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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

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Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

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Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

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We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

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You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

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Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

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Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

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Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

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I thought you said I answered your question?

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The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

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We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

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I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

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Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

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I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

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"Don't you learn from history?", says the guy who has been screaming appeasement this entire thread. Chamberlain would love you.

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Yes some other guy already said the Neville thing. Clever. I asked him what I'll ask you. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan.

(The other guy who said the clever Neville thing ran away)

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Why should the US defend a decades long ally against a nation determined to to control the globe both politically and economically by any means possible? That same nation that is practically drooling to get things going by first controlling Asia and the vast wealth that's found there?

Are you seriously asking such inane and poorly thought out questions, Neville?

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

---

Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

---

Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

---

We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

---

Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

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Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

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Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

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I thought you said I answered your question?

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The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

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I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

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I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

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"Don't you learn from history?", says the guy who has been screaming appeasement this entire thread. Chamberlain would love you.

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Yes some other guy already said the Neville thing. Clever. I asked him what I'll ask you. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan.

(The other guy who said the clever Neville thing ran away)

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Why should the US defend a decades long ally against a nation determined to to control the globe both politically and economically by any means possible? That same nation that is practically drooling to get things going by first controlling Asia and the vast wealth that's found there?

Are you seriously asking such inane and poorly thought out questions, Neville?

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All of your conjecture aside. You tell me why. Do you buy into the cartoon bad guy China narrative?

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

---

So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

---

Why do you care about Taiwan?

---

Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

---

Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

---

We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

---

Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

---

I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

---

Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

---

Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

---

Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

---

Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

---

I thought you said I answered your question?

---

The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

---

I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

---

I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

---

"Don't you learn from history?", says the guy who has been screaming appeasement this entire thread. Chamberlain would love you.

---

Yes some other guy already said the Neville thing. Clever. I asked him what I'll ask you. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan.

(The other guy who said the clever Neville thing ran away)

---

Why should the US defend a decades long ally against a nation determined to to control the globe both politically and economically by any means possible? That same nation that is practically drooling to get things going by first controlling Asia and the vast wealth that's found there?

Are you seriously asking such inane and poorly thought out questions, Neville?

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All of your conjecture aside. You tell me why. Do you buy into the cartoon bad guy China narrative?

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Tell me why we shouldn't. Outside of "war is bad".

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

---

So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

---

Why do you care about Taiwan?

---

Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

---

Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

---

We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

---

Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

---

I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

---

Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

---

Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

---

Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

---

Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

---

I thought you said I answered your question?

---

The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

---

I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

---

I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

---

"Don't you learn from history?", says the guy who has been screaming appeasement this entire thread. Chamberlain would love you.

---

Yes some other guy already said the Neville thing. Clever. I asked him what I'll ask you. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan.

(The other guy who said the clever Neville thing ran away)

---

Why should the US defend a decades long ally against a nation determined to to control the globe both politically and economically by any means possible? That same nation that is practically drooling to get things going by first controlling Asia and the vast wealth that's found there?

Are you seriously asking such inane and poorly thought out questions, Neville?

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All of your conjecture aside. You tell me why. Do you buy into the cartoon bad guy China narrative?

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Tell me why we shouldn't. Outside of "war is bad".

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A war with China serves no purpose to the American people.

Why should we do war with China to defend Taiwan?

what is your old username? i can't quite place it but your shtick seems very familiar.

Serves no purpose? Your thinking is childishly simplistic. Letting China bulldoze it's way across Asia, a region absolutely vital and immensely important to the entire globe, would be catastrophic for the average American.

This isn't about Taiwan. This is about China. You need to quit looking at this is such a simplistic way. Global politics at this level is quite complex. You don't seem to grasp that.

I just love how everyone wants to do war with China to defend Taiwan but they just can't explain why

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Serves no purpose? Your thinking is childishly simplistic. Letting China bulldoze it's way across Asia, a region absolutely vital and immensely important to the entire globe, would be catastrophic for the average American.

This isn't about Taiwan. This is about China. You need to quit looking at this is such a simplistic way. Global politics at this level is quite complex. You don't seem to grasp that.

