I was told yesterday that it was announced who killed Ashley Babbit?

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It is confusing.

Would help considerably if the CHP would release the 14,000 hours of surveillance footage to place people where at which time. But who am I kidding? Would the date and time stamps even be all that reliable?

We saw in the Chauvin trial where one agency camera was on Zulu time and Nelson had to keep translating that to match up with Minneapolis time for the jury. Yet another, WTF? moment in that trial.
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aggiehawg said:

It is confusing.

Would help considerably if the CHP would release the 14,000 hours of surveillance footage to place people where at which time. But who am I kidding? Would the date and time stamps even be all that reliable?

We saw in the Chauvin trial where one agency camera was on Zulu time and Nelson had to keep translating that to match up with Minneapolis time for the jury. Yet another, WTF? moment in that trial.
That is actually a property of twitter. As long as you know the context -- what it does is show the time of the one looking at it (that is over-simplified, but true for the next statement here) rather than where at. If you look at Texags threads on Jan 6, many tweets are actually showing Texas time. The few that don't are direct screencaps or second hand links.

Second, some of the tweeters and bloggers, like BGOnTheScene, Brendan Gutenswhager, wasn't able to tweet exactly real time, but after a delay as reported that day, and easily checked. Yet his are some of the better videos and are routinely played by the major news links or re-tweeted.

The Texags threads on Jan 6 makes the timelines very clear because you have real-time local visible frozen above the tweet times. Spent hours looking at all again in later January before youtube started taking so much down. And of course Texags preserves some of it still. Another nearly infallible source are the MSM video lives that day --- those looking at them jotting down times can have another fix.

That's what you are seeing in those reports -- failure to keep the chronology straight.
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aggiehawg said:


Not by name. The actual reporter was Chad Pergram. Their Capitol Hill reporter.

Reason I posted that was because a few posters believed the officer shot because he was on a personal protective detail. He wasn't. He was defending a corridor, not a person.

So legally, under Graham v. Connor tests, the shoot comes under further question. DOJ doesn't care.

But Ashli Babbitt's husband has a much stronger claim though, IMO.
Even if he wasn't on a protective detail doesn't mean he wasn't defending persons in that situation. If he was just defending a corridor, I don't believe it would be a justifiable shoot either. I also don't believe it would could be covered up.

I would like to see the pertinent evidence. Hopefully it will come out, even if it takes the civil suit.
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Update on Officer Byrd, who shot Ashli Babbitt (murdered her) on J6 during the fedsurrection next to an agent provacateur.



That's right. He's being promoted.
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In a just world, he'd be doing life in prison.
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Slicer97 said:

In a just world, he'd be doing life in prison.


In no shape or form is being legally allowed to defend with force during an appropriate time to use force a just world if said person then goes to prison.
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Slicer97 said:

In a just world, he'd be doing life in prison.


The world isn't just, what comes after is.
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As a soldier, Ashli Babbitt should have known the repercussions of entering a secured area without authorization.

Oh well. FAFO.
Gig 'Em
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Anonymous Source said:

As a soldier, Ashli Babbitt should have known the repercussions of entering a secured area without authorization.

Oh well. FAFO.


The left finally found a police shooting they say is a good one.
It's just ironic it's a black police officer shooting an unarmed white female.

Now if someone will finally release who gave the command for the armed guards to abandon those doors leaving the lone armed police officer behind the doors to just shoot her. It's almost as if it was planned.
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Slicer97 said:

In a just world, he'd be doing life in prison.
In a just world he would not be alive to be in prison.
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That's right. He's being promoted.

Gross.
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AGHouston11 said:

Anonymous Source said:

As a soldier, Ashli Babbitt should have known the repercussions of entering a secured area without authorization.

Oh well. FAFO.


The left finally found a police shooting they say is a good one.
It's just ironic it's a black police officer shooting an unarmed white female.

Now if someone will finally release who gave the command for the armed guards to abandon those doors leaving the lone armed police officer behind the doors to just shoot her. It's almost as if it was planned.
Planned to shoot anyone trying to enter a restricted area by kicking out a window?
No issue here.
Gig 'Em
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Anonymous Source said:

AGHouston11 said:

Anonymous Source said:

As a soldier, Ashli Babbitt should have known the repercussions of entering a secured area without authorization.

Oh well. FAFO.


The left finally found a police shooting they say is a good one.
It's just ironic it's a black police officer shooting an unarmed white female.

Now if someone will finally release who gave the command for the armed guards to abandon those doors leaving the lone armed police officer behind the doors to just shoot her. It's almost as if it was planned.
Planned to shoot anyone trying to enter a restricted area by kicking out a window?
No issue here.


