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If this was an unarmed, pink haired BLM liberal, there would be some different tunes being sung.

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I agree, you and all the leftist would be calling for the cop to be jailed at the very least. Glad you can admit that.

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I am not a leftist and think protestors should have been shot when getting violent

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Don't get why conservatives bother with this woman. She had no business being there just like all of the other rioters on January 6th. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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So shooting unarmed women is cool in your book ? He's scum karma got something for him

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Absolutely. She was climbing through a broken window in a barricade a door in the freaking US capital. It doesn't matter if she was armed or not. If someone is breaking into my house, man or woman, armed or unarmed, they are getting shot. End of story.
In no way, are her actions that day defendable.

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Local library is a gvt building should i be shot if i break in unarmed ?

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If you're breaking in under the exact same circumstances as the head shot girl, don't be surprised if someone telling/yelling at you with a gun pointed at you, to stop or backaway, like is obvious in the video clip, head shots you too.

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Sad.

This is why a peaceful divorce will never occur in this country. People like this poster would gleefully watch and cheer as the government put a bullet in your head.

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Only if you're breaking the law and the law is telling you to stop and you're not stopping.

Solid ****ing math skills. I'm sure they'll fork over a full refund.

CNN+ would have taken it.

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Solid ****ing math skills. I'm sure they'll fork over a full refund.

CNN+ would have taken it.

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It tickles me that you cancelled and thought anyone noticed. This is a great site and mods work hard. I've talked to them and yeah they miss stuff. They're humans. Don't be rude.

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Solid ****ing math skills. I'm sure they'll fork over a full refund.

CNN+ would have taken it.

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It tickles me that you cancelled and thought anyone noticed. This is a great site and mods work hard. I've talked to them and yeah they miss stuff. They're humans. Don't be rude.

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Don't be rude? Wanna re-read your messages 2 to me? Snark and snark.

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Don't get why conservatives bother with this woman. She had no business being there just like all of the other rioters on January 6th. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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So shooting unarmed women is cool in your book ? He's scum karma got something for him

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Absolutely. She was climbing through a broken window in a barricade a door in the freaking US capital. It doesn't matter if she was armed or not. If someone is breaking into my house, man or woman, armed or unarmed, they are getting shot. End of story.
In no way, are her actions that day defendable.

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Local library is a gvt building should i be shot if i break in unarmed ?

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If you're breaking in under the exact same circumstances as the head shot girl, don't be surprised if someone telling/yelling at you with a gun pointed at you, to stop or backaway, like is obvious in the video clip, head shots you too.

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Sad.

This is why a peaceful divorce will never occur in this country. People like this poster would gleefully watch and cheer as the government put a bullet in your head.

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Only if you're breaking the law and the law is telling you to stop and you're not stopping.

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People are all of a sudden not understanding the concept of justification is very interesting. I'm what objective world was that not considered a good shoot. She clearly was in the wrong and he was well within the law of justified force. I get what factors may make some angry, emotional and upset but the law is the law.

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Good thing he didn't hit any of the officers that were right behind her.

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Right? Thank gawd she didn't have a poodle with her. I wonder what those two officers and the other out of control rioter thought who saw the kill.

Once again, the folks were in the building. There was no final area where the officer had to retreat to. He could have holstered his gun and walked on out and no one had to die. It was not Custer's Last Stand.

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She could have complied after several warning and retreated or turned around. She could have not been illegally trying to break through area she was clearly not allowed. She is 10000% responsible for her death and the shoot was a clean and good as they come. The officer saved us by stopping a domestic terrorist from committing any further acts of terror.

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Domestic terrorist? Get the **** outta here with that nonsense.

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Participating an in insurrection to overthrow the government because you were emotional and couldn't control your emotions like a toddler would definitely classify as a domestic terrorist to any objective person.

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LOL "overthrow a government" with what means?

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The means of illegally entering premises you weren't allowed to, not following direct orders from law enforcement to retreat and attempting to commit violence until an officer was able to be the here we needed and have her stopped in her tracks immediately.

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The same law enforcement that were opening doors. The same law enforcement breaking windows. The same law enforcement pulling people inside the building. Yeah, wtf ever! You are obtuse in your thinking and must not have watched the hours of video tape confirming what I just mentioned about law enforcement.