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See now you are doing an entirely different hypothetical scenario made up in your mind (with help from media).

You think China is a cartoon bad guy.

But even still. Why should the US go to war with China to defend Taiwan?

At this point you're just making an ass of yourself. It's been spelled out to you numerous times the economic and strategic importance keeping China out of Taiwan plays for the US and the rest of the world, and yet you keep babbling your pro Chinese Communist nonsense. It's a sad day when the US won't defend a long time democratic ally against a proven communist enemy.

i made no comment about the content of this thread/argument and very much agree with you on other topics (like the mask/covid thread).

i ask because you seem familiar but i'm having trouble placing you for some reason.

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At this point you're just making an ass of yourself. It's been spelled out to you numerous times the economic and strategic importance keeping China out of Taiwan plays for the US and the rest of the world, and yet you keep babbling your pro Chinese Communist nonsense. It's a sad day when the US won't defend a long time democratic ally against a proven communist enemy.

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Not once has it been "spelled out".

I've got 2 answers to my question which are "China is bent on world domination" which is a baseless claim, and "we must protect our ally" which is equally dumb as I explained earlier

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

---

Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

---

So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

---

Why do you care about Taiwan?

---

Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

---

Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

---

We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

---

Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

---

Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

---

Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

---

Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

---

I thought you said I answered your question?

---

The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

---

I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

---

I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

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So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

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Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

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China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

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At this point you're just making an ass of yourself. It's been spelled out to you numerous times the economic and strategic importance keeping China out of Taiwan plays for the US and the rest of the world, and yet you keep babbling your pro Chinese Communist nonsense. It's a sad day when the US won't defend a long time democratic ally against a proven communist enemy.

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Not once has it been "spelled out".

I've got 2 answers to my question which are "China is bent on world domination" which is a baseless claim, and "we must protect our ally" which is equally dumb as I explained earlier

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Your poor reading comprehension is on display once again. You missed the part multiple times about the strategic importance to trade and shipping Taiwan plays in the western pacific, and when someone says the US protecting a major world democracy is "dumb", that's insane and flys in the face of what America is supposed to stand for.

Taiwan provides vital components for much of the stuff we use daily. We need to work diligently at reshoring electronics manufacturing because right now we are completely beholden to a couple of countries in east Asia. Taiwan is one of those nations. Also, if we abandon them we have gone against decades old protections that we have promised them.

What about Korea, or Japan, or the Philippines? Do we just let China rampage through that part of the world? Australia? Do we stand with them? Chamberlain's approach is not what you use when facing an extreme imperialistic totalitarian threat.

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

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Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

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Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

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We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

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You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

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Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

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Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

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Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

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I thought you said I answered your question?

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The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

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We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

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I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

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Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

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I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

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So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

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Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

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China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

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You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

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At this point you're just making an ass of yourself. It's been spelled out to you numerous times the economic and strategic importance keeping China out of Taiwan plays for the US and the rest of the world, and yet you keep babbling your pro Chinese Communist nonsense. It's a sad day when the US won't defend a long time democratic ally against a proven communist enemy.

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Not once has it been "spelled out".

I've got 2 answers to my question which are "China is bent on world domination" which is a baseless claim, and "we must protect our ally" which is equally dumb as I explained earlier

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Your poor reading comprehension is on display once again. You missed the part multiple times about the strategic importance to trade and shipping Taiwan plays in the western pacific, and when someone says the US protecting a major world democracy is "dumb", that's insane and flys in the face of what America is supposed to stand for.

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Wrong. We currently trade with China. We gave them all our industry 30 years ago with "free trade". To say "we must protect Taiwan for the sake of trade routes" is downright goofy.

Furthermore. Do you just wanna do war with China? Let's take Taiwan out of the equation. Do you think war is just some Willy nilly thing and america will win because we are "the good guys". How have the last 50 years of war gone? China isn't a cupcake like iraq

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At this point you're just making an ass of yourself. It's been spelled out to you numerous times the economic and strategic importance keeping China out of Taiwan plays for the US and the rest of the world, and yet you keep babbling your pro Chinese Communist nonsense. It's a sad day when the US won't defend a long time democratic ally against a proven communist enemy.

