*****State of MN v. Derek Chauvin Trial*****

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AggiePetro07 said:

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He's much larger. Why would they use the same amounts?
There goes the tolerance angle...
She hesitated, indicating she was rationalizing / protecting him prior to answering. "Define same amount."

That was together. He could have done more alone.
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I understand. I just couldn't take her seriously and it seemed pretty ridiculous
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Big man that lifted weights every day. Speaks to his strength, even under the influence.
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larry culpepper said:

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Really trying to get people to feel bad for them and their drug use.

I'm guessing they are laying it all out on the floor that he was indeed a drug addict to take the wind out of the sails for the defense on the subject
Absolutely what they're doing.
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They trying to show he was in good physical shape with no underlying conditions. Seems pretty convincing.
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Remember when the lesbian firefighter described Floyd as "slim and frail"?
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Actually, if he worked out enough, I think that he could have had an enlarged heart from the exercise.

Despite that, the obstructions (up to 90%) in his arteries would not have been at all good.
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Now it's going to get good!
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12th Man said:

12th Man said:

Hawg, is the reason the State has levied so many related charges against Chauvin a case of the prosecution simply hoping that something will stick? I've heard of, say, felony assault accompanying a trespassing charge, but never have I seen multiple descending murder charges accompanied by a manslaughter charge.


Sorry for the repost, but I'm keen to understand this- a little concerned that the purse fight that ensued overnight after I originally posted it may have hidden it from view.
Yes and no. In this case the Black community was clamoring for a "murder" charge. So the Hennepin County Prosecuting Attorney accommodated them. But he also had some doubts about whether the charges would hold up in court, so he added lesser included offenses which is not unusual. In fact lesser included offenses can be added even during trial, if warranted and the jury is so instructed.

But ultimately, AG Ellison took the case away from Hennepin County and added more charges.
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That prosecutor reminds me of Joe Izuzu
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78_Pacecar said:

Question for Mrs. Hawg

Not a lawyer so please forgive my ignorance. If the state calls someone to the stand and they testify what a fine upstanding individual this person was, a pillar of the community, helped old ladies across the street and rescued stray cats etc..

Does that then provide an opening for the defense to bring in past decisions that the state does not want discussed, such as criminal background, interaction with law enforcement, not taking care of children made, and being an overall oxygen thief?

It should
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Here come the prior inconsistent statements. She has reviewed the transcripts.
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I think there was a flub in the testimony. I think she said he started his opioid addiction for his back, and she started for her neck.

Just a few minutes ago the state asked if Floyd had any injuries, other than what she stated previously his neck and shoulders, and she said no just his neck and shoulders.

Did I hear that incorrectly?
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78_Pacecar said:

Question for Mrs. Hawg

Not a lawyer so please forgive my ignorance. If the state calls someone to the stand and they testify what a fine upstanding individual this person was, a pillar of the community, helped old ladies across the street and rescued stray cats etc..

Does that then provide an opening for the defense to bring in past decisions that the state does not want discussed, such as criminal background, interaction with law enforcement, not taking care of children made, and being an overall oxygen thief?
That depends on what the past bad act involves. The question of admissibility is whether the probative value outweighs the prejudicial effect.
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she has resting ***** face look now.
NASAg03
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His dealer was with him in the red hat and pants when he got arrested!
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NASAg03 said:

His dealer was with him in the red hat and pants when he got arrested!
The self described "entrepreneur" Maurice Hall.
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NASAg03 said:

His dealer was with him in the red hat and pants when he got arrested!

I wonder why hiding the photo then
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aggiehawg said:

NASAg03 said:

His dealer was with him in the red hat and pants when he got arrested!
The self described "entrepreneur" Maurice Hall.

I called it- drug dealer
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NASAg03
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Dang this is damning. He OD'd in march. Prosecution objection overruled. OD's on heroin they said?
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March 2020 Floyd's hospital stay. She went to pick him up for work and he was doubled over in pain in his stomach. Later learned Floyd had overdosed.
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He went to the hospital twice in March. Once because he cut his hand on glass.

The other.....he went to the ER because he overdosed on heroin! Prosecution objects and Cahill overrules.
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Heroin overdose in March 2020.
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Pain in the stomach from the previous od compared to him saying his stomach hurts while being restrained holy shyt
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Pain reliever effect usually but those pills were different and she felt jittery like a stimulant. Speedballing.
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Readzilla said:

Pain in the stomach from the previous od compared to him saying his stomach hurts while being restrained holy shyt
Yes. Big point for the defense.
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What's the sidebar for? Something about the wrong way to cross-examine?
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This witness was never deposed by defense?
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Sidebar.
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This lady was his GF?
Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
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yes
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