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This witness has been on the stand for like 2 hours and I don't think we've learned anything relevant to the charges.

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Establishes
Floyd was already high
Floyd committed a crime warranting police intervention

waitwhat? said:

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This witness has been on the stand for like 2 hours and I don't think we've learned anything relevant to the charges.

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It was a legit bust which goes against the felony murder rules in one respect. State has tried to craft an aggravated assault as the felony to which the rule applies but again police are able to put their hands on people during a legit arrest.

Martin is excused.

I can't see how that witness benefitted the state.

Christopher Belfrey (sp) is next witness.

take the mask off you idiot

UncleNateFitch said:

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waitwhat? said:

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This witness has been on the stand for like 2 hours and I don't think we've learned anything relevant to the charges.

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Establishes
Floyd was already high
Floyd committed a crime warranting police intervention

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But weren't these already established?

This guy is a moron.

This is starting out well. Witness starting off testy

45 years old in south Minneapolis lived there about three years. Familiar with Cup Foods and a restaurant on Chicago and 38th.

waitwhat? said:

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This is starting out well. Witness starting off testy

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with the state no less.

UncleNateFitch said:

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waitwhat? said:

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This witness has been on the stand for like 2 hours and I don't think we've learned anything relevant to the charges.

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Establishes
Floyd was already high
Floyd committed a crime warranting police intervention

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Also establishes that Martin tried to give George a chance to make it right twice. And I dont believe Floyd was just sitting there shaking his head and throwing his hands up, not involved in the conversation. Im sure he was acting just like he was when the cops showed up. Being overly dramatic and saying that he didnt do nothing.

Saw the cops approaching the vehicle. Saw the officer pulled his gun. It startled him so he started recording.

His video is Exhibit 35. Filmed from inside his car.

The cops are clearly struggling with Floyd besides the car.

Video appeared to show Floyd being combative and not cooperating.

Belfrey backed up and then pulled a U to park on the opposite side next to Cup Foods and his GF was inside Cup Foods and came out with their food and joined him in the car and he restarted filming.

He stopped recording because he saw the officers looking at him and he didn't want any trouble.

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Someone post feed please

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Posted to have link on end of thread

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MEENAGGIE09 said:

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Corn Pop said:

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Someone post feed please

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Hawg, can you put this in your OP for people

Did defense request a sidebar just now?

ETA: defense didn't want to X. Seems like they could've opened the door to floyd being uncooperative with the police.

Breaking for lunch, resuming at 1:15pm CT

Dumb_Loggy said:

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Did defense request a sidebar just now?

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Yes. Cahill declares a lunch break will reconvene at 1;15.

I don't have many takeaways from this most recent witness. Nothing damaging to the defense. If anything, it showed the beginnings of Floyd not complying with officers.

I think the store clerk was an attempt to control the bad facts. Seems like it would be easier to deal with the crime of counterfeit money as the state than letting the defense introduce the witness.

I was talking about the older male that they just interviewed.

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I think the store clerk was an attempt to control the bad facts. Seems like it would be easier to deal with the crime of counterfeit money as the state than letting the defense introduce the witness.

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Agree. If state didn't call the store clerk, defense would have.

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I don't have many takeaways from this most recent witness. Nothing damaging to the defense. If anything, it showed the beginnings of Floyd not complying with officers.

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I'm not sure why state called him other than the defense would if they didn't. He did have a good view of Floyd struggling with two officers with Kueng having to change his stance, legs wider apart, to push from behind to control Floyd and get the cuffs on.

It is hard to listen to the CourtTv commentary during the break. They are about as bad as CNN.

Hawg, do you see any way that from here on out the state being able to bring in "stronger" testimonies for their side?

Other than the obvious emotional impacts on a few first-hand witnesses, I don't see any of these being factual benefits towards the state. Seems like from here on out everything is going to benefit the defense.

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Hawg, do you see any way that from here on out the state being able to bring in "stronger" testimonies for their side?

Other than the obvious emotional impacts on a few first-hand witnesses, I don't see any of these being factual benefits towards the state. Seems like from here on out everything is going to benefit the defense.

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I can't pretend to know what the overall prosecution strategy is. Assuming they are just about out video that was recorded we should see some police testimony, ME testimony, expert testimony on a variety of subjects and then wrap up with Floyd family members before resting their case in chief to tug on the emotions of the jury.

Just my hunch.

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Good Poster said:

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I don't have many takeaways from this most recent witness. Nothing damaging to the defense. If anything, it showed the beginnings of Floyd not complying with officers.

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I'm not sure why state called him other than the defense would if they didn't. He did have a good view of Floyd struggling with two officers with Kueng having to change his stance, legs wider apart, to push from behind to control Floyd and get the cuffs on.

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Just needed it to get the video authenticated. I'm sure the state's expert reviewed it and has some theory of how it showed the build up of tension between Floyd and MPD, which culminated in Chavin deciding that he was going to murder Floyd.

By the way, that's hard to even write. But somehow people believe it is true.

My concern as I watch the commentary - the prosecution is putting on an emotional case, where the Defendant has been over-charged b/c public pressure requires it. They know they cannot prove the case (at least not in a vacuum), so they are putting this one on the jury. They will be able to say, "look, we put forth the horrific facts of this case and the jury ignored us." That allows the politicians to say they tried. It's going to be blamed on the jury if they lose - and the jurors likely know this.

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It is hard to listen to the CourtTv commentary during the break. They are about as bad as CNN.

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I agree.

Monday I thought it was really good. Yesterday afternoon and all today it has been very slanted.

Aggie Jurist said:

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My concern as I watch the commentary - the prosecution is putting on an emotional case, where the Defendant has been over-charged b/c public pressure requires it. They know they cannot prove the case (at least not in a vacuum), so they are putting this one on the jury. They will be able to say, "look, we put forth the horrific facts of this case and the jury ignored us." That allows the politicians to say they tried. It's going to be blamed on the jury if they lose - and the jurors likely know this.

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The white jurors will be in danger when this is over.