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Not once has it been "spelled out".

I've got 2 answers to my question which are "China is bent on world domination" which is a baseless claim, and "we must protect our ally" which is equally dumb as I explained earlier

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Your poor reading comprehension is on display once again. You missed the part multiple times about the strategic importance to trade and shipping Taiwan plays in the western pacific, and when someone says the US protecting a major world democracy is "dumb", that's insane and flys in the face of what America is supposed to stand for.

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Wrong. We currently trade with China. We gave them all our industry 30 years ago with "free trade". To say "we must protect Taiwan for the sake of trade routes" is downright goofy.

Furthermore. Do you just wanna do war with China? Let's take Taiwan out of the equation. Do you think war is just some Willy nilly thing and america will win because we are "the good guys". How have the last 50 years of war gone? China isn't a cupcake like iraq

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Congratulations! You just proved MY point with the 30 years of trade remark! And you deny they are in it for the long haul and have no desire to control world trade. They did it with the full on blessing of short sighted western thinkers like you!

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At this point you're just making an ass of yourself. It's been spelled out to you numerous times the economic and strategic importance keeping China out of Taiwan plays for the US and the rest of the world, and yet you keep babbling your pro Chinese Communist nonsense. It's a sad day when the US won't defend a long time democratic ally against a proven communist enemy.

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Not once has it been "spelled out".

I've got 2 answers to my question which are "China is bent on world domination" which is a baseless claim, and "we must protect our ally" which is equally dumb as I explained earlier

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Your poor reading comprehension is on display once again. You missed the part multiple times about the strategic importance to trade and shipping Taiwan plays in the western pacific, and when someone says the US protecting a major world democracy is "dumb", that's insane and flys in the face of what America is supposed to stand for.

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Wrong. We currently trade with China. We gave them all our industry 30 years ago with "free trade". To say "we must protect Taiwan for the sake of trade routes" is downright goofy.

Furthermore. Do you just wanna do war with China? Let's take Taiwan out of the equation. Do you think war is just some Willy nilly thing and america will win because we are "the good guys". How have the last 50 years of war gone? China isn't a cupcake like iraq

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Congratulations! You just proved MY point with the 30 years of trade remark! And you deny they are in it for the long haul and have no desire to control world trade. They did it with the full on blessing of short sighted western thinkers like you!

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Bro. Are you saying we must do war with China because they accepted all our industry we gave away?

I never said any of of the other things you said I said.

But if that's your reason for wanting war with China, just say it.

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

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Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

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Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

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We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

---

Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

---

Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

---

Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

---

I thought you said I answered your question?

---

The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

---

I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

---

I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

---

So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

---

Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

---

China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

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You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

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If we declare we will defend Taiwan, China will not attack us directly. If we declare we will defend Taiwan for China to succeed they will have to invade with troops on the ground. Such an action will align the rest of the world against china(this one I am not sure about as I think Facebook, twitter and the msm are traitors to our country and will suppress and use propaganda in an attempt, similar to what you are doing, against a US response.) The second Chinese troops are on the ground in Taiwan the rest of the world is instantly aligned against China.

If, instead, we acquiesce, and allow China to take Taiwan without much trouble the only question becomes who they strike next.

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

---

Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

---

Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

---

We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

---

Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

---

Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

---

Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

---

Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

---

I thought you said I answered your question?

---

The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

---

I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

---

I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

---

So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

---

Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

---

China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

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You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

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If we declare we will defend Taiwan, China will not attack us directly. If we declare we will defend Taiwan for China to succeed they will have to invade with troops on the ground. Such an action will align the rest of the world against china(this one I am not sure about as I think Facebook, twitter and the msm are traitors to our country and will suppress and use propaganda in an attempt, similar to what you are doing, against a US response.) The second Chinese troops are on the ground in Taiwan the rest of the world is instantly aligned against China.