Again, how were they going to "overthrow a government"? You cannot provide a reasonable explanation of how unarmed protesters were going to overthrow the USA.

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The law enforcement that stopped her from going any further did not open any doors, so no not the same law enforcement. Nothing obtuse about her illegal actions and her personal choice to disobey direct commands while in federal government building. She was in the process of an violent insurrection with other mob members with who knows what in their mind. Shooting her and stopping her dead in her tracks was a sound security decision for our national security. He stopped a domestic terrorist and is a hero and stands for America!

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I agree she was an idiot. Deserve to die? No.

But this ridiculous troll drivel and posters being allowed to 100% troll, tlh's only manner of posting, is why paying for this site sucks and I went to free sub after 15plus years of paid subscriber.

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She deserved to be stopped dead in her tracks, her dying was a choice of her actions. And some may disagree when it comes to the safety of our country, boarders, etc. Many are of the volition that foreign invaders regardless of age deserve whatever consequence comes to them in lieu of breaking the law. Not sure what's so different here but nonetheless the shoot was good and the officer is a godsend and hero and someone we could all send our thanks you to for defending out great nation.

Are you happy with your life you have to troll on a message board ?

Can't wait to hear your opinion on border security and "undocumented immigrants".

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No, the shoot was not good.

There was no insurrection. Continue to beat this dead drum.

Yes, law enforcement was in the crowd acting as agitators. Doesn't matter which law enforcement branch. You are obtuse in not acknowledging this involvement as a serious problem and got someone killed.

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No, the shoot was not good.

There was no insurrection. Continue to beat this dead drum.

Yes, law enforcement was in the crowd acting as agitators. Doesn't matter which law enforcement branch. You are obtuse in not acknowledging this involvement as a serious problem and got someone killed.

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Also, was not a safe situation in which to shoot. Too many people could have been hit, including the police standing right behind and to her right. Shot was fired from left to right with cops right there. He could have killed or seriously wounded someone else.

In the same situation with so many people in tight quarters, with a regular cop, they would have been fired or at least severely reprimanded and riding a desk for a long time.

If you want to go after the people who "let them in the building" or the law enforcement that cheered them on - then have at it.

The chamber of the US House of Representatives was being evacuated while a barricaded entryway was being guarded by an armed officer. Someone broke a window and climbed into the barricaded entryway and got shot -- which ended the mob's attempt to gain access to the barricaded chamber.

You want to say that the whole march on the building was overblown? I won't argue. You want to say that people in law enforcement allowed or wanted it to happen? I don't know the details so I won't argue against that. You want to say the mob really wasn't going to do anything? Ok, can't say that they would have so won't argue that either.

But that woman is the very definition of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If this were a BLM riot and that same man was in his place of business when someone broke a window to gain entry and that same woman was shot, most of you lot would be singing his praises and you'd have every reason to do so.

This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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If you want to go after the people who "let them in the building" or the law enforcement that cheered them on - then have at it.

The chamber of the US House of Representatives was being evacuated while a barricaded entryway was being guarded by an armed officer. Someone broke a window and climbed into the barricaded entryway and got shot -- which ended the mob's attempt to gain access to the barricaded chamber.

You want to say that the whole march on the building was overblown? I won't argue. You want to say that people in law enforcement allowed or wanted it to happen? I don't know the details so I won't argue against that. You want to say the mob really wasn't going to do anything? Ok, can't say that they would have so won't argue that either.

But that woman is the very definition of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If this were a BLM riot and that same man was in his place of business when someone broke a window to gain entry and that same woman was shot, most of you lot would be singing his praises and you'd have every reason to do so.

This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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Defending her is not the same as saying Michael Byrd took a bad shot.

Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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If you want to go after the people who "let them in the building" or the law enforcement that cheered them on - then have at it.

The chamber of the US House of Representatives was being evacuated while a barricaded entryway was being guarded by an armed officer. Someone broke a window and climbed into the barricaded entryway and got shot -- which ended the mob's attempt to gain access to the barricaded chamber.