Exactly a shoot the left likes!
They also support shooting unarmed "protesters" who broke into businesses to loot correct. Those are restricted areas.
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AGHouston11 said:

Anonymous Source said:

AGHouston11 said:

Anonymous Source said:

As a soldier, Ashli Babbitt should have known the repercussions of entering a secured area without authorization.

Oh well. FAFO.


The left finally found a police shooting they say is a good one.
It's just ironic it's a black police officer shooting an unarmed white female.

Now if someone will finally release who gave the command for the armed guards to abandon those doors leaving the lone armed police officer behind the doors to just shoot her. It's almost as if it was planned.
Planned to shoot anyone trying to enter a restricted area by kicking out a window?
No issue here.


Exactly a shoot the left likes!
They also support shooting unarmed "protesters" who broke into businesses to loot correct. Those are restricted areas.
Believe it or not, there is a higher security protocol on the VP, Speaker of the House and other members of Congress than there is on a 12 pack of Coors Light. But, if the owners of the property met them at the door with guns, again, no issue.
Gig 'Em
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It blows my mind that any of you don't think this was a justified use of force. She was in a riot, inside the capitol, climbing through a broken window of a barricaded door with members of congress right down the hall. This was a good shoot. End of story. The fact some of you are calling for him to be in prison or killed is insane.
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YellowPot_97 said:

It blows my mind that any of you don't think this was a justified use of force. She was in a riot, inside the capitol, climbing through a broken window of a barricaded door with members of congress right down the hall. This was a good shoot. End of story. The fact some of you are calling for him to be in prison or killed is insane.
Maybe he could have just pushed her back?
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swampstander said:

YellowPot_97 said:

It blows my mind that any of you don't think this was a justified use of force. She was in a riot, inside the capitol, climbing through a broken window of a barricaded door with members of congress right down the hall. This was a good shoot. End of story. The fact some of you are calling for him to be in prison or killed is insane.
Maybe he could have just pushed her back?

That's the equivalent of telling someone who conceal carries to shoot an attacker in the knees instead of center mass.
Maybe she shouldn't have been climbing through a broken window of a barricaded door in the middle of the capitol.
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Cops

Including the feds who incited the january 6 protest.
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

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YellowPot_97 said:

It blows my mind that any of you don't think this was a justified use of force. She was in a riot, inside the capitol, climbing through a broken window of a barricaded door with members of congress right down the hall. This was a good shoot. End of story. The fact some of you are calling for him to be in prison or killed is insane.


Sounds like propaganda to me. No need to kill her like it was a wackemole game.

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YellowPot_97 said:

Secolobo said:

thirdcoast said:

It's also not helpful for the narrative for white conservatives to not be outraged by a black cop killing a white girl. It forces both sides to discuss the circumstances of the encounter and value those facts over skin color of cop or victim. That process is incredibly destructive as it would have likely led to George Floyd type cases never making it past the local news. If that happens, dems lose one of their most effective voter turnout schemes.

It sucks that she thought it wasn't dangerous to breach the floor of Congress. But now everyone from BLM to Handsmaid tale to Taliban know what is off limits. They should suffer same fate, and if not, then we should all be outraged.
But security opened the gates and the damn doors.

She was climbing through a broken window of a barricaded door in the US Capital building.
How anyone is defending her is beyond me.
Hooray!!!! Finally, someone on this site that has brains enough to see the truth!!!
She was stupid enough to raid the capitol, she was stupid enough to try and climb over that barricade, she therefore won the prize awarded to stupid -acting people practicing dangerous tactics!
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FCBlitz said:

YellowPot_97 said:

It blows my mind that any of you don't think this was a justified use of force. She was in a riot, inside the capitol, climbing through a broken window of a barricaded door with members of congress right down the hall. This was a good shoot. End of story. The fact some of you are calling for him to be in prison or killed is insane.


Sounds like propaganda to me. No need to kill her like it was a wackemole game.



It's not propaganda. It's what happened. The entire incident is on video. She played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
You sound like liberal defund the police type. "He was a good boy who didn't do nuffin'. Why the police have to shoot him." As "good" boy is on film trying to rob and stab people.
Stop making excuses for stupid criminals.
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Don't get why conservatives bother with this woman. She had no business being there just like all of the other rioters on January 6th. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Grapesoda2525 said:

Don't get why conservatives bother with this woman. She had no business being there just like all of the other rioters on January 6th. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

A martyr to the cult of Trump
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Good thing he didn't hit any of the officers that were right behind her.
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CS78 said:

Good thing he didn't hit any of the officers that were right behind her.


Right? Thank gawd she didn't have a poodle with her. I wonder what those two officers and the other out of control rioter thought who saw the kill.