If, instead, we acquiesce, and allow China to take Taiwan without much trouble the only question becomes who they strike next.

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That's a war game scenario made up in your brain (I'm guessing).

My question is not what would happen. My question is why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan. If you can't answer it's ok. No one can

No, there's no evidence China released a virus on the world that killed millions. None at all..

https://www.hoover.org/research/china-deliberately-spread-coronavirus-what-are-strategic-consequences


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/blogs/Whathappensif/how-china-locked-down-internally-for-covid-19-but-pushed-foreign-travel/

https://english.alarabiya.net/features/2020/04/09/Coronavirus-Critics-ask-why-China-allowed-flights-out-of-Hubei-during-outbreak

https://www.westernjournal.com/navarro-china-cut-off-domestic-travel-wuhan-allowed-intl-travel-continue-spreading-covid/

The slightest bit of searching outside of Google shows dozens of articles like these

This thread is turning into a Shanked Punt level of teeth kicking..

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

---

So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

---

Why do you care about Taiwan?

---

Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

---

Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

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We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

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You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

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Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

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Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

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Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

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I thought you said I answered your question?

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The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

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We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

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I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

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Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

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I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

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So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

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Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

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China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

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You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

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If we declare we will defend Taiwan, China will not attack us directly. If we declare we will defend Taiwan for China to succeed they will have to invade with troops on the ground. Such an action will align the rest of the world against china(this one I am not sure about as I think Facebook, twitter and the msm are traitors to our country and will suppress and use propaganda in an attempt, similar to what you are doing, against a US response.) The second Chinese troops are on the ground in Taiwan the rest of the world is instantly aligned against China.

If, instead, we acquiesce, and allow China to take Taiwan without much trouble the only question becomes who they strike next.

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That's a war game scenario made up in your brain (I'm guessing).

My question is not what would happen. My question is why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan. If you can't answer it's ok. No one can

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This whole thread is someone's opinion and idea of a war game.

So it's your turn now. You need to speculate and lay out China's future moves, as you see it, when we do what you want, hand Taiwan over to the chi-coms on a silver platter. Try and convince me that is the best move.

strange how proper twelve is avoiding answering why he changed usernames.

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

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Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

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Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

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We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

---

Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

---

Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

---

Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

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I thought you said I answered your question?

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The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

---

I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

---

I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

---

So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

---

Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

---

China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

---

You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

---

If we declare we will defend Taiwan, China will not attack us directly. If we declare we will defend Taiwan for China to succeed they will have to invade with troops on the ground. Such an action will align the rest of the world against china(this one I am not sure about as I think Facebook, twitter and the msm are traitors to our country and will suppress and use propaganda in an attempt, similar to what you are doing, against a US response.) The second Chinese troops are on the ground in Taiwan the rest of the world is instantly aligned against China.

If, instead, we acquiesce, and allow China to take Taiwan without much trouble the only question becomes who they strike next.

---

That's a war game scenario made up in your brain (I'm guessing).

My question is not what would happen. My question is why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan. If you can't answer it's ok. No one can

---

This whole thread is someone's opinion and idea of a war game.

So it's your turn now. You need to speculate and lay out China's future moves, as you see it, when we do what you want, hand Taiwan over to the chi-coms on a silver platter. Try and convince me that is the best move.

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Wrong. I'm asking you a simple question which you refuse to answer. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan?

Your question has been answered multiple time, and you simply do t like the answer. Our turn
Do you believe hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese could be killed by a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan?
Do you believe a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan would be an economic and strategic coup for the ChiComs? Why is that a good thing?

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Your question has been answered multiple time, and you simply do t like the answer. Our turn
Do you believe hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese could be killed by a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan?
Do you believe a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan would be an economic and strategic coup for the ChiComs? Why is that a good thing?

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As an America first American I really don't care. Why do you care? Are you doing "China boogy man cartoon bad guy scenario"?

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

---

Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

---

Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

---

We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

---

Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

---

I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

---

Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

---

Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

---

Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

---

Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

---

I thought you said I answered your question?