You want to say that the whole march on the building was overblown? I won't argue. You want to say that people in law enforcement allowed or wanted it to happen? I don't know the details so I won't argue against that. You want to say the mob really wasn't going to do anything? Ok, can't say that they would have so won't argue that either.

But that woman is the very definition of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If this were a BLM riot and that same man was in his place of business when someone broke a window to gain entry and that same woman was shot, most of you lot would be singing his praises and you'd have every reason to do so.

This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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But that woman is the very definition of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If this were a BLM riot and that same man was in his place of business when someone broke a window to gain entry and that same woman was shot, most of you lot would be singing his praises and you'd have every reason to do so.

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First of all, comparing a broken window at a BLM protest is not even comparable. If police started shooting at a BLM protest it would end and the public would be in outcry against the police.

Private business owners protecting the business from a BLM protester, then have at it.

Highly trained police officers in this shoot is completely different.

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If you want to go after the people who "let them in the building" or the law enforcement that cheered them on - then have at it.

The chamber of the US House of Representatives was being evacuated while a barricaded entryway was being guarded by an armed officer. Someone broke a window and climbed into the barricaded entryway and got shot -- which ended the mob's attempt to gain access to the barricaded chamber.

You want to say that the whole march on the building was overblown? I won't argue. You want to say that people in law enforcement allowed or wanted it to happen? I don't know the details so I won't argue against that. You want to say the mob really wasn't going to do anything? Ok, can't say that they would have so won't argue that either.

But that woman is the very definition of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If this were a BLM riot and that same man was in his place of business when someone broke a window to gain entry and that same woman was shot, most of you lot would be singing his praises and you'd have every reason to do so.

This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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This is a clown response and anyone liking it is a clown.

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Defending her is not the same as saying Michael Byrd took a bad shot.

Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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Yes he was found guilty after evidence showed he was guilty of murder.

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Defending her is not the same as saying Michael Byrd took a bad shot.

Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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Yes he was found guilty after evidence showed he was guilty of murder.

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So, both officers did what they were trained to do?

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Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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Defending her is not the same as saying Michael Byrd took a bad shot.

Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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Yes he was found guilty after evidence showed he was guilty of murder.

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He was found guilty because the people on the jury were doxxed and afraid that if they didnt return the "correct" verdict, their houses would be burned down or they would be beaten up.

You know, like **** goes down in 3rd world countries.

George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose. He took too many drugs when the cops rolled up.

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If you want to go after the people who "let them in the building" or the law enforcement that cheered them on - then have at it.

The chamber of the US House of Representatives was being evacuated while a barricaded entryway was being guarded by an armed officer. Someone broke a window and climbed into the barricaded entryway and got shot -- which ended the mob's attempt to gain access to the barricaded chamber.

You want to say that the whole march on the building was overblown? I won't argue. You want to say that people in law enforcement allowed or wanted it to happen? I don't know the details so I won't argue against that. You want to say the mob really wasn't going to do anything? Ok, can't say that they would have so won't argue that either.

But that woman is the very definition of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If this were a BLM riot and that same man was in his place of business when someone broke a window to gain entry and that same woman was shot, most of you lot would be singing his praises and you'd have every reason to do so.

This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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Don't get why conservatives bother with this woman. She had no business being there just like all of the other rioters on January 6th. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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So shooting unarmed women is cool in your book ? He's scum karma got something for him

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Absolutely. She was climbing through a broken window in a barricade a door in the freaking US capital. It doesn't matter if she was armed or not. If someone is breaking into my house, man or woman, armed or unarmed, they are getting shot. End of story.
In no way, are her actions that day defendable.

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Local library is a gvt building should i be shot if i break in unarmed ?

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If you're breaking in under the exact same circumstances as the head shot girl, don't be surprised if someone telling/yelling at you with a gun pointed at you, to stop or backaway, like is obvious in the video clip, head shots you too.

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so murdering unarmed people is cool now or just that she was white so it was ok?

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Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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Yes he was found guilty after evidence showed he was guilty of murder.

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False, one officer legally acted within the means of his authority, the other decided to act outside the means of his authority and commit murder. One is a hero, the other is a murderer convicted of murder by a jury of his peers currently incarcerated for murder.

