this mentions? Why post a screenshot of a tweet?


Had to look it up myself.



CIA and Doha Station are separate feeds. Not sure I'm buying this one.
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Apparently the United States personnel in charge of operations in Afghanistan personally met with the Taliban there. It's not exactly a secret we have people in Qatar. It is where all the meetings with the Taliban have taken place over the last few years. Of course if we are meeting someone somewhere, we are going to have intelligence apparatus is in place in that location. What was unclear based on that tweet was whether he was actually talking to secret CIA or just state department people/military who were in Doha meeting lTaliban. More than likely that's the latter.

I sincerely doubt the President of the United States is actually speaking directly to a CIA station chief in any meeting.
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cisgenderedAggie said:

Sea Speed said:

where is the photo this mentions? Why post a screenshot of a tweet?


Had to look it up myself.



CIA and Doha Station are separate feeds. Not sure I'm buying this one.
Buying what?
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The claim in the other tweet image that some unknown CIA operation got blown by a photo op
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Texas A&M Qatar.

I'm not sure why anyone should be surprised that we have assets there.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/15/taliban-continues-advances-captures-key-city-of-jalalabad

Al Jazeera is giving frequent updates here.
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Captain Positivity said:

Apparently the United States personnel in charge of operations in Afghanistan personally met with the Taliban there. It's not exactly a secret we have people in Qatar. It is where all the meetings with the Taliban have taken place over the last few years. Of course if we are meeting someone somewhere, we are going to have intelligence apparatus is in place in that location. What was unclear based on that tweet was whether he was actually talking to secret CIA or just state department people/military who were in Doha meeting lTaliban. More than likely that's the latter.

I sincerely doubt the President of the United States is actually speaking directly to a CIA station chief in any meeting.


I saw something in another thread saying it was Commander, CENTCOM
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US sending extra 1000 troops in, per Al Jazeera. Now it will total 6000. France, Spain, Germany, UK, others also there.
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Would make sense, as he's the one actually meeting with the Taliban.
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Has anyone kept track, or is there a good source as to how many US citizens were in Afghanistan as of this month? Have to think a lot of nonessential personnel were already out of the country. Based on the rough estimation of flights in and out, we've probably had the capacity to evacuate several thousand people so far in the last 24 hours.
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Just my OCD working overtime.......again.

Why is Harris in a room with a window that has clear view of her monitor for a secure call.

Also, why does the laptop Biden is using that is hooked into the docking station have a green sticker? Green stickers are for unclassified system use only.

Worked many years in that world and seeing this level of likely no-no's just validated it is amateur hour.




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Because it was probably just a photo op.
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gator2 said:

Former AF pilot here who has been in/out of Kabul.
Weight will be a factor in taking off. Hi pressure altitudes with surrounding mountains. It's no joke getting in and out of there. May not be able to keep packing people in as a result.


The mission aircraft are almost certainly C-17's, and I'm sure they're tankering fuel and just planning tech stops on their way back out. They shouldn't be anywhere near overload, and will likely bulk out before they max out. The C-17 is a robust, well powered and highly capable platform.
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Few days....
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Captain Positivity said:

Apparently the United States personnel in charge of operations in Afghanistan personally met with the Taliban there. It's not exactly a secret we have people in Qatar. It is where all the meetings with the Taliban have taken place over the last few years. Of course if we are meeting someone somewhere, we are going to have intelligence apparatus is in place in that location. What was unclear based on that tweet was whether he was actually talking to secret CIA or just state department people/military who were in Doha meeting lTaliban. More than likely that's the latter.

I sincerely doubt the President of the United States is actually speaking directly to a CIA station chief in any meeting.
Under the current circumstances...I sincerely don't.
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte
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Captain Positivity said:

Because it was probably just a photo op.
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Will try to meet half way on photo op - Harris and window shot - possibly. A room that is used to brief security team would not allow unclass laptops access to the docking station/classified system. Does not work that way.
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It's sounds like they are chanting DEath to America
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