---

The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

---

I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

---

I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

---

So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

---

Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

---

China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

---

You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

---

If we declare we will defend Taiwan, China will not attack us directly. If we declare we will defend Taiwan for China to succeed they will have to invade with troops on the ground. Such an action will align the rest of the world against china(this one I am not sure about as I think Facebook, twitter and the msm are traitors to our country and will suppress and use propaganda in an attempt, similar to what you are doing, against a US response.) The second Chinese troops are on the ground in Taiwan the rest of the world is instantly aligned against China.

If, instead, we acquiesce, and allow China to take Taiwan without much trouble the only question becomes who they strike next.

---

That's a war game scenario made up in your brain (I'm guessing).

My question is not what would happen. My question is why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan. If you can't answer it's ok. No one can

---

This whole thread is someone's opinion and idea of a war game.

So it's your turn now. You need to speculate and lay out China's future moves, as you see it, when we do what you want, hand Taiwan over to the chi-coms on a silver platter. Try and convince me that is the best move.

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Wrong. I'm asking you a simple question which you refuse to answer. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan?

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I have told you twice already and I will tell you a third time.
I think we should declare our intention to defend Taiwan. Then let China make the next move. I think China will not stop at Taiwan if we give Taiwan to China . And I think this will prevent a broader conflict in the future. If China takes Taiwan after a fight they will less likely to attempt to take territory over which they have no claim.
It is now up to you to tell us China's
future moves after we give Taiwan to China. You have to tell us why you think your way would be the best move. And your answer can't be just because.

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

---

Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

---

So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

---

Why do you care about Taiwan?

---

Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

---

Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

---

We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

---

Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

---

Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

---

Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

---

Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

---

I thought you said I answered your question?

---

The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

---

I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

---

I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

---

So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

---

Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

---

China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

---

You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

---

If we declare we will defend Taiwan, China will not attack us directly. If we declare we will defend Taiwan for China to succeed they will have to invade with troops on the ground. Such an action will align the rest of the world against china(this one I am not sure about as I think Facebook, twitter and the msm are traitors to our country and will suppress and use propaganda in an attempt, similar to what you are doing, against a US response.) The second Chinese troops are on the ground in Taiwan the rest of the world is instantly aligned against China.

If, instead, we acquiesce, and allow China to take Taiwan without much trouble the only question becomes who they strike next.

---

That's a war game scenario made up in your brain (I'm guessing).

My question is not what would happen. My question is why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan. If you can't answer it's ok. No one can

---

This whole thread is someone's opinion and idea of a war game.

So it's your turn now. You need to speculate and lay out China's future moves, as you see it, when we do what you want, hand Taiwan over to the chi-coms on a silver platter. Try and convince me that is the best move.

---

Wrong. I'm asking you a simple question which you refuse to answer. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan?

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I have told you twice already and I will tell you a third time.
I think we should declare our intention to defend Taiwan. Then let China make the next move. I think China will not stop at Taiwan if we give Taiwan to China . And I think this will prevent a broader conflict in the future. If China takes Taiwan after a fight they will less likely to attempt to take territory over which they have no claim.
It is now up to you to tell us China's
future moves after we give Taiwan to China. You have to tell us why you think your way would be the best move. And your answer can't be just because.

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You are doing war game scenarios again so I'll rephrase the question since you can't or refuse to answer it. Would war with China to defend Taiwan be a good or bad thing for America and why

holy **** this thread sucks.

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

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Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

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Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

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We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

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You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

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Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

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Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

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Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

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I thought you said I answered your question?

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The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

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We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

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I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

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Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

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I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

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So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

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Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

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China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

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You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

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If we declare we will defend Taiwan, China will not attack us directly. If we declare we will defend Taiwan for China to succeed they will have to invade with troops on the ground. Such an action will align the rest of the world against china(this one I am not sure about as I think Facebook, twitter and the msm are traitors to our country and will suppress and use propaganda in an attempt, similar to what you are doing, against a US response.) The second Chinese troops are on the ground in Taiwan the rest of the world is instantly aligned against China.

If, instead, we acquiesce, and allow China to take Taiwan without much trouble the only question becomes who they strike next.

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That's a war game scenario made up in your brain (I'm guessing).

My question is not what would happen. My question is why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan. If you can't answer it's ok. No one can

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This whole thread is someone's opinion and idea of a war game.

So it's your turn now. You need to speculate and lay out China's future moves, as you see it, when we do what you want, hand Taiwan over to the chi-coms on a silver platter. Try and convince me that is the best move.

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Wrong. I'm asking you a simple question which you refuse to answer. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan?

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I have told you twice already and I will tell you a third time.
I think we should declare our intention to defend Taiwan. Then let China make the next move. I think China will not stop at Taiwan if we give Taiwan to China . And I think this will prevent a broader conflict in the future. If China takes Taiwan after a fight they will less likely to attempt to take territory over which they have no claim.
It is now up to you to tell us China's
future moves after we give Taiwan to China. You have to tell us why you think your way would be the best move. And your answer can't be just because.

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You are doing war game scenarios again so I'll rephrase the question since you can't or refuse to answer it. Would war with China to defend Taiwan be a good or bad thing for America and why

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I think to defend Taiwan prevents WW3. We don't have to fire a shot to do it. We only have to declare our intent to do so. Then the next move is up to China. We should in no way do a pre-emptive strike on China. If China attacks I think the rest of the west aligns against China.

You must answer now china's future moves after you gift Taiwan to them. Any refusal to answer confirms you are only a troll.

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

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Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

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Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

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We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

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You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

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Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

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Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

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Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

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I thought you said I answered your question?

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The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

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We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

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I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

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Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

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I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

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So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

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Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

---

China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

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You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

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If we declare we will defend Taiwan, China will not attack us directly. If we declare we will defend Taiwan for China to succeed they will have to invade with troops on the ground. Such an action will align the rest of the world against china(this one I am not sure about as I think Facebook, twitter and the msm are traitors to our country and will suppress and use propaganda in an attempt, similar to what you are doing, against a US response.) The second Chinese troops are on the ground in Taiwan the rest of the world is instantly aligned against China.

If, instead, we acquiesce, and allow China to take Taiwan without much trouble the only question becomes who they strike next.

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That's a war game scenario made up in your brain (I'm guessing).

My question is not what would happen. My question is why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan. If you can't answer it's ok. No one can

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This whole thread is someone's opinion and idea of a war game.

So it's your turn now. You need to speculate and lay out China's future moves, as you see it, when we do what you want, hand Taiwan over to the chi-coms on a silver platter. Try and convince me that is the best move.

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Wrong. I'm asking you a simple question which you refuse to answer. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan?

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I have told you twice already and I will tell you a third time.
I think we should declare our intention to defend Taiwan. Then let China make the next move. I think China will not stop at Taiwan if we give Taiwan to China . And I think this will prevent a broader conflict in the future. If China takes Taiwan after a fight they will less likely to attempt to take territory over which they have no claim.
It is now up to you to tell us China's
future moves after we give Taiwan to China. You have to tell us why you think your way would be the best move. And your answer can't be just because.

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You are doing war game scenarios again so I'll rephrase the question since you can't or refuse to answer it. Would war with China to defend Taiwan be a good or bad thing for America and why

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I think to defend Taiwan prevents WW3. We don't have to fire a shot to do it. We only have to declare our intent to do so. Then the next move is up to China. We should in no way do a pre-emptive strike on China. If China attacks I think the rest of the west aligns against China.

You must answer now china's future moves after you gift Taiwan to them. Any refusal to answer confirms you are only a troll.

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"Prevents" is a word I see thrown around a lot to justify US worldwide aggression. What happens if China invades Taiwan? Should the US start a war with China to defend?

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Your question has been answered multiple time, and you simply do t like the answer. Our turn
Do you believe hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese could be killed by a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan?
Do you believe a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan would be an economic and strategic coup for the ChiComs? Why is that a good thing?

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As an America first American I really don't care. Why do you care? Are you doing "China boogy man cartoon bad guy scenario"?