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This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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Defending her is not the same as saying Michael Byrd took a bad shot.

Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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Yes he was found guilty after evidence showed he was guilty of murder.

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False, one officer legally acted within the means of his authority, the other decided to act outside the means of his authority and commit murder. One is a hero, the other is a murderer convicted of murder by a jury of his peers currently incarcerated for murder.

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how many years now is Floyd sober?

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This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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In regards to whether he took a bad shot, I think you have to know exactly what scenario he felt he was facing at the time. I see a dozen posts in the thread about how "security guards letting people in" and "there was no real uprising", but I don't believe there is anything concrete that tells you what he was seeing/feeling/thinking at that time in his position.

He's tasked with security. The chambers are being evacuated and the entry way is barricaded. This is something that has never happened before. It may not have turned out to be much of any kind of threat, but acting flippantly about how he should have known is silly. You are pointing a gun at people behind a barricade telling them to stay back and they break a window and start climbing in it.

If that had been a real threat and he just let them continue on in (like many people say he should have), then all of you would be wanting him hung up for treason or the like.

From what I read he got her in the shoulder, but ultimately in that situation with what he perceived to be a significant threat in a window - the fact that he only took the one shot tells shows me he wasn't over-doing things.

Regarding Chauvin/Floyd -- IMO the scenarios are wholly different in that based on what Chauvin was seeing it wasn't reasonable to think Floyd posed a significant threat that Chauvin couldn't handle without a large degree of force. Floyd needed to be detained, and likely needed to be detained somewhat physically, but not with the degree of force and/or carelessness that Chauvin used. But I'm certainly not in the camp that Floyd was some innocent subject... he's very much of a "play stupid games..." candidate as well.

But that scenario is different than what the capital officer faced. Yes, the media has completely overblown the "insurrection", but that doesn't somehow mean that in the moment that it was obvious to everyone it was a dog and pony show with no significant threat. That entryway got barricaded for a reason. They were being evacuated for a reason. And that reason was at least multiple higher ups felt that this was potentially a threat.

So yes, in that officer's position with a threat of a large group of people forcing their way into a barricaded building where people are being evacuated firing one shot at someone that is not heeding any warnings from an officer and continuing to force their way into a restricted government building where people are feeling threatened?

Yeah, I got no problem with him taking that shot and truly believe anyone who tries to question him in that scenario is either a clown, far too wrapped up in his "team", or both.

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Not really. The test is do you buy into the religion. If yes then you get heaven. If no then you get hell.

A serial killer who repents on his death bed is forgiven all, while a Hindu who devoted his life to helping others is doomed to all eternity in Hell.

Deserves got nothin to do with it. [/Unforgiven]

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This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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Defending her is not the same as saying Michael Byrd took a bad shot.

Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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Yes he was found guilty after evidence showed he was guilty of murder.

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So, both officers did what they were trained to do?

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False, one officer legally acted within the means of his authority, the other decided to act outside the means of his authority and commit murder. One is a hero, the other is a murderer convicted of murder by a jury of his peers currently incarcerated for murder.

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So much wrong in this reply
MN officers followed the training they were given!

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Don't get why conservatives bother with this woman. She had no business being there just like all of the other rioters on January 6th. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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The woman had a military background and could've done the cops and especially the elderly politicians he was guarding harm if she somehow made it that far. It was very obvious that things were going to get ugly if the rioters pushed any further. She was the only one who did and when she got rebuked, all of the other rioters wouldn't dare go any further.

She had to be put down to stop the situation from escalating. The barricade and the cops were the last things standing between them and the politicians.

We disagree completely

Very well said. And we can't compare shootings between different people in different jurisdictions. One does nothing to impact the other.

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This is a clown thread and anyone defending her is a clown.

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Defending her is not the same as saying Michael Byrd took a bad shot.

Let me ask you this: Did Derek Chauvin "murder" George Floyd?

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In regards to whether he took a bad shot, I think you have to know exactly what scenario he felt he was facing at the time. I see a dozen posts in the thread about how "security guards letting people in" and "there was no real uprising", but I don't believe there is anything concrete that tells you what he was seeing/feeling/thinking at that time in his position.