Once again, the folks were in the building. There was no final area where the officer had to retreat to. He could have holstered his gun and walked on out and no one had to die. It was not Custer's Last Stand.
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Her killer was given a promotion
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Grapesoda2525 said:

Don't get why conservatives bother with this woman. She had no business being there just like all of the other rioters on January 6th. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


So shooting unarmed women is cool in your book ? He's scum karma got something for him
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Interestingly, John Sullivan, antifa blm activist, who filmed the murder with a 'documentary film maker' then went on CNN to discuss it, and sold the footage to NBC for $90K, was only briefly arrested and released after a day in jail.

Quote:

At the Capitol riot, Sullivan was accused of multiple confrontations with officers and making "consistently gleeful exhortations about burning and breaking things throughout the building and its grounds," according to a court brief filed Feb. 4, 2021.

His criminal complaint is filled with expletive-laden quotes from the 50-minute video he shot and later sold to media outlets for $90,000.

Among his comments: "There are so many people. Let's go. This s*** is ours! F*** yeah," and "That's what I'm sayin', break that s***" when someone banged on a door. At least twice, he threatened to burn down the building, stating, "We gotta get this s*** burned," and "Let's burn this s*** down!"

Sullivan was arrested on Jan. 14, 2021, in his home state of Utah. The next day, a federal judge refused to allow a hearing aimed at keeping Sullivan in jail until his trial. Instead, he was released to home confinement with an ankle monitoring device. He was also forbidden from accessing social media sites and running his organization Insurgence USA, according to court documents.

The order specifically told him to stay off Twitter, where his account has been a curse-filled running diatribe against Trump. The judicial order was violated four times, but he remains free.
Clearly, the swamp/DOJ gulag masters didn't want him embarrassing their lies about the fedsurrection further.
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FCBlitz said:

CS78 said:

Good thing he didn't hit any of the officers that were right behind her.


Right? Thank gawd she didn't have a poodle with her. I wonder what those two officers and the other out of control rioter thought who saw the kill.

Once again, the folks were in the building. There was no final area where the officer had to retreat to. He could have holstered his gun and walked on out and no one had to die. It was not Custer's Last Stand.

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She could have complied after several warning and retreated or turned around. She could have not been illegally trying to break through area she was clearly not allowed. She is 10000% responsible for her death and the shoot was a clean and good as they come. The officer saved us by stopping a domestic terrorist from committing any further acts of terror.
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Yeah, I'm sure he feared for his life because of her.
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stetson said:

Yeah, I'm sure he feared for his life because of her.


It's irrelevant what you're sure of or not. She broke the law, was warned multiple times, ignored those orders, continue to terrorize, and was appropriately dealt with. A1, great shoot and rid the great country of another terrorist trying to bring us down.
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TheTruthsLastHope said:

FCBlitz said:

CS78 said:

Good thing he didn't hit any of the officers that were right behind her.


Right? Thank gawd she didn't have a poodle with her. I wonder what those two officers and the other out of control rioter thought who saw the kill.

Once again, the folks were in the building. There was no final area where the officer had to retreat to. He could have holstered his gun and walked on out and no one had to die. It was not Custer's Last Stand.

m
She could have complied after several warning and retreated or turned around. She could have not been illegally trying to break through area she was clearly not allowed. She is 10000% responsible for her death and the shoot was a clean and good as they come. The officer saved us by stopping a domestic terrorist from committing any further acts of terror.
Domestic terrorist? Get the **** outta here with that nonsense.
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FCBlitz said:

CS78 said:

Good thing he didn't hit any of the officers that were right behind her.


Right? Thank gawd she didn't have a poodle with her. I wonder what those two officers and the other out of control rioter thought who saw the kill.

Once again, the folks were in the building. There was no final area where the officer had to retreat to. He could have holstered his gun and walked on out and no one had to die. It was not Custer's Last Stand.



And she could have not been climbing thru a broken window of a barricade.

FAFO
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jt2hunt said:

TheTruthsLastHope said:

FCBlitz said:

CS78 said:

Good thing he didn't hit any of the officers that were right behind her.


Right? Thank gawd she didn't have a poodle with her. I wonder what those two officers and the other out of control rioter thought who saw the kill.

Once again, the folks were in the building. There was no final area where the officer had to retreat to. He could have holstered his gun and walked on out and no one had to die. It was not Custer's Last Stand.

m
She could have complied after several warning and retreated or turned around. She could have not been illegally trying to break through area she was clearly not allowed. She is 10000% responsible for her death and the shoot was a clean and good as they come. The officer saved us by stopping a domestic terrorist from committing any further acts of terror.
Domestic terrorist? Get the **** outta here with that nonsense.


Participating an in insurrection to overthrow the government because you were emotional and couldn't control your emotions like a toddler would definitely classify as a domestic terrorist to any objective person.
 
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