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And you dodge the question. Classic. They're simple. Why not answer them?

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Your question has been answered multiple time, and you simply do t like the answer. Our turn
Do you believe hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese could be killed by a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan?
Do you believe a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan would be an economic and strategic coup for the ChiComs? Why is that a good thing?

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As an America first American I really don't care. Why do you care? Are you doing "China boogy man cartoon bad guy scenario"?

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And you dodge the question. Classic. They're simple. Why not answer them?

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I answered your hypothetical China boogy man mass murder question.

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china's navies are patrolling waters of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philipines claiming it AS THEIR WATER. Claiming all the resources in those waters are china's ! Attacking the vessels of those countries in their own water. look at a map and see how far china is from PH. Malaysia and Indonesia ! I going to bed now. I have already told you why Taiwan is so important. China just getting control of TMSC in Taiwan would be a disaster for the U.S. and the west. I

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Bro. I did this game already. Back in 2003 with iraq. Your obsessions with things on the other side of the planet and calling it a matter of "national security" is goofy at best. When you wake up tell me why you hate China so much.

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So you think we should appease China and say OK you can have Taiwan just no more aggression after that.

Now where have I heard that before?

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Why do you care about Taiwan?

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Because we care about the people of Taiwan. Just like we cared about the Germans, the Jews, the south Vietnamese, the south Koreans, the raped and tortured women and people of Iraq. We are not going to allow someone to destroy an ally.

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Are you an American? Do you put Americans first or other people?

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We were Americans (real Americans) when we fought the Germans. That's back when we had REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN who understood the meaning of coming to the aid of other human beings. This was before the generation of draft dodging hippies came along in the sixties, before the free loving disco boys of the seventies, before the 80's with the mommas boys of the hippies, and now these new generations of little beta males who can't decide which bathroom to use who've been programmed by those hippie children of the 60's and 70's.

To answer your question, YOU ****IN A RIGHT I'M AN AMERICAN, are you??? I care about everyone on this planet and will fight to make sure they have a fighting chance to grow up too. Thats what we do and what USED TO make us the greatest country on earth. Until the ******* showed up, but their days are numbered, because the snake will eat its own.

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Bro. Go join the UN then. Leave America out of your wars

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I'm not your ****ing bro. It's that sniveling little coward mentality that allows dictators to take over. Where do you think they go next? What if they come here? Then what? You want all our allies to say "not our problem"? You're a naive fool and thats makes you dangerous.

---

You have a very childish view of the world. Apparently you think they are cartoon bad guys trying to "get you". It's not your fault. Blame the media

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Again, you're either naive or stupid, I cant quite put my finger on it. Wake up "bro", they're really are guys in the world who want you and the rest of us dead. Hop on a plane and fly to China, ease over to Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, then run down to the African continent and see what they're doing to human beings. I've been there, serving as a missionary to help these people. Have you?

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Our anectodal travel stories are not really relevant. As an American, why do you want to do war with China to defend Taiwan? Articulate it world police man

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Can you not read? I'll put it in four words. To defend our ally.

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Finally thank you. It's a bad answer but at least you answered.

Why are you willing to do big war with China to defend Taiwan? How would that benefit America? I assume you've seen all the wars we've been bogged down in the last 20 years (costing trillions and thousands of American lives) .

You want more of that to defend Taiwan? Why?

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I thought you said I answered your question?

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The "we must defend our ally" argument is terrible. Every alliance the US is in is extremely one sided. Basically we just defend all of our "allies" and get nothing in return.

Why though? How does that benefit America?

---

We get to keep getting those cool little umbrellas on a toothpick for our drinks.

---

I'm glad to see you are running jokes instead of stating we must do war with China to defend Taiwan.

---

Do you equate an attack on Taiwan our ally, with our intervention in Iraq?

Who do you think fires the first shot in Taiwan?

---

I equate them insofar as they are two countries the US SHOULD NOT be doing war in. Obviously you remember the reason why we are in iraq. The state department and media hoax that "saddam had wmds and would attack America". Don't you learn from history?

---

So you think all the talk about China threatening our longtime ally and trading partner Taiwan is a hoax?

Do you think if we do nothing to stop China from taking over Taiwan that will end their expansionist dreams?

---

Wait. Isnt China our trading partner? Are you doing state department talking points? Will your life change if China takes Taiwan?

---

China either directly caused or allowed a bioweapon to escape from a lab in Wuhan and suppressed information allowing a worldwide panic and pandemic. The Chinese communist party has killed, it is estimated, over thirty million of its own citizens. They are currently committing genocide against an ethnic minority in their country. Mao started them down a path of a one hundred year marathon in 1949 to be the world's dominant power by 2049. It is a known fact they still adhere to that plan.

You stated earlier that you "did Iraq" and want nothing else to do with foreign interventions. I think from your responses in this thread you are a pro China troll and will never admit that the key to keeping China in check is to defend Taiwan. China has made it clear they want to be number one. You apparently want to live under China communist party rule. That is what is at stake here. There is night and day difference between defense of Taiwan and intervention in Iraq.

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You have no evidence of China "releasing" a harmless flu virus (which western governments forced closed business for). Furthermore, you have failed to articulate why we should do big war with China to defend Taiwan. I've asked a few times.

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If we declare we will defend Taiwan, China will not attack us directly. If we declare we will defend Taiwan for China to succeed they will have to invade with troops on the ground. Such an action will align the rest of the world against china(this one I am not sure about as I think Facebook, twitter and the msm are traitors to our country and will suppress and use propaganda in an attempt, similar to what you are doing, against a US response.) The second Chinese troops are on the ground in Taiwan the rest of the world is instantly aligned against China.

If, instead, we acquiesce, and allow China to take Taiwan without much trouble the only question becomes who they strike next.

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That's a war game scenario made up in your brain (I'm guessing).

My question is not what would happen. My question is why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan. If you can't answer it's ok. No one can

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This whole thread is someone's opinion and idea of a war game.

So it's your turn now. You need to speculate and lay out China's future moves, as you see it, when we do what you want, hand Taiwan over to the chi-coms on a silver platter. Try and convince me that is the best move.

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Wrong. I'm asking you a simple question which you refuse to answer. Why should the US do war with China to defend Taiwan?

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I have told you twice already and I will tell you a third time.
I think we should declare our intention to defend Taiwan. Then let China make the next move. I think China will not stop at Taiwan if we give Taiwan to China . And I think this will prevent a broader conflict in the future. If China takes Taiwan after a fight they will less likely to attempt to take territory over which they have no claim.
It is now up to you to tell us China's
future moves after we give Taiwan to China. You have to tell us why you think your way would be the best move. And your answer can't be just because.

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You are doing war game scenarios again so I'll rephrase the question since you can't or refuse to answer it. Would war with China to defend Taiwan be a good or bad thing for America and why

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I think to defend Taiwan prevents WW3. We don't have to fire a shot to do it. We only have to declare our intent to do so. Then the next move is up to China. We should in no way do a pre-emptive strike on China. If China attacks I think the rest of the west aligns against China.

You must answer now china's future moves after you gift Taiwan to them. Any refusal to answer confirms you are only a troll.

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"Prevents" is a word I see thrown around a lot to justify US worldwide aggression. What happens if China invades Taiwan? Should the US start a war with China to defend?

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Your refusal to answer what you think China's future moves after Taiwan is gifted to them and how this would be our best move confirms you are only trolling.

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Your question has been answered multiple time, and you simply do t like the answer. Our turn
Do you believe hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese could be killed by a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan?
Do you believe a ChiCom takeover of Taiwan would be an economic and strategic coup for the ChiComs? Why is that a good thing?

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As an America first American I really don't care. Why do you care? Are you doing "China boogy man cartoon bad guy scenario"?

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And you dodge the question. Classic. They're simple. Why not answer them?

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I answered your hypothetical China boogy man mass murder question.

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No you didn't. All you said is "UhAmerica first!"