He's tasked with security. The chambers are being evacuated and the entry way is barricaded. This is something that has never happened before. It may not have turned out to be much of any kind of threat, but acting flippantly about how he should have known is silly. You are pointing a gun at people behind a barricade telling them to stay back and they break a window and start climbing in it.

If that had been a real threat and he just let them continue on in (like many people say he should have), then all of you would be wanting him hung up for treason or the like.

From what I read he got her in the shoulder, but ultimately in that situation with what he perceived to be a significant threat in a window - the fact that he only took the one shot tells shows me he wasn't over-doing things.

Regarding Chauvin/Floyd -- IMO the scenarios are wholly different in that based on what Chauvin was seeing it wasn't reasonable to think Floyd posed a significant threat that Chauvin couldn't handle without a large degree of force. Floyd needed to be detained, and likely needed to be detained somewhat physically, but not with the degree of force and/or carelessness that Chauvin used. But I'm certainly not in the camp that Floyd was some innocent subject... he's very much of a "play stupid games..." candidate as well.

But that scenario is different than what the capital officer faced. Yes, the media has completely overblown the "insurrection", but that doesn't somehow mean that in the moment that it was obvious to everyone it was a dog and pony show with no significant threat. That entryway got barricaded for a reason. They were being evacuated for a reason. And that reason was at least multiple higher ups felt that this was potentially a threat.

So yes, in that officer's position with a threat of a large group of people forcing their way into a barricaded building where people are being evacuated firing one shot at someone that is not heeding any warnings from an officer and continuing to force their way into a restricted government building where people are feeling threatened?

Yeah, I got no problem with him taking that shot and truly believe anyone who tries to question him in that scenario is either a clown, far too wrapped up in his "team", or both.

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Don't get why conservatives bother with this woman. She had no business being there just like all of the other rioters on January 6th. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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So shooting unarmed women is cool in your book ? He's scum karma got something for him

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Absolutely. She was climbing through a broken window in a barricade a door in the freaking US capital. It doesn't matter if she was armed or not. If someone is breaking into my house, man or woman, armed or unarmed, they are getting shot. End of story.
In no way, are her actions that day defendable.

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Local library is a gvt building should i be shot if i break in unarmed ?

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If you're breaking in under the exact same circumstances as the head shot girl, don't be surprised if someone telling/yelling at you with a gun pointed at you, to stop or backaway, like is obvious in the video clip, head shots you too.

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so murdering unarmed people is cool now or just that she was white so it was ok?

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She wasn't innocently taking a leisurely stroll to look at the art in the halls.

She was breaking in, being told by law enforcement to stop, didn't stop, and the "I'm feeling threatened, so I'm going to stand my ground" officer, having had his gun in her face for some time and she's still not stopping, gave her a head shot she'll never know she even got by the look of how she just dropped.

If she would've done what the officer told her to do she'd not be dead right now. It really would've been that simple. Actually, had she not been trying to break in, it wouldn't have even gotten that far.

She's dead because she thought whatever, it doesn't matter. She was breaking into a place she wasn't allowed to go to. She was being told to stop what she was doing by law enforcement (back the blue). The officer had his gun pointing at her "I'm feeling threatened" and was telling her to stop. She didn't stop and the officer "I'm standing my ground" pulled the trigger over with a head shot that dropped her like a stone.

She should've respected what the officer, with a gun pointed at her face, was commanding her to do. Had she backed the blue and respected his authority she wouldn't be buried with a hole in her face.

Like others have said, she's FAFO and won the Darwin award.

I think everyone is just surprised at how white she was when it happened.

It's Officer Byrd's misfortune that discharging his duties is considered beyond the pale. In retrospect I'm sure he wishes he'd have let the mob through. If they wanted to hang Pence that's hardly worth dying over.

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I think everyone is just surprised at how white she was when it happened.

It's Officer Byrd's misfortune that discharging his duties is considered beyond the pale. In retrospect I'm sure he wishes he'd have let the mob through. If they wanted to hang Pence, that's hardly worth dying over.

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Oh gawd! "Hang Pence" LOL. Yes, they were going to hang him in the public square and seat themselves in control of the country.

The only that question that remains…. Is she in